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Charlotte

2013-11-14T03:03:47Z

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'''Charlotte''' ({{Runes|CHARLOTTE}}) is a [[witch]] appearing in [[Episode 3]] of the anime. She has two forms. {{Spoiler|She is the witch-form of Nagisa Momoe}}

{{Card
|name = Charlotte (First Form)
|runes = CHARLOTTE
|image = File:Card Charlotte.png
|japanese_desc = お菓子の魔女。その性質は執着。欲しいものは全部。絶対に諦めない。お菓子を無限に生み出せるが大好物のチーズだけは自分で作ることができない。チーズさえ持っていれば簡単に隙をつくことが出来ただろう。
|english_desc = The dessert witch, with a tenacious nature. She desires everything. She will never give up. Though she is capable of creating infinite amounts of any dessert she desires, she is unable to make the cheese that she loves most. One could easily catch her off-guard with a piece of cheese.
|type = Dessert witch
|nature = Tenacity
|episodes = [[Episode 3]]
}}
{{Card
|name = Charlotte (Second Form)
|runes = CHARLOTTE
|image = File:Card Charlotte 2.png
|japanese_desc = お菓子の魔女。その性質は執着。欲しいものは全部。絶対に諦めない。お菓子を無限に生み出せるが大好物のチーズだけは自分で作ることができない。チーズさえ持っていれば簡単に隙をつくことが出来ただろう。
|english_desc = See above.
|type = Dessert witch
|nature = Tenacity
|episodes = [[Episode 3]]
}}

==Minions==
{{Card
|name = Pyotr
|runes = PYOTR
|image = File:Card Pyotr.png
|japanese_desc = お菓子の魔女の手下。その役割はチーズを探すこと。しかし過度な期待は禁物。
|english_desc = The dessert witch's minion. His duty is to search for cheese. However, one shouldn't expect much from him.
|type = Dessert witch's minion
|task = Searching for cheese
|episodes = [[Episode 3]]
}}

==Trivia==
[[File:How The Hell is Charlotte MOE.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Why is Charlotte Moe?]]
*A [[Episode_3#Witches_and_desserts|charlotte]] is a type of dessert.
*The name Charlotte could also refer to [[:Wikipedia:Charlotte Buff|Charlotte Buff]], a woman [[:Wikipedia:Goethe|Goethe]] unrequitedly loved and that deeply influenced him. The central and homonym character from Goethe's [[:Wikipedia:The Sorrows of Young Werther|The Sorrows of Young Werther]] was based on her.
*Runes in Charlotte's card are styled like biscuits.
*On the official website, mousing over Charlotte's card changes the image from the first to the second using JavaScript.
*Although official pronunciations of almost all witches' names are undisclosed, "Charlotte" is pronounced "シャルロッテ" (Sharurotte) like a German name (Shar-lot-teh) according to [http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004PVTNNK/ an official product's document].
*[[:Wikipedia:Pyotr|Pyotr]] is the Russian form of the given name Peter.
*Charlotte makes a brief appearance in [[Puella Magi Oriko Magica]].
*The [[Runes:Episode_3 | runes reading "MAMI MOGU MOGU GONBO"]] in Charlotte's barrier describe Mami's death, as mogu mogu is onomatopoeia for chewing, but also likely reference to a famous educational cooking TV show called [http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%A2%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A2%E3%82%B0GOMBO Mogu Mogu Gombo].
**There is no significant difference between the Japanese pronunciations of gonbo and gombo, so gonbo is an alternate romanization.
**Mogu Mogu Gombo aired from 1993 until 2003 and was hosted by two famous comedians (Kobuhei Hayashiya and HIROMI). The main target audience was children, but many adults also enjoyed it.
**The cooking and eating themes of the show match Charlotte's themes of sweets and eating Mami. A children's show matches other aspects of the barrier: Charlotte looks like a doll in one form and a clown in the other, she has a tea party setup like what a little girl might arrange, and she fills her barrier with candy.

==Observation==
*The head of her first form is shaped like a piece of candy in wrap.
*Watching carefully one can see that when Charlotte's second form gets injured a new Charlotte comes out of the mouth replacing the old as if the layers are being blown away.
*Charlotte reveals witches' kisses differ from witch to witch.
*A line in the [[:file:Guidebook_0067.jpg|design for Charlotte's labyrinth]] in the [[Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_Official_Guidebook_"You_Are_Not_Alone"#Witch_Design|Official Guidebook]] says "It's really a delicious cheese cake. My dying mother wanted to eat it, but maybe I should have cured her disease instead. However, that surely wasn't appropriate."
*A description in the [[Puella_Magi_Production_Note#Witch_of_cheesecake_.28early_concept_that_later_became_Charlotte.29 | Production Note]] reveals that Charlotte obtained "one single cheesecake" in strict accordance with her wish.

==Speculation==
*Her second form may have been inspired by [[wikipedia:The Very Hungry Caterpillar|The Very Hungry Caterpillar]].
*Her second form seems to be visually based on - or inspired by Japanese modern artist [[wikipedia:Takashi Murakami|Takashi Murakami]]'s art.
*Charlotte might have been a cancer patient. Patients undergoing chemotherapy are unable to eat certain foods such as cheese. This would explain her hospital-based labyrinth theme and the location of her grief seed. Kyubey is likely to target terminally ill girls.
**In that case, her caterpillar-like second form would represent unlimited reproduction of cancer cells.
*A fan theory about Charlotte's life as a magical girl has a number of similarities to {{Spoiler|Airi}}, from [[Kazumi Magica]]. {{Spoiler|Like Airi, she was a hospital patient and she wished to live and enjoy eating, just like Charlotte's obsession with cheese. Plus, both become witches.}}
*It is possible that she was designed around the theme of bulimia nervosa, which involves restrained food intake, periodic binge-eating, and frequently the purging of consumed foods through vomit. Issues of self-image may be involved.
*Charlotte might have another true body separately and be immortal without its destruction. (See the gallery)
*Assuming the cancer patient theory, she could have wished herself able to eat sweets without consequences. Such a wish would have likely cured her, but the selfishness of it -- compared to, for instance, wishing cancer didn't exist saving tons of people -- could have driven her toward becoming a witch. Her double form would then represent the guilt eating away at her: though she looked like an innocent girl, she felt like she was a selfish monster.
*The [[Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_Official_Guidebook_"You_Are_Not_Alone"#Witch_Design|Guidebook line]] on Charlotte indicates that it was Charlotte's mother who was ill. One speculation is that her mother loved food, especially cheese and sweets, and often shared them with Charlotte. When Kyubey approached during an emotional moment, Charlotte wished to share a cake with her mother one last time. After they ate the cake and the mother died, Charlotte realized that she could have wished to cure her mother, and quickly became a witch. Cheese, which Charlotte cannot create in her labyrinth, represents her mother.
**Since the shock of such a realization could darken a soul gem very quickly (much like the speed with which Homura's darkened in Episode 11), this theory allows for the possibility that Kyubey contracted Charlotte while Madoka and Sayaka were visiting the hospital in [[Episode 3]].
***Perhaps Kyubey was hanging around on Madoka's shoulder, telepathically eavesdropping on people in the hospital, and heard Charlotte and her mother. "Charlotte, I wish I could eat cake with you one last time before I die." Kyubey sent one of his other bodies to make a contract. Once the cake was finished and they said their goodbyes, the wording of the wish caused the mother to die on the spot, and then Kyubey wondered out loud why Charlotte didn't wish to cure the disease instead. Instant witch, and he stuck the new grief seed into the wall where Madoka and Sayaka were headed to pressure them into contracting.
**The last two lines from the guidebook seem to imply that Charlotte had actually considered wishing for her mother to be healed, but simply never made said wish on the grounds of "But that wish is impossible, isn't it?" It seems very likely that once QB had actually granted said wish and made her into a magical girl, she saw that impossible things really could happen and was either driven into immediate regret and despair or she slowly broke down and destroyed herself with never ending questions and doubts.
** It should be mentioned the guidebooks clearly indicate prototype witches, and that there were significant differences between what was described in the guidebook and in the anime (see the Witch of cheesecake, below).
*Charlotte and Mami Tomoe could also be linked to the story “Hansel and Gretel". The witch in Hansel and Gretel lives in a house made of gingerbread, cake and candy, similar to Charlotte's barrier. The witch's intent is to eat the children, which is also like Charlotte's behavior.

==See Also==
*[[Puella_Magi_Production_Note#Witch_of_cheesecake_.28early_concept_that_later_became_Charlotte.29|Witch of cheesecake (early concept)]]
*[[Nagisa Momoe]]

==Gallery==

=== Official Art ===
<gallery captionalign="left" position="center">
File:Charlotte-manga.jpg|Charlotte in the manga.
File:Charlotte's Nurse Familiars.jpg|Sketches for Charlotte's nurse familiars.
File:Production note Charlotte 1.jpg|Sketches from production notes.
File:Production note Charlotte 2.jpg|
File:Production note Charlotte 3.jpg|
File:Production note Charlotte 4.jpg|
File:Production note Charlotte storyboard 1.jpg|
File:Production note Charlotte storyboard 2.jpg|
File:PN 81.jpg|
File:PN 15.jpg|
File:PN 24.jpg|
File:Guidebook 0047.jpg|Puella Magi Madoka Magica Official Guidebook "You Are Not Alone"
File:Guidebook 0048.jpg
File:Guidebook 0060.jpg
File:Guidebook 0067.jpg
File:GRIEF GS ICON CHAR.png|Charlotte Grief Seed from [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable]]
</gallery>

=== Screenshots ===
<gallery captionalign="left" position="center">
File:Charlotte_grief_large2.jpg|Charlotte's grief seed on the hospital wall
File:Charlotte_grief_large.jpg|The seed glows as it begins to activate
File:Charlotte_activating.jpg|A close-up of the seed's emblem just before Charlotte appears
File:Charlotte_initialform.jpg|Charlotte as she first appeared.
File:Charlotte_and_bomb_that_blew_her_up.png|One can see a bomb stuck to Charlotte's tongue, which she then swallows. This and other bombs Homura laid down during her game of leapfrog made the series of explosions which killed Charlotte.
File:Mami shoot Charlotte.gif|Mami shoot Charlotte
File:Charlotte hit by Tiro Finale.gif|Charlotte hit by Mami's Tiro Finale
File:Homura charlotte big boom.gif|Homura versus Charlotte Second Form
File:2mcva6r.jpeg|A picture of Charlotte appears on a piece of candy in the background before they fight her in episode 3.
</gallery>

=== Speculation and Analysis===
<gallery>
File:Charlottecomparison.PNG|A comparison chart showing one of Walpurgis familiar's silhouette matching with Charlotte. Notice that the Witch's nose has the same shape as the silhouette's tail, similar hair, and a resemblance to the wand.
File:PN_86.jpg|This sketch from the [[Puella_Magi_Production_Note | production notes]] shows the Walpurgis familiar suspected to be Charlotte with bangs similar to Charlotte's and polka-dotted tights.
File:Ep3 Charlotte Fake JP.jpg|Charlotte's true body ?
File:Totally not Charlotte pile-up figures.jpg
</gallery>

=== Fanart ===
<gallery captionalign="left" position="center">
File:Mami Charlotte cosplay.jpg|Awesome cosplay
File:Charlotte 458.jpeg
File:Charlotte sick fanart.jpg|Fanart depiction of Charlotte as a hospital patient.
File:Charlotte close up smiling avatar fanart.jpg
File:Charlotte_seed.png|Charlotte's grief seed.
File:Heart-warming.gif|
File:MadoKami Charlotte final wish cheese.jpg|Happy Ending.
File:Mamilotte big love.jpg
File:Apricot +4.jpg|[[Ume Aoki]] doujin "RKGKMDK"
File:A world full of charlottes.jpg|nightmare fuel just before bedtime.
File:Charlottewithcake.jpg|Charlotte in human form. She is crying because she wanted cheese and all she got was cake.
File:My wish by yunare-d3jv9oy.jpg
File:Charlotte as a normal girl.jpg
File:Charlotte yellow pancake.png|Mmmm... taste like Mami.
File:Charlotte mami execution style.jpg|It was self-defense, your honor.
File:Charlotte kyoko not so different after all.jpg
File:Charlotte familiars cookies cupcakes sweets.jpg
File:Charlotte loves cheese.jpg
File:Charlotte pacman game.gif|Charlotte pacman game
File:Charlotte wins eat mamicakes.png|Charlotte: 1 <br>Mami: 0
File:Charlotte human puella magi wings fanart.jpg
File:Hungry hungry charlotte ready to eat fanart.jpg
File:Charlotte to eat mami fanart.jpg
File:Charlotte like a bossu fanart.png
File:Charlotte human form smile fanart.jpg
File:Charlotte daily activity fanart.png|Charlotte's daily activities
File:Charlotte v sign for cheese fanart.jpg
File:Genderbender charlotte magical boy fanart.png|Charlotte as a magical…boy?
File:Mami charlotte kill me baby cheese fanart.png
File:CHARLOTTE black white fanart work.jpg
File:18471637 p6.jpg
File:Mami and charlotte nice chair fanart.png
File:Mami and Charlotte slumber.jpg
File:Charlotte crying.png
File:Charlotte by Xaien.jpg
</gallery>

=== Other ===
<gallery captionalign="left" position="center">
File:And-then--black-mr-dob-takashi-murakami.jpg| '''And Then, And Then, And Then, And Then, And Then (Black Mr. DOB)''' by Takashi Murakami: This style of "superflat" might have been applied to the design of Charlotte's second form.
File:Mami-gem-vs-charlotte-seed.png|Comparison of Charlotte's grief seed and Mami's soul gem
File:Urobuchi punch charlotte.jpg|Not even Charlotte can defeat [[Gen Urobuchi]].
</gallery>

==External links==
*{{card_link|id=6}}
*{{card_link|id=7|name=Pyotr}}
*[http://askcandywitch.tumblr.com/ Ask Charlotte!] ''(a fan blog)''
*[http://www.pixiv.net/tags.php?tag=charlotte Charlotte pixiv fanart]
*[http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2531030228 How to make your own Charlotte!]
[[Category:Witches]]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j38ZeqBJzA ''Käse, Käse, wo ist die Käse?'']
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL1IcTLCnvs 【MMD】Charlotte is sleeping /Puella Magi Madoka Magica 魔法少女まどか☆マギカ ]

Talk:Candeloro

2012-07-10T06:07:47Z

Datadoggieein: /* Call me Crazy */ new section

[[File:The oversexualization of candeloro.jpg|right|thumb|300px|stay away from 4chan if you know what is good for you...]]

are we going to consider the game canon?... there is always issues with games... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 02:20, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
:The scenarios are written by Urobuchi, Shaft and Inu Curry are doing the designs, the seiyuu are voicing their characters so yeah, I'd say it's reasonable to consider it at least as canonical as the manga spin-offs, which also have share the character page and so on. --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 02:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
::Actually, Urobuchi did not write it (or not ''all of it''). He mainly "Supervise" the script. --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 02:25, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
:::True, though the way it was explained, I have no qualms of it having the complete Urobuchi stamp of approval: The scenarios of the game version will be under full supervision by Gen Urobuchi of Nitroplus. Regarding that Doi noted that “the game will have multiple ending and I would like to drill down to explore the aspects of the characters that have not been seen before.” He also mentioned Urobuchi came to the development site frequently to have discussions. Doi looked satisfied with the result and said “I have high expectation of the scenarios.” At the very least, it will be as canonical as the drama CDs, which were also under his supervision. --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 02:32, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
:It won't hurt listing the witch in characters page though, as long as we mark it as '''''from PSP game'''''. (Just like how we treat Oriko/Kazumi, etc.) Personally I think if Inu Curry designs it, at very least ''the witch form'' could be considered canon (even if the story itself may not be quite so). --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 02:25, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
::I swear I'll never get people's gripes with canon sources that aren't the main and original source, even if they're just as official... but oh well. <br>As a personal note, I read a number of fan descriptions for Mami's witch form... and this doesn't hold a candle to some of them (no pun intended). It seems too bland, to be honest. I like the idea of the familiars being built into the image or her kouhais; and I have a sort-of childish satisfaction over having called it. --[[User:BrickBreak|BrickBreak]] 03:01, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
:::Well, it matters for two reasons: One is clarity. For example, if someone has only seen the anime and knows Kyubey, mentions of Jubey is going to be confusing. The more works there are produced, the more confusing it will get as the body of information and discrepancies among sources grows larger. The second is that some fans care about sources and made subjective opinions on which they consider canonical and which do not. There will no doubt be some who do not consider some combination of the three manga, the game or the drama CDS to not be canon but rather than make those distinctions, we simply rule out things that are definitely not canonical (like the Comic Anthology) and make sure to list the sources for the rest because of reasons 1 and 2. --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 03:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

:What the heck is her name supposed to mean? --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 03:44, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
::I think it is an [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candeloro Italian name] (male), the female equivalent is Candelora and I think the name seems to suggest something to do with the [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candelora some sort of religious festival], of course I cant understand Italian but there is an [http://www.theflorentine.net/articles/article-view.asp?issuetocId=4043 English source that explains it.] (Good thing Spanish has similar words in Italian or otherwise I wouldnt understand any of it...) --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 03:51, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
:::who would have thought than an Anime/game would actually make me look and learn new things about the world? Nuts... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 04:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
:::Candelora, February 2, Groundhog Day, time travel... I am just thinking this is all coincidental... right? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 04:16, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
::::For some unknown reason I want to scream INUCURRYYYYYYYY! --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 04:20, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
:::: ''In France, Candlemas (Chandeleur) is best known for being the day of pancakes, which are prepared in every way.''. Ok, now this is ridiculous. I wouldnt be surprised if this was true but I still feel like someone is pulling my chain.... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 04:29, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
::::: [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandeleur#Tradition I be darn...] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 04:33, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::: Well played, Quartet. Well played. [[User:Kerigis|Kerigis]] 05:01, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
::: Incidentally, if the "[[Astronomy|witches named after celestial objects]]" is still something that's not a coincidence, we have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9010_Candelo this]. I wouldn't add it to that page or this page, though. --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 05:05, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Who made the Witch Card? Is that the official description from the magazine or is it fanmade? --[[User:SPDUDE48|SPDUDE48]] 24:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
:It's... almost certainly fanmade, I believe. The image was cropped directly from the magazine screenshot and pasted over the Anthony card, and part of the text reads something like "the dynamite body unlike that of a high-schooler which she had in her previous life". [[User:Neuchadjinys|Neuchadjinys]] 05:19, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:It's from 2ch, hence it's in the fanart section...or at least that's where I put it. I can't say where anyone has used it (can't track everything). I can say there's no official card anywhere that I've seen thus far and I don't expect to see a real one anytime soon either. The ones for the anime weren't released until after they were shown in it. The game...is still months away from being sold.--[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 05:59, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::Pretty much all of the manga ones are fanmade, too, so I don't think it's a problem (though maybe erasing that description for the page version would be good). --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 06:29, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Why exactly does the Witch have blue in her design? I thought Mami was all yellow. I know the Witch is suppose to look like a refined young lady, but still . . . --[[User:SPDUDE48|SPDUDE48]] 15:33, 06 January 2012 (UTC)
:Kinda looks like bluish-green to me... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 01:26, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
:Sayaka had a fish tail, and you're concerned with Mami having one more color? LOL, but really, it's probably to break up the mass of yellow. All the witches are multicolored like that. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 02:21, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Am I the only one who thinks Kyouko's Witch will be featured in the next issue of Dengeki Playstation? --[[User:SPDUDE48|SPDUDE48]] 21:14, 09 January 2012 (UTC)

added some more information that I got from 4chan, anyone is welcome to make changes or corrections... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 08:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

==Familiars==
Anyone knows if a card (or cards?) will be made for the familiars? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 04:40, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
:Since their names are unknown now, I don't think it necessary to make them now. [[User:Yorkwoo|Yorkwoo]] 05:12, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

== Witch description ==

Where did Candeloro's description come from? (Revealing her to be the witch of dress-up with an inviting nature) [[User:Silvermoon424|Silvermoon424]] 16:07, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
:It's from [http://i.imgur.com/WDOD3h.jpg her page in the in-game witch encyclopedia.] --[[User:Neuchadjinys|Neuchadjinys]] 19:52, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[User:Silvermoon424|Silvermoon424]] 21:59, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

You know, I am kind of dissapointed that Candeloro's mammies are not big, her hips are very wide... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:49, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
:*Insert Shakira joke here*. Do you think we'll ever get the names of the familiars? [[User:SPDUDE48|SPDUDE48]] 11:10, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

== Call me Crazy ==

I like her better than her magical girl form.Yes, I am very much so insane --[[User:Datadoggieein|Datadoggieein]] 06:07, 10 July 2012 (UTC)The Makuta of Matau Nui

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