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Community talk:Grief Syndrome

2011-08-21T16:36:31Z

128.54.205.243: /* Problem here */

This game just taught me something: I'd be a terrible magical girl. That's good to know, at least now I know I shouldn't contract Kyubey if I ever get the chance to... --[[User:Homerun-chan|Homerun-chan]] 16:20, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
:Oh god, the endings for this game make me feel terribly empty inside. It's like how I felt after episode 6 and onwards. Mami, the only one surviving, eating cake alone. Kyouko by herself, chewing an apple. Dammit. At least I felt happy when I killed Charlotte with Mami. Sayaka in the show did much better than me on the hikki TV level. [[User:Holycrap|Holycrap]] 09:14, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Anyone know what the requirement is for getting the 2nd last picture in the gallery? [[Special:Contributions/220.255.1.48|220.255.1.48]] 02:49, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
:If only Madoka and Sayaka die. [[User:Lig0schndr|Lig0schndr]] 11:30, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

==Problem here==
I've downloaded the files and everything. However, it is on a .rar file, and I really don't know how it operates. Suggestions?
:It's a compressed file, works just like a .zip. Open it with WinRAR or a similar program. --[[User:BrickBreak|BrickBreak]] 03:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
::I don't have WinRAR on my Windows 7. Do you know of an alternative instead? I am sorry if I am acting as a noob. :(
:::Get WinRAR or 7zip. You'll need it to unzip it. Nothing else but to get the program. [[Special:Contributions/128.54.205.243|128.54.205.243]] 16:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

== Stat box ==

Can one of our wikicode magicians make a stat box for the mahou shoujo sections? - [[User:Prima|Prima]] 21:58, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
:Shamelessly copypasting the infobox for characters, I suggest you one of the two variants below. I personally perfer the first (vertical) one. --[[User:Homerun-chan|Homerun-chan]] 16:36, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
::I actually thinks the second version look better. Also, it's shorter length means less blank toolbox only space on the thread. Can we get another opinion on this one? - [[User:Prima|Prima]] 20:48, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
:::Actually, the only thing that bugs me with the horizontal version is that I don't know how to label the columns, especially the last one ... "Growth per level" is a bit too long, "Per level", "growth per lvl" or "growth/level" don't look or sound to good... --[[User:Homerun-chan|Homerun-chan]] 21:31, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
::::I think per level looks fine, it's similar to how we do in [http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Marine another wiki] that I help out on. - [[User:Prima|Prima]] 06:46, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
:::::I added the info boxes. They look pretty awesome. Thanks for providing the template, Homerun-chan.[[User:Lig0schndr|Lig0schndr]] 23:45, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
<table class="infobox" style="width:22em;text-align:left;margin:0.5em 0 0.5em 1em; padding: 0.2em; border:solid #aaa 1px;float:left;clear:left;">
<th colspan="2" style="text-align:center;background-color:#CCF;font-size: 120%;font-weight:bold;">
Madoka
</th>
<tr><td colspan="2" style="text-align: center;">[[File:Gsmadokaidle.gif]]</td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" style="background-color: #EEF; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">Status base</td></tr>
{{Infobox/row
|label=Vitality
|labelstyle=background-color:#EEF; font-weight:bold;
|data=92
}}{{Infobox/row
|label=Power
|labelstyle=background-color:#EEF; font-weight:bold;
|data=10
}}{{Infobox/row
|label=Soul limit
|labelstyle=background-color:#EEF; font-weight:bold;
|data=28875
}}{{Infobox/row
|label=SL lost in revive
|labelstyle=background-color:#EEF; font-weight:bold;
|data=9.6%
}}<tr><td colspan="2" style="background-color: #EEF; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">Growth per level</td></tr>
{{Infobox/row
|label=Vitality
|labelstyle=background-color:#EEF; font-weight:bold;
|data=+4
}}{{Infobox/row
|label=Power
|labelstyle=background-color:#EEF; font-weight:bold;
|data=+1
}}{{Infobox/row
|label=Soul limit
|labelstyle=background-color:#EEF; font-weight:bold;
|data=+128
}}</table>

<table class="infobox" style="width:22em;text-align:left;margin:0.5em 0 0.5em 1em; padding: 0.2em; border:solid #aaa 1px;float:left;clear:left;">
<th colspan="3" style="text-align:center;background-color:#CCF;font-size: 120%;font-weight:bold;">
Madoka
</th>
<tr><td colspan="3" style="text-align: center;">[[File:Gsmadokaidle.gif]]</td></tr>
<tr><td style="background-color: #EEF; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">Parameter</td><td style="background-color: #EEF; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">Status base</td><td style="background-color: #EEF; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">Per level</td></tr>
<tr><td style="text-align:left;background-color:#EEF; font-weight:bold;}">Vitality</td><td style="text-align:left;">92</td style="text-align: left;"><td>+4</td>
<tr><td style="text-align:left;background-color:#EEF; font-weight:bold;}">Power</td><td style="text-align:left;">10</td style="text-align: left;"><td>+1</td>
<tr><td style="text-align:left;background-color:#EEF; font-weight:bold;}">Soul limit</td><td style="text-align:left;">28875</td style="text-align: left;"><td>+128</td>
<tr><td style="text-align:left;background-color:#EEF; font-weight:bold;}">SL lost in revive</td><td style="text-align:left;">9.6%</td style="text-align: left;"><td></td></tr></table>

{{-}}

==help!==

i tried to download it but i can't find where on the page the download thingy is, i clicked on everything and no dice [[User:Paige|Paige]] 15:01, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

:Check the latest thread here http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Threads#Grief_Syndrome
:i can't make sense of that site either, no handy screen shots or can't you download it on the grief syndrome site? am i the only person having problems with it? *sigh* [[User:Paige|Paige]] 20:27, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
::You can't figure out how to download it from here? http://archive.easymodo.net/a/thread/53407713 --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 20:35, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
::>can't you download it on the grief syndrome site?<br>It's a game that got released (read "sold") at Comiket, so it's not really meant to be distributed for free. You should be able to find it if you know where to look or how to use Google though (or easymodo for that matter). --[[User:Homerun-chan|Homerun-chan]] 20:41, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

==Moemura?!==
[[File:Moemura grief syndrome.jpg|right|300px]]
Anyone know how to get her? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 04:52, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
:It's a drawing from 2ch, it's not real. --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 05:59, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
::Being a fan is suffering --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 06:39, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

== All endings ==

So as I see, someone aded thelast unknown trophy.
What are the endings known this far and how can they be obtained?
[[Special:Contributions/91.202.255.7|91.202.255.7]] 05:52, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

:I added an endings section to the main page that includes known endings and conditions. This doesn't seem to be all of them, though, since I believe I've gotten all mentioned and haven't yet gotten the trophy. Anyone know of other endings? [[User:Lig0schndr|Lig0schndr]] 11:27, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

So I decided to map out which ending haven't been confirmed yet:<br>
groups of 3<br>
*madoka homura sayaka
*madoka homura kyouko
*madoka sayaka kyouko
*madoka sayaka mami
*madoka kyouko mami
*homura sayaka kyouko
*homura sayaka mami
*sayaka kyouko mami
<br>
All the 1 person surviving and 4 people surviving endings have been confirmed except for only Madoka surviving, but I feel like odds are good that that will end up with the default Homura ending. If anyone else could check some of these out, too, that'd be great.
[[User:Lig0schndr|Lig0schndr]] 15:48, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
:Only Madoka surviving is confirmed to give you the Homura waking up in bed ending. (Oktavia not killed, but I don't think that matters).[[User:KM|KM]] 23:57, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks for checking that. I don't think it matters if Oktavia is killed or not, either, as long as you get Oktavia because Sayaka died.[[User:Lig0schndr|Lig0schndr]] 06:42, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

== Laps not saved ==

Well, I completed the first lap, and utterly failed on the second (was trying to go with Mami, let everyone else die, didn't farmed enough lv's to make up for her crappyness). Back to the main menu, still with the stats and the choice of which lap to with. I close the game, and open it again just to be sure. Everything's gone. Wasn't it supposed to save after a lap? --[[User:BrickBreak|BrickBreak]] 21:16, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
:Look for a save0.dat file in the griefsyndrome/save folder, and see if it has the right modified date and read/write permission.[[User:KM|KM]] 21:55, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
::The folder's empty. Damn... I'm guessing either it auto-deleted upon closure, or it was never created :/ --[[User:BrickBreak|BrickBreak]] 23:13, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
:::Apparently, it can only save if it's on the default folder. I reinstalled there and it worked. --[[User:BrickBreak|BrickBreak]] 01:20, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
::Mine's in a non-default folder, and it's got up to 677 available. [[User:Magic9mushroom|Magic9mushroom]] 10:22, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
::::When it wasn't saving, was it outside the default because of being moved after installing, or was it installed in that same non-default folder?[[User:KM|KM]] 18:21, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
:::::Installed outside (in the Program Files folder). --[[User:BrickBreak|BrickBreak]] 20:48, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

== Not-Mentioned Bug ==

I've encountered a bug that was not mentioned in the FAQ, so I decided to post it here. The bug makes the fore- and background of the stages (so far only tested on Gertrud Stage) entirely white, the characters and enemies however are correctly displayed. It also causes the game to crash when moving to Gertruds boss room. Does anyone know how to fix this? My PC is on Japanese Locale and my Directx is enough up to date (Dx11). (Also This is my first time editing a wiki,I'm sorry for any errors.) [[User:Anton|Anton]] 09:48, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I noticed another glitch, though this one isn't that big of a deal. If you're in a boss fight and you pause and return to the title screen, the boss' HP meter stays on the screen. This persists until you restart the game or you get to another boss fight. [[User:Lig0schndr|Lig0schndr]] 11:18, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Another glitch I found is that if you change any settings using the config.exe, the Esc key, usually only mapped to the menu key, will also be mapped to the player 1 strong attack key. I don't know if this can be fixed, but you can change it back by deleting the config.dat file and copying an original keyconfig.dat file back into the folder. [[User:Lig0schndr|Lig0schndr]] 11:40, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

== Highest solo clocking? ==

I know that 677's been beaten with Homura/Madoka/Mami, but what's the highest known to have been beaten with just 1 player? [[User:Magic9mushroom|Magic9mushroom]] 10:22, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
:The highest I've seen is a guy on nicovideo soloing lap 100 with Sayaka. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15316097 Is there a video of the guys beating lap 677? [[User:Lig0schndr|Lig0schndr]] 08:16, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
::I've seen vids of Gertrud and Charlotte beaten with Homura/Madoka/Mami on 677. That guy lucked out on Kirsten, though. [[User:Magic9mushroom|Magic9mushroom]] 10:05, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
:::I've just beaten lap 458 330 with homura... and a truckload of cheating, does that count?-Gniarf
::::Woah my god high lap. How do you cheat at this game? [[User:Lig0schndr|Lig0schndr]] 15:20, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Kriemhild Gretchen

2011-05-22T07:39:37Z

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__NOTOC__
'''Kriemhild Gretchen''' ({{Runes|KRIEMHILD•GRETCHEN}}) is the [[witch]] form of [[Madoka Kaname]]. She appears in second and fourth timelines of [[Episode 10]]; a witch form of Madoka (whether she can be considered Kriemhild is up for debate) also appears in [[episode 12]].

In the second timeline, her formation involves thunderclouds coalescing initially into a giant humanoid and then she seems to form a mountain-like being.

In the fourth timeline, she is shown as a giant creature, actually the size of a mountain. Her name was not shown at all during initial broadcast, but was added in the fourth timeline in a webcast version one week later. According to [[Kyubey]], strength of this incarnation of hers is of such a magnitude that she could obliterate the planet within ten days.

Her appearance in both timelines is essentially identical (if one looks closely at her fourth timeline appearance, they will see the head at the top of the shadow between the outstretched arms), though in the second timeline only her head was really shown at all, with the body still forming.

In episode 12, Madoka's all-powerful witch form, who may or may not be considered another form of Kriemhild Gretchen, appears at the end of the universe, born from all the grief Madoka has shouldered due to her supremely hopeful wish. She inhabits a comet-sized grief seed and, unlike the second and fourth timelines' versions of Kriemhild, has a fully-shown face (although the left half is either blank or covered in shadow); her head is sun disc-shaped, her open mouth resembles the moon, and her right eye resembles the earth. She is slain by the "goddess" form of Madoka before she can consume the earth.

{{Card
|name=Kriemhild Gretchen
|runes = KRIEMHILD•GRETCHEN
|image = File:Card_Kriemhild.png
|japanese_desc = 救済の魔女。その性質は慈悲。この星の全ての生命を強制的に吸い上げ彼女の作った新しい天国（結界）へと導いていく。この魔女を倒したくば世界中の不幸を取り除く以外に方法は無い。もし世界中から悲しみがなくなれば魔女はここが天国であると錯覚するだろう。
|english_desc = Witch of salvation. Her nature is mercy. She absorbs any life on the planet into her newly created heaven--her barrier. The only way to defeat this witch is to make the world free of misfortune. If there's no grief in this world, she will believe this world is already a heaven.
|type = Witch of salvation
|nature = Mercy
|episodes = [[Episode 10]]
}}

==Observations and speculation==
* In [[Wikipedia:Goethe's_Faust|Goethe's]] ''[[Speculah:Madoka_Magica_and_Faust|Faust]]'', Gretchen, also known as Margarete, was the name of Faust's lover. She dies at the end of Part 1 of ''Faust'', but returns at the end of Part 2 as a Pentinent in heaven. She is allowed to lead Faust's soul into heaven's higher spheres.
**Some studies suggest that Faust refers to the girl as Margarete (meaning ''pearl'') at the beginning because of her purity and innocence, and changes to the diminutive Gretchen after their intercourse, to point out her spoiled purity. In the same way, the fact that this witch is named Gretchen, rather than Margarete, could represent the corruption of Madoka's soul.
* [[Wikipedia: Gudrun|Kriemhild]], also known as Gudrun, is a figure from Norse Mythology. She is an important character in the epic poem ''[[Wikipedia: Nibelungenlied|Nibelungenlied]]''. Note also that [http://www.behindthename.com/name/kriemhild Kriemhild comes from the German words] for [[Speculah:Ending_Analysis|"mask"]] and "battle".
* Some have come to believe that the mask shown at the end of the ending credits is actually Kriemhild's face, considering "Kriemhild"'s meaning of "battle mask".
* Kriemhild Gretchen's appearance as a giant shadow may be based off the phenomenon known as a [[Wikipedia: Brocken_spectre|Brocken spectre]]. In both German folklore and Goethe's ''Faust'', [[Wikipedia: Walpurgis_Night|Walpurgis Night]] occurred on the [[Wikipedia: Brocken|Brocken]], a mountain peak in Germany. The conditions on the Brocken often cause Brocken spectres, which are magnified shadows of climbers being projected onto mist or clouds. Kriemhild Gretchen appears after the witch known as [[Speculah: Walpurgis Night|Walpurgis Night]] is defeated. If this is true, it's also possible that Kriemhild is not as large as she appears.
* In Episode 1, shortly after the runic text reading "Prologue in Heaven", we see the upside-down form of a giant shadow above Walpurgis Night's spell circle (the symbols seen behind Walpurgis Night). Based off her appearance and her desire to create "heaven", it can only be concluded that this shadow is Kriemhild Gretchen.
* Kriemhild can only be defeated if the world is rid of all misfortune within the ten days it will take for her to destroy it. This could mean that the only feasible way of defeating her is by having a girl become a Puella Magi with the wish to rid the world of misfortune (or, alternately, to just kill Kriemhild outright -- which would probably make the new Puella Magi a witch even more powerful than Kriemhild herself).
* It's probable that when Kyubey says Kriemhild will "destroy the planet" he simply means that Kriemhild's barrier will grow to encompass it or that she will wipe out all life on it in favor of her dream world barrier. In the event the latter were the case, Kriemheld could be likened to the biblical Apocalypse. All sinners (misfortune) are destroyed before paradise itself (the witch's barrier) settles on Earth for those still alive.
* {{spoiler|In [[Episode 12]], Madoka, upon absorbing all the grief of fellow Puellae Magi, transforms into an "ultimate witch" (see picture below). The name of this witch is not known and her appearance is also substantially different - however, her actions correspond well to the description on this card - she was born from all the grief of the world, and is defeated by rewriting the rules of the universe.}}

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Madoka-grief-seed.png|Madoka/Kriemhild's grief seed.
File:Madoka-witch-first.jpg|Madoka's witch transformation in the second timeline.
File:Kaname witch form power.jpg|Madoka's witch form.
File:Ep10 Kriemhild Name.png|Kriemhild Gretchen as seen just before Homura resets in the fourth timeline in the [http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1300174500 Nicovideo Channel] broadcast.
File:Madoka the Ultimate Witch.jpg|A closeup of the face of the ultimate witch form of Madoka born as a result of her wish in the story timeline.
</gallery>

==External links==
*{{card_link|id=27}}

[[Category:Witches]]

Glossary

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__NOTOC__

===Barrier===
{{Glossary
|term = {{Nihongo|Barrier|結界|Kekkai}}
|description = An otherworld used by [[Witch]]es to conceal themselves. Should a normal human wander in by accident, it is impossible for them to escape.
|image = File:Witch ep2 entering.jpg
|image_desc = Madoka and friends entering [[Gertrud's maze|Gertrud's barrier]].
}}

In the anime, these locations are designed and animated by [[Gekidan Inu Curry]] in a style vastly different from that of the rest of the series in order to reinforce the otherworldly aspect. Outside of the anime they are often referred to as "Mazes."

===Familiar===
{{Glossary
|term = {{Nihongo|Familiar|使い魔|Tsukaima}}
|description = Lesser monsters divided out of the essence of a [[Witch]]. Though normally assigned the task of maintaining and defending their parent-witch's [[barrier]], it seems that they can eventually gain independence and stray to form their own barriers. Further growing, they take on the form of their parent.
|image = File:Ulla_screen.png
|image_desc = [[Ulla]], [[Suleika]]'s familiar in her own [[barrier]].
}}


===Grief Seed===
{{Glossary|
|term = {{Nihongo|Grief Seed|グリーフシード}}
|description = A [[Witch]]'s egg, which occasionally appears after a Witch is defeated. Puella Magi require these items to restore their depleted magical energies.
|image = File:Grief seed.png
|image_desc = [[Gertrud]]'s Grief Seed.
}}


For more information, see: [[Speculah:Grief Seeds]].

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===Puella Magi===
{{Glossary
|term = {{Nihongo|Puella Magi|魔法少女|Mahō shōjo|lit. Magical Girl}}
|description = Girls who have formed a contract with [[Kyuubey]], and in exchange gained the power of magic. Beings charged with the task of combating [[Witch]]es.
|image =
|image_desc =
}}


===Soul Gem===
{{Glossary
|term = {{Nihongo|Soul Gem|ソウルジェム}}
|description = A gem birthed from a contract with [[Kyuubey]]. Proof that one is a Puella Magi; the source of her magical power.<br>
|image = File:Soul gem.png
|image_desc = [[Mami Tomoe|Mami]]'s Soul gem
}}

[[Episode 6]] reveals {{Spoiler|that Soul Gems contain the magical girl's soul, while the body is merely a husk that is controlled by the Gem.}}
[[Episode 8]] reveals {{Spoiler|if the Soul Gem is not cleansed in time and reaches a certain point it will become a Grief Seed and birth a new witch.}}

===Walpurgis Night===
{{Glossary
|term = {{Nihongo|Walpurgis Night|ワルプルギスの夜}}
|description = A gargantuan witch impossible for a single magical girl to handle on her own.<br>
|image =
|image_desc =
}}

For more information, see: [[Speculah:Walpurgis Night]]

===Witch===
{{Glossary
|term = {{Nihongo|Witch|魔女|Majo}}
|description = The negative impulse that is called anxiety or suspicion, or excessive wrath or hatred = beings that spread the seeds of disaster across the world. Normally, they conceal themselves behind [[#Barrier|barriers]].<br>
|image =
|image_desc =
}}

[[Episode 8]] reveals {{Spoiler|that Witches are in fact the "grown" forms of Puella Magi, as 魔女, Majo, are evolved forms of 魔法少女, Mahou Shoujo.}}

===Witch's Kiss===
{{Glossary
|term = {{Nihongo|Witch's Kiss|魔女の口づけ|Majo no kuchizuke}}
|description = A mark that appears on a human targeted by a [[Witch]].
|image = File:Witch's kiss.png
|image_desc = [[Gertrud|Gertrud's]] Witch's kiss on a victim's body
}}


==External links==
*[http://www.madoka-magica.com/special/keyword/junko.html Glossary page on the official website]

Albertine

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__NOTOC__
'''Albertine''' ({{Runes|ALBERTINE}}) is a [[Witch|witch]] that has not so far made an appearance in an episode. Her [[Familiar|familiar]] Anja makes a brief appearance at the end of [[Episode 5]].

{{Card
|name = Albertine
|runes = ALBERTINE
|image = File:Card Albertine.png
|japanese_desc = 落書きの魔女。（未登場）その性質は無知。かくれんぼが大好き。けれど彼女の手下達はあまり賢くないため誰も彼女のことを探してくれない。
|english_desc = The scribbling witch (has not debuted), with an ignorant nature. She loves Hide and Seek. However, because none of her minions are very intelligent, none of them seeks her out.
|type = Scribbling witch
|nature = Ignorance
|episodes = None
}}

== Minions ==
{{Card
|name = Anja
|runes = ANJA
|image = File:Card Anja.png
|japanese_desc = 落書きの魔女の手下。その役割は童心。ひとり遊びに夢中になっているうち魔女とはぐれてしまった迷子の手下。人間をボールに変えてしまう力を使い、ボールに変えられた人間は今までについた嘘の数だけ地面を跳ねなくてはもとの姿に戻ることが出来ない。
|english_desc = The scribbling witch's minion, whose duty is to be naïve. She is a lost familiar who was separated from the witch while playing alone, absorbed in her daydreams. She possesses the ability to transform humans into balls; a human who has been transformed into a ball cannot revert to human form until he bounces against the ground once for each lie that he has ever uttered.
|type = Scribbling witch's minion
|task = Being naïve
|episodes = [[Episode 5]]
}}

==Gallery==

<gallery captionalign="left" position="center">
File:Ep5 familiar.jpg|Anja's vehicle transforms from a plane to a boat to a car
File:Anja_manga_version.jpg|Anja in manga
</gallery>

==External links==
*{{card_link|id=10}}
*{{card_link|id=11|name=Anja}}

[[Category:Witches]]

Oktavia von Seckendorff

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__NOTOC__
'''Oktavia von Seckendorff''' ({{Runes|OKTAVIA VON SECKENDORFF|variant=musical}}) is the [[witch]] form of [[Sayaka Miki]]. She briefly appears at the end of [[Episode 8]] and battles with [[Kyouko Sakura]] in [[Episode 9]]. Her Labyrinth is filled with calls for attention -- probably to [[Kyousuke Kamijou]]. Initially, the outer areas of her Labyrinth are filled with train tracks, perhaps a reflection of the train station where she became a witch. Later on, the entrance area becomes a long corridor filled with concert posters. The center of the Labyrinth appears to be a distorted concert hall, where the seats fill the domed ceiling. Her weapons appear to be manifested wheels, and the concert hall is populated with a spectral string orchestra.

{{Card
|name = Oktavia
|runes = OKTAVIA
|runes_variant = musical
|image = File:Card_Oktavia.png
|japanese_desc = 人魚の魔女。その性質は恋慕。在りし日の感動を夢見ながらコンサートホールごと移動する魔女。回る運命は思い出だけを乗せてもう未来へは転がらない。もう何も届かない。もう何も知ることなどない。今はただ手下達の演奏を邪魔する存在を許さない。
|english_desc = The mermaid witch; it is in her nature to fall in love. Looking for the feeling that moved her so long ago, she moves with the entire concert hall. Her fortune only turns under the weight of memories and no longer moves toward the future. Nothing will reach her any longer. She will come to know nothing more. She simply allows no one to disturb her minions' playing.
|type = Mermaid witch
|nature = Falling in love
|episodes = [[Episode 8]], [[Episode 9]]
}}

{{Card
|name = Oktavia
|runes = OKTAVIA
|runes_variant = musical
|image = File:Card_Oktavia_2.png
|japanese_desc = 人魚の魔女。その性質は恋慕。ギターが鳴り響くコンサートホールの中で在りし日の感動を夢見続ける魔女。繰り返す時間の中で僅かな違いこそあれど、運命の車輪は冷徹に回る。
|english_desc = The mermaid witch. Her nature is to fall in love. The witch continues to dream of a guitar resounding in the middle of a concert hall, a deeply moving impression from past days. Repeating within that time with little but sure differences, her wheels of fate move around calmly.
|type = Mermaid witch
|nature = Falling in love
|episodes = [[Episode 10]]
}}

== Minions ==
{{Card
|name = Holger
|runes = HOLGER
|runes_variant = musical
|image = File:Card_Holger.png
|japanese_desc = 人魚の魔女の手下。その役割は演奏。魔女のために音楽を奏で続ける虚ろな楽団。その音を長く聞き続けた者は魂を抜き取られてしまう。この楽団は魔女のためだけに存在し、魔女には楽団が全て。
|english_desc = The mermaid witch's minion, whose duty is to perform. Several of them form a hollow orchestra that continually plays music for the witch. People who listen to their music for long enough will lose their soul. This orchestra only exists for its witch; to her, the orchestra is everything.
|type = Mermaid witch's minion
|task = Performing
|episodes = [[Episode 8]], [[Episode 9]]
}}

{{Card
|name = Klarissa
|runes = KLARISSA
|image = File:Card_Klarissa.png
|japanese_desc = 人魚の魔女の手下。その役割はバックダンサー。魔女の後ろで陽気に踊り続けるだけの存在。
|english_desc = The mermaid witch's minion, whose duty is a backup dancer. She only exist to dance cheerfully behind the witch.
|type = Mermaid witch's minion
|task = Backup dancer
|episodes = [[Episode 10]]
}}

==Observations and Facts==
*Sayaka's witch name is Oktavia von Seckendorff. Karl Siegmund von Seckendorff was a german poet who wrote a book called "The Wheel of Fate" (Das Rad des Schicksals), and could explain Sayaka's wheel attack.
*Seckendorff was also the name of a Frankish knight from a noble family.
*Oktavia is the German form of the latin name ''Octavia'' which means "the eigth" (child, month or musical interval) or "from the family Octavia". It is the direct root of [[Wikipedia:Octave|octave]] in English (an octave being the eight interval of a scale). The name was most likely chosen because of the link between Sayaka and music.
*Holger is a Scandinavian masculine given name derived from the Old Norse name ''Hólmgeirr'', the prefix ''hólmr'' meaning "island", and the suffix ''geirr'' meaning "spear". It is most common amongst Danish people. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holger_%28given_name%29]
*''‘Herr Holger’'' is an old Swedish song [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjmq6KI0D_o] performed by the dark folk band [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garmarna Garmarna]. Its central character, Sir Holger, gets beheaded for his crimes and buried, but then turns undead and goes back to his wife to warn her against going to Hell. Yet the lady won't listen to the warning: ''‘Go to Hell with your squires, … And I will follow with my maidens’''.
*The specific runic font used for Oktavia and Holger's cards resembles musical instruments and notation.
*One of the alternate timelines shown in episode 10 gives her barrier a slightly different appearance with familiars that resemble [[Hitomi]].

== Speculations ==
*The runic font doesn't seem to exist in the "real world". Ergo, the strange posters that bear runic text in [[Episode 8]] may have been a "telltale sign" of the beginning of Sayaka's Labyrinth manifestation.
*The pink ribbon is a sign of attraction, since Madoka's mother mentioned in ep 1 that wearing a pink ribbon would attract attention.
**It may though just be a transformed ribbon of Sayaka's school uniform.
*Similarities with the myth of Orion:
**"Orion was the son of the sea-god Poseidon" - the reason for Sayaka's (Octavia's) half-fish form.
**"Odysseus sees him hunting in the underworld with a bronze club" - first time we've seen Sayaka in a barrier (underworld), she carried a golden (bronze) bat.
**"he hunted with the goddess Artemis and her mother Leto" - she hunted with Mami and Madoka.
**"threatened to kill every beast on Earth" - kill every witch on Earth.
**"Mother Earth objected and sent a giant scorpion to kill Orion" - Kyouko appears, Kyouko's spear could refer to the scorpions spear (tail).
**"The creature succeeded, and after his death, the goddesses asked Zeus to place Orion among the constellations. Zeus consented and, as a memorial to the hero's death, added the Scorpion to the heavens as well" - After they died Sayaka's grief seed and Kyouko's Soul Gem turned into raw energy used to fuel the universe (as explained by Kyuubey in episode 9 ) they literally among the stars now.
*The witch's mermaid tail may be a reference to both Hans Christian Andersen's [[wikipedia:The_Little_Mermaid|The Little Mermaid]] and the story of [[wikipedia:Melusine|Melusine]]. Goethe wrote a version of Melusine titled Die Neue Melusine or [http://books.google.com/books?id=J8Pb0oeVAaIC&pg=PA347&dq=the+new+melusina&hl=en&ei=u09zTc3mA4K4twfAyv35Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=the%20new%20melusina&f=false The New Melusina].

*The wheels used in Oktavia's attack may also symbolize the Wheel of Fortune from tarot, whose popular interpretations include "possibilities, opportunities, new developments, sudden changes", which fit Sayaka's life from when she encountered Kyubey to when she became a Witch.

*The structure of the final room may be a reflection of Miki Sayaka's subconscious.
*The shade which resembles Kyousuke is hidden under the crowded concert hall, suggesting that Sayaka does not want to admit her ambitions of owning Kyousuke's love.

== Gallery ==
<gallery>
File:WitchSayaka-screenshots.jpg
File:Sayaka_witch.PNG
File:Sayaka_witch4.PNG
File:Oktavia-ep10.JPG|Oktavia in [[Episode 10]].
File:Ep9_poster_runes.jpg

File:SayakaWitch wants attention.jpg|The subtle messages show her eagerness for attention.
File:Kyousuke labyrinth p.jpg|A violinist that resembles Kyousuke.
File:Melusine information.jpg|Information regarding the Melusine
File:Oktavia_Hitomi_like_minions.jpg|Oktavia's familiars, which resemble Hitomi, in an alternate timeline
</gallery>

== External Links ==
*{{card_link|id=19}}
*{{card_link|id=25}} (Alternative card)
*{{card_link|id=20|name=Holger}}
*{{card_link|id=26|name=Klarissa}}

[[Category:Witches]]

Charlotte

2011-04-10T23:02:00Z

128.54.205.195: Is it actually any different?

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'''Charlotte''' ({{Runes|CHARLOTTE}}) is a [[witch]] appearing in [[Episode 3]] of the anime. She has two forms.

{{Card
|name = Charlotte
|runes = CHARLOTTE
|image = File:Card Charlotte.png
|japanese_desc = お菓子の魔女。その性質は執着。欲しいものは全部。絶対に諦めない。お菓子を無限に生み出せるが大好物のチーズだけは自分で作ることができない。チーズさえ持っていれば簡単に隙をつくことが出来ただろう。
|english_desc = The dessert witch, with a tenacious nature. She desires everything. She will never give up. Though she is capable of creating infinite amounts of any dessert she desires, she is unable to make the cheese that she loves most. One could easily catch her off-guard with a piece of cheese.
|type = Dessert witch
|nature = Tenacity
|episodes = [[Episode 3]]
}}
{{Card
|name = Charlotte
|runes = CHARLOTTE
|image = File:Card Charlotte 2.png
|japanese_desc = お菓子の魔女。その性質は執着。欲しいものは全部。絶対に諦めない。お菓子を無限に生み出せるが大好物のチーズだけは自分で作ることができない。チーズさえ持っていれば簡単に隙をつくことが出来ただろう。
|english_desc = See above.
|type = Dessert witch
|nature = Tenacity
|episodes = [[Episode 3]]
}}

==Minions==
{{Card
|name = Pyotr
|runes = PYOTR
|image = File:Card Pyotr.png
|japanese_desc = お菓子の魔女の手下。その役割はチーズを探すこと。しかし過度な期待は禁物。
|english_desc = The dessert witch's minion. His duty is to search for cheese. However, one shouldn't expect much from him.
|type = Dessert witch's minion
|task = Searching for cheese
|episodes = [[Episode 3]]
}}

==Trivia==
*A [[Facts_and_Observations#Witches_and_desserts|charlotte]] is a type of dessert.
*The head of her first form is shaped like piece of candy in wrap.
*Watching carefully one can see that when Charlotte's second form gets injured a new Charlotte comes out of the mouth replacing the old as if the layers are being blown away.
*[[:Wikipedia:Pyotr|Pyotr]] is the Russian form of the given name Peter.
*On the official website, a mousing over Charlotte's card changes the image from the first to the second using JavaScript.
*Although official pronunciations of almost all witches' names are undisclosed, "Charlotte" is pronounced "シャルロッテ" (Sharurotte) like a German name (Shar-lot-teh) according to [http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004PVTNNK/ an official product's document].
*Runes in Charlotte's card are styled like biscuits.
*Charlotte reveals witches' kisses differ from witch to witch.

==Speculation==
*Her second form may have been inspired by [[wikipedia:The Very Hungry Caterpillar|The Very Hungry Caterpillar]].
*Her second form seems to be visually based on - or inspired by japanese modern artist [[Takeshi Murakami]]'s art.
*Charlotte might have been a cancer patient. Patients undergoing chemotherapy are unable to eat certain foods such as cheese. This would explain her hospital-based labyrinth theme and the location of her grief seed. Kyuubey is likely to target terminally ill girls.
*In that case, her caterpillar-like second form would represent unlimited reproduction of cancer cells.
*It is possible that she was designed around the theme of bulimia nervosa, which involves restrained food intake, periodic binge-eating, and frequently the purging of consumed foods through vomit. Issues of self-image may be involved.
*Charlotte might have another true body separately and be immortal without its destruction. (See the gallery)

==Gallery==
<gallery captionalign="left" position="center">
File:Charlotte_initialform.jpg|Charlotte as she first appeared.
File:Charlotte_and_bomb_that_blew_her_up.png|One can see a bomb stuck to Charlotte's tongue, which she then swallows. This and other bombs Homura laid down during her game of leapfrog made the series of explosions which killed Charlotte.
File:And-then--black-mr-dob-takashi-murakami.jpg| '''And Then, And Then, And Then, And Then, And Then (Black Mr. DOB)''' by Takashi Murakami: This style of "superflat" might have been applied to the design of Charlotte's second form.
File:Charlotte-manga.jpg|Charlotte in the manga.
File:Charlotte_seed.png|Charlotte's grief seed.
File:Charlotte_grief_large2.jpg|Charlotte's grief seed on the hospital wall
File:Charlotte_grief_large.jpg|The seed glows as it begins to activate
File:Charlotte_activating.jpg|A close-up of the seed's emblem just before Charlotte appears
File:Mami-gem-vs-charlotte-seed.png|Comparison of Charlotte's grief seed and Mami's soul gem
File:Ep3 Charlotte Fake JP.jpg|Charlotte's true body ?
</gallery>

==External links==
*{{card_link|id=6}}
*{{card_link|id=7|name=Pyotr}}

[[Category:Witches]]