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2014-01-11T22:17:32Z

Hoshiko:

... Homura is... holding a nut... ;_____; -[[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 22:17, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

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2014-01-11T22:17:19Z

Hoshiko: Created page with "... Homura is... holding a nutcracker... ;_____; -~~~~"

... Homura is... holding a nutcracker... ;_____; -[[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 22:17, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2014-01-08T05:29:11Z

Hoshiko: /* Ending Requirement */

[[File:Yuri relationship map.jpg|thumb|The Pandering Pentagram]]

== PS3 or Vita? ==
[[File:Tension up.jpg|right|150px]]
Is it PS3 or Vita? I see a big "PS3" on the page photo...--[[User:Kerigis|Kerigis]] 07:53, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:Wait, looking at the images, judging from the paragraphs and the side of the page... it's PS3 AND Vita?! Holy Madokami's ribbons... --[[User:Kerigis|Kerigis]] 08:06, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:: I'm sure that it's Vita, one of the screenshots in the Dengenki magazine (the one that says PS3) has L and R buttons on it, meaning that's Vita... ;_; [[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 08:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:::But why would it be indexed in PS3? Unless Dengeki blundered hard, causing all this mess.--[[User:Kerigis|Kerigis]] 08:23, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
::::If it were for both Famitsu would have said something :( I'm sad because I was planning to get a PS3 soon... (late to the party I know) but I would never ever get a Vita Dx[[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 08:31, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:Famitsu magazine clearly says PS3, while the other clearly says it's for Vita. (You don't need Japanese, just look at the pictures.) Someone goofed. --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 10:53, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:Famitsu issued an apology for the error - [[User:Prima|Prima]] 22:46, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
<blockquote> '【2013/09/12修正】本作の対応機種に誤りがありました。正しくはプレイステーション Vita対応ソフトとなります。読者の皆様、ならびに関係各位にご迷惑をおかけしましたことをお詫びするとともに、ここに訂正させていただきます。' </blockquote>
*http://www.famitsu.com/news/201309/12039771.html

*http://www.famitsu.com/news/201309/17040052.html

== Translation ==
Any kind soul up for translating the info on the pages (the prologue as a priority)? --[[User:Kerigis|Kerigis]] 08:36, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

==4chan thread==
*[http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/93627007/ Livestream reaction]

==promotional material==
*[http://matomagi.doorblog.jp/archives/32717273.html Some promotional material about Battle Pentagram. ]

==New TBP scans!!!==
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2767519007

==Youtube vids==
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6AsLPdc9u8 Puella Magi ☆ Madoka Magica The Battle Pentagram - Opening]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoLCUuqr1w4 Puella Magi ☆ Madoka Magica The Battle Pentagram - Prologue - Part 1]

===The Battle Pentagram BAD END===
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzbHqc4Oz2U video]

Announcement: An exceptional disaster warning has been issued for all areas of Mitakihara City. All residents are asked to proceed to their designated emergency shelters with all due haste.

Kyuubey: It's finally here.

Kyuubey: Five magical girls worked together to make it this far, winning tough battles and avoiding witchdom.

Kyuubey: That, in other words, is a sign that hope and despair are going to undergo a major reconfiguration. This is going to be a prime opportunity to harvest some emotional energy.

Kyuubey: Akemi Homura, I owe you my thanks. Will the hope you left behind turn to despair?

Kyuubey: Let's see what decisions you five make today.

[battle happens and Mami loses]

Mami: N-no!

Mami: I guess I'm just not good enough.

Homura: You couldn't have done anything about it. Let's retreat.

[out of battle mode]

Homura: [panting]

Homura: Why? Why can't I win?

Homura: Everybody else died...

Homura: Madoka... girls...

Homura: I'm sorry...

Homura: Next time... I swear...

Homura: We'll all live, and we'll defeat it together!

Homura: ???!!!

===Puella Magi ☆ Madoka Magica The Battle Pentagram - Homura and Madoka Special Scene ===
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dJpdPyQtww video]

(YURI SUBTEXT!!!!! SPOILER!!!!)

'''Translation:'''

Madoka: This is my house.

Homura: Indeed.

Homura: What with your father's careful management of your vegetable garden and the excellent repair of the building, it truly is an excellent home.

Madoka: Y-you sure know a lot about it.

Homura: Anyway, is it alright for me to visit right now?

Madoka: Of course! Come on in!

Madoka: I'm home!

Homura: Hello.

Madoka: I guess they're out shopping? Want to have a bath before dinner?

Homura: Huh? Sure...

Homura: Madoka, you go ahead first. I can wait...

Madoka: Don't be silly. Let's bathe together!

Homura: Huh!? T-together?

Madoka: Ehehe. Just kidding!

Homura: Madoka...

[scene change to bed]

Homura: Hey, Madoka, are you still awake?

Madoka: Yeah. Sleeping in the same bed is a bit embarrassing, huh.

Homura: That's why I offered to sleep on the floor...

Madoka: No, this is nice. Plus, you're so warm.

Homura: So are you, Madoka.

Madoka: [laughs]

Homura: Why did you invite me to spend the night?

Madoka: When you told me you lived alone, you seemed so lonely.

Homura: I... seemed lonely?

Madoka: And so I kind of wanted to spend a lot of talking with you.

Homura: Madoka... Um, thank you.

Madoka: You shouldn't thank me for that.

Madoka: I'm so happy just spending time with you.

Homura: Me too.

Madoka: Can I sleep over at your place next time?

Homura: S-sure. There's not much there, but if you're okay with that...

Madoka: That's not true. You're there.

Homura: Madoka...

Madoka: I'm kind of tired now.

Homura: Me too. I think I'll get a good sleep tonight.

Madoka: Alright, I'm going to switch off the lights. Good night, Homura-chan.

Homura: Good night, Madoka.

>''You have earned a trophy!''
>''Achievement Unlocked: "My (other) best friend"''

===Homu Obession===
[http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22568063 niconico video]

From the last event in this video (Starts at 10:35):

SAYAKA: Homura, that you? Good morning.

HOMURA: Good morning, Sayaka.

SAYAKA: So you pass by this street too? I never knew.

HOMURA: I've seen you several times.

SAYAKA: Huh, really? Say something next time, alright?

HOMURA: I'll consider it.

HOMURA: ...

SAYAKA: ...

SAYAKA: Homura, say something.

HOMURA: Why?

SAYAKA: Aren't friends supposed to have fun conversations while they walk to school!?

HOMURA: True.

SAYAKA: ...

HOMURA ...

SAYAKA: Come on! Talk, talk!

HOMURA: ...

SAYAKA: Sigh... well, should I try to find something we have in common?

HOMURA: Madoka-

SAYAKA: Huh?

HOMURA: She's kind to everyone. She's a wonderful person who's very considerate to her friends.

HOMURA: She always takes what I say seriously, and acts accordingly.

HOMURA: The depths to her compassion are-

SAYAKA: Wa- wait a minute, Homura. What are you talking about?

HOMURA: Madoka, of course.

SAYAKA: A- aren't you idealizing her a bit?

HOMURA: Absolutely not. You surely know of her greatness as well, Sayaka.

HOMURA: Madoka's famed for being kind to even animals-

SAYAKA: That's enough! Let's just go quietly, okay!?

===Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram -- Madoka/Sayaka Max Relationship Scene===
The video has english subs as annotations
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2h6-t7HPs8 YouTube video]

===Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram -- Madoka/Mami Max Relationship Scene (English Annotations)===
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2J3BtYvVbM youtube video]

===Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram -- Sayaka/Homura Max Relationship Scene (English Annotations)===
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I5LOO7BR0I youtube video]

===HomuSaya Max Relationship video===

"Go easy on me, Sayaka"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I5LOO7BR0I

===KyoSaya===
Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram -- Kyouko/Sayaka Max Relationship Scene (English Annotations)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CluEoQH1xow

===HomuKyo===
Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram -- Homura/Kyouko Max Relationship Scene (English Annotations)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohf0n6ymcso

===List of each character pair's relationship at max level!===

Mado/Saya: ”運命共同体” -- "Those With a Shared Destiny"

Mado/Mami: "大好きな人" -- "Loved Person"*

Mado/Kyou: "憧れの存在” -- "A Yearned-for Existence"

Mado/Homu: "運命の人" -- "Person of Fate"

Saya/Mami: "背中を守る者" -- "The One Who's Got Your Back"

Saya/Kyou: "相思相愛" -- "Mutual Love"(!)

Saya/Homu: "認め合った仲" -- "Mutually Recognized Friendship"

Mami/Homu: "共に進む戦友" -- "Comrades Who Push Forward Together"

Mami/Kyou: "心許せる存在" -- "An Existence of Trust"

Kyou/Homu: "最後の切り札" -- "The Final Trump Card"

*it should be noted that Mami straight-up asks Madoka out on a date. Not "let's go somewhere together" or anything more vague like that, but she directly uses the word "date", complete with Madoka giving her the "but we're both girls" excuse. And during said date, Mami tells Madoka that the way she feels about her is a secret. This could very well be the most strongly-suggested pair in the game.
**Mami-san hard gay? That's hardly a surprise. --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 21:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

===Puella Magi ☆ Madoka Magica The Battle Pentagram - BAD END #1===
Walpurgis is defeated, but Madoka cant take the fact that the city has been destroyed so Madoka becomes a witch (youtube description says that Madoka destroyed her Soul Gem, not sure about it). --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 07:32, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1AWAOLjC9I youtube video]

==Character Relationship==

{|class="wikitable" style="width:100%;text-align:center;border:none;"
!colspan="5"| Madoka
|-
| '''Relationship level'''
| '''Sayaka'''
| '''Mami'''
| '''Homura'''
| '''Kyoko'''
|-
| 1~3
| Close Friend 
| Senpai & Kouhai 
| Friend 
| Comrade 
|-
| 4~6
| Best Friend 
| Teacher & Disciple 
| Close Friend 
| Close Friend 
|-
| 7~9 (max)
| Those With a Shared Destiny 
| Loved Person 
| Person of Fate 
| A Yearned-for Existence 
|}

{|class="wikitable" style="width:100%;text-align:center;border:none;"
!colspan="5"| Sayaka
|-
| '''Relationship level'''
| '''Madoka'''
| '''Mami'''
| '''Homura'''
| '''Kyoko'''
|-
| 1~3
| Close Friend 
| Senpai & Kouhai 
| Comrade 
| Comrade 
|-
| 4~6
| Best Friend 
| Teacher & Disciple 
| Comrade-in-arms 
| Partner 
|-
| 7~9 (max)
| Those With a Shared Destiny 
| The One Who's Got Your Back 
| Mutually Recognized Friendship 
| Mutual Love 
|}

{|class="wikitable" style="width:100%;text-align:center;border:none;"
!colspan="5"| Mami
|-
| '''Relationship level'''
| '''Madoka'''
| '''Sayaka'''
| '''Homura'''
| '''Kyoko'''
|-
| 1 ~3
| Senpai & Kouhai 
| Senpai & Kouhai 
| Collaborator 
| Old friend 
|-
| 4~6
| Teacher & Disciple 
| Teacher & Disciple 
| Comrade 
| Close Friend 
|-
| 7~9 (max)
| Loved Person 
| The One Who's Got Your Back 
| Comrades Who Push Forward Together 
| An Existence of Trust 
|}

{|class="wikitable" style="width:100%;text-align:center;border:none;"
!colspan="5"| Homura
|-
| '''Relationship level'''
| '''Madoka'''
| '''Sayaka'''
| '''Mami'''
| '''Kyoko'''
|-
| 1 ~3
| Friend 
| Comrade 
| Collaborator 
| Collaborator 
|-
| 4~6
| Close Friend 
| Comrade-in-arms 
| Comrade 
| Comrade 
|-
| 7~9 (max)
| Person of Fate 
| Mutually Recognized Friendship 
| Comrades Who Push Forward Together 
| The Final Trump Card 
|}

{|class="wikitable" style="width:100%;text-align:center;border:none;"
!colspan="5"| Kyoko
|-
| '''Relationship level'''
| '''Madoka'''
| '''Sayaka'''
| '''Mami'''
| '''Homura'''
|-
| 1 ~3
| Comrade 
| Comrade 
| Old friend 
| Collaborator 
|-
| 4~6
| Close Friend 
| Partner 
| Close Friend 
| Comrade 
|-
| 7~9 (max)
| A Yearned-for Existence 
| Mutual Love 
| An Existence of Trust 
| The Final Trump Card 
|}

Someone might want to fix those translation if it's incorrect.
::too bad we cant see the japanese words... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 08:23, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
:::It's hidden in the comment (for aesthetic reason...) , should it also included in the table ? - [[User:Arkeid|Arkeid]] 09:18, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
::::nah, let it be. its fine. --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 11:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

==Ending Requirement==
Bad End : Lose to Walpugris Night at day 30.

Better End : Defeat Walpugris Night at day 30.

Good End : Max one girl bond with the other four, defeat Walpugris Night at day 30 with her.

True End: Defeat Walpugris Night at day 30, max everyone bond.

:What is the True End in this game? -[[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 05:29, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

==Spreadsheet for this game==
Similar to the spreadsheet of the first game (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Amu6wOa0hazDdDA0LVVtRWFvRDhMOXJ6SjM2OVpBR0E#gid=1), is there anyone willing enough to make a spreadsheet for this game that details all the stats, spells, and abilities of each girl? I found a forum on gamefaqs asking about a similar thing as well.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/731140-gekijouban-madoka-magicka-the-battle-pentagram/68204113

It would be really awesome if someone made a spreadsheet for this game. Thanks

PS: FYI, I did not start the gamefaqs thread. [[User:Ultimatedorkboy|Ultimatedorkboy]] 04:22, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

File talk:1387975149240.png

2013-12-26T01:43:06Z

Hoshiko: Created page with "Homura confirmed for having a bed. Kyouko says "But... isn't this your bed?" -~~~~"

Homura confirmed for having a bed. Kyouko says "But... isn't this your bed?" -[[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 01:43, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

File talk:Rebellion Runes - Cosmic Ice.jpg

2013-11-24T03:08:46Z

Hoshiko: Created page with "Is this a new camrip? O: --~~~~"

Is this a new camrip? O: --[[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 03:08, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

File talk:Homura evolution magical girl.jpg

2013-11-18T22:53:15Z

Hoshiko:

We did nothing to prevent it! DAMN US ALL TO HELL!!! --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 12:20, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
*Picture from 2011 predicted the future. Well, this is awkward... --[[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 22:53, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

File talk:Chairs rebellion.png

2013-11-16T10:20:50Z

Hoshiko: Created page with "Aaaaand there goes my no-tears pledge. I think this symbolized Homura yearning for Madoka's friendship. Since she knows she has to play the bad guy (aka the girl that creepily..."

Aaaaand there goes my no-tears pledge. I think this symbolized Homura yearning for Madoka's friendship. Since she knows she has to play the bad guy (aka the girl that creepily and randomly hugs Madoka to protect the world) there is just no way that she can have Madoka's affection ever again. I was also wondering about the half-moon and I'm amazed that someone linked that with Gretchen! Makes great sense... -[[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 10:20, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:The Rebellion Story/Spoiler

2013-11-05T23:14:35Z

Hoshiko: /* I Dream of Dawn */

<gallery>
File:Homura is Lucifer (aka anti-madoka).png
File:2 people before and after watched Madoka movie.jpg
File:Shinbo made me do it.jpg
File:IMG 2313 ver2.png
File:Devil Lipstick.jpg
</gallery>

==Magic creating goddesses==

I am starting to think that the Madoka verse is somehow tied to the Karma/Space-Time/Origin compression of Soul-Bond transdimensional network building through hard recurrence method.
*The continuous process of soul recycling amongst parallel dimensions and timelines is a controlled process guided by a general set of laws designed to dillude karmic accumulation and ensure the eventual achievement of perfec happiness, enlightenment or nirvana.
*However, any given set of rules cannot sustain itself in the face of a continuosly changing environment which inevitably stresses it's inherent flaws and loopholes. This in turn determines that at some point the system will find a rupture point that will lead to an accumulation of karmic energy in a single soul which potentially destabilizes the system toward destruction.
*Under normal circumstances, the system flaw will be corrected because most distortions would fall short of the system's flexibily to work under stress and karmic rebounding would come to eliminate the distortion to preserve the system but there are ways to increase karmic accumulation beyond the system's capacity and henceforth triggering a fall.
*Hard recurrence method occurs when a small rupture is repeated over and over under different parallel worlds to the point it begins forming a network of soul-bond energy which grows and potentializes itself beyond the systems security measures and creates enough "fuel" to create a new sustained soul cycle. It basically becomes a flaw so great that a new system needs to be build and the accumulated energy allows for it to happen.
*Once such situation is reached, the rupture point just needs to be connected to the infinite outer dimensional stream of energy that the network will assimilate a portion of it, compress under the soul which caused the rupture and restructure itself into a new working system improved over the previous flaws. Take note that once that process happens, the soul is restructured to infinitely produce the same amount of energy as the one utilized in it's ascention, the person essentially becomes an extention of the infinite stream governing a part of it's power under it's will.
*By all accounts, said process is irreversible as an infinite source of energy cannot be erased, depleted or returned since the affected soul is an extension of the stream and not someone who borrows it's power.
*In the odd case a turnover of system cycles happens to clash with one another, the soul controlling the previous system will be placed into an obervant/consultive role whereas direct command will be given to the bearer of the new one as to prevent previous improvements from being hampered while guaranteeing the continuation of the system improvement cycle.
*If a peaceful coexistence between the previous and the current system becomes impossible, the innevitable points of rupture that arise will guarantee the ascention of a third party that will sanate said points of rupture and assume authority over the previous conflicting souls.
*The cycles will happen as many times as necessary under different systems until a completely sustainable working model can be achieved and all souls find happiness. --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 16:39, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

==Opinions==
Isn't it better to leave the opinions outside of the actual information page? Such as that part were it says "but what type of love? selfish love" or where it says "Madoka is literally a prisoner of Homura's love"? -[[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 05:52, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
: I concur. This page should be primarily informational. Analysis that Hoshiko allured to are better served under [[Yuri undertones]]. - [[User:Prima|Prima]] 06:46, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

==Song Lyrics==
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1JGAfTbIQ0 Cake Song]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-ui1DDErMA Cake Song (slowed down 800%)]

===Cake Song===

[[Cake Song]]

===I Dream of Dawn===

From the end of 3 minute sneak peak.

--
{| class="wikitable" style="line-height: 1.6em;"
! style="width: 33%;" | Original
! style="width: 33%;" | Romanization
! style="width: 34%;" | English Translation
|-
|私は朝の夢を見る
|Watashi wa asa no yume wo miru
|I will see a morning dream.
|-
|まだダメよ（No! Night） 
まだダメよ（No! Night） 
何色の朝が来る？（No? Yes!）
|Mada dame yo (No! Night) 
Mada dame yo (No! Night) 
Nani iro no asa ga kuru?
|Not yet (No! Night) 
Not yet (No! Night) 
What color will morning come in? (No? Yes)
|-
|まだダメよ（No? No!） 
まだダメよ（No? No! Night） 
まだ夜は食べかけよ（No? Yes, no!）
|Mada dame yo (No? No!) 
Mada dame yo (No? No! Night) 
Mada yoru wa tabekake yo (No? Yes, no!)
|Not yet (No? No) 
Not yet (No? No! Night) 
The night is still half-consumed (No! Yes, no!)
|-
|（眠るベルが鳴るどこにいる？）
|(Nemuru beru ga naru doko ni iru?)
|(The sleeping bell will chime. / Where are you?)
|-
|さぁおはよう Nightmare 
まだダメよまだダメよ何色の） 
悪いお夢はこれっきり 
悪いお夢はまだダメよまだ）
|Saa ohayou Nightmare 
(Mada dame yo mada dame yo nani iro no) 
Warui oyume wa korekkiri 
(Warui oyume wa mada dame yo mada)
|Now then, good morning, Nightmare 
(Not yet, not yet, what color)
This is the last bad dream 
(Bad dream, not yet, not)
|-
|}
---
歌っているのはFictionJunction ASUKA（=結城アイラ)
作詞はイヌカレー

== Useful Links ==

* [http://piratepad.net/cDuH6VkiZ5 Q&A]
* [http://www.mediafire.com/download/75j8nl50ia0823f Movie Pamphlet] [http://pan.baidu.com/s/1FvVCU]
* Movie Summary [http://kichiru.tumblr.com/post/65221293010/madoka-magica-the-movie-rebellion-story-summary-part] [http://kichiru.tumblr.com/post/65235479592/madoka-magica-the-movie-rebellion-story-summary-part]

==Fan Reacion==
I remember reading something about how fans would be divided because of the ending, from an interview. does anyone know from which interview is that? and do we have any new articles about it? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:25, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
: [http://www.wakanim.tv/dossier/16/3/interview-durobuchi-gen-et-de-kosaka-takaki the French interview]. I believe I have a translation mirrored on the wiki somewhere. - [[User:Prima|Prima]] 12:42, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

I kinda feel grim for the future of this franchise -- with change for (forced) continuation's sake and all that(Urobochi might enjoy writing with new ideas to torture audiences nonethless, but it wouldn't be the case had the Director and Producer never came up with those ideas).
If the new series or sequel ends so catastrophic such as the universe ends up being destroyed, it would make the series even LESS spectacular(in my opinion anyway), because space/time/universes are being so cheap nowadays [[Special:Contributions/1.161.36.244|1.161.36.244]] 12:55, 30 October 2013 (UTC) An Outsider Audience

==Translation (spoiler alert)==

===Homura and Madoka===

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!colspan="2"| Translation
!colspan="2"| Original Dialogue
|-
|Homura|| I had a very scary dream.
|ほむら||私ね、とても怖い夢を見たの
|-
|Madoka|| A scary dream?
|まどか||夢？
|-
|Homura|| In that dream Madoka went to a place far away, a place that I could never reach. I was the only one who remembered Madoka, I was lonely and in pain. However no else understood my feeling. In the end I doubted whether or not the Madoka I remembered ever existed in the first place or just that something I imagined.
|ほむら||あなたが、もう二度会えないほど遠い所に行っちゃって、なのに世界中の誰もかもがそのことを忘れちゃって、私だけがまどかのことを覚えてるたったひとりの人間として取り残されて...寂しいのに、悲しいのに、その気持ちを誰にもわかってもらえない、そのうちにまどかの思い出はあたしが勝手に作り出した絵空事じゃないかって、自分自身さえ信じられなくなって
|-
|Madoka|| That is a very painful dream, however don't worry, i would never go away and leave you alone.
|まどか||うん、それはとっても嫌な夢だね、でも大丈夫だよ、私だけが誰にも会えなくなるほど遠くに一人で行っちゃうなんて、そんなことありっこないよ
|-
|Homura|| How can you be so certain?
|ほむら||どうして？なぜそう言い切れるの？
|-
|Madoka|| Because it's me. If that it's something that even Homura-chan started to cry about, I would never be able to endure it.
|まどか||だって私だよ？、ほむらちゃんでさえ泣いちゃうような辛いこと、わたしが我慢できるわけないじゃない
|-
|Homura|| That is also something that is unbearable to you?
|ほむら||あなたにとっても、それは我慢できないほど辛いこと？
|-
|Madoka|| That is right, Homura-chan Sayaka-chan, Mami-san, Kyouko-chan, papa, mama, Tatsuya and Hitomi-chan and the rest of the class, I don't want to part with any of you. Even if that is something I must do, I would not have the courage to go through when the time comes.
|まどか||そうだよ、ほむらちゃん、さやかちゃん、マミさんに杏子ちゃん、パパやママやタツヤ、それに仁美ちゃんやクラスのみんな、誰とだってお別れなんてしたくない、もしほかにどうしようもない時だったとしても、そんな勇気私にはないよ
|-
|Homura|| Ah... is that so....
|ほむら||っ...！
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|Homura|| Are these your true feelings then? Then I was a fool to have misunderstood it. I should not have approved. I should have used every possible mean to stop you back then.
|ほむら||そう、そうだったのね、それがあなたの本当の気持ちなら、わたし、なんてバカな間違いを...やっぱり、認めちゃいけなかったんだ、あの時私はどんな手を使ってでも、あなたを止めなきゃいけなかった
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|Homura|| Madoka...
|ほむら||まどか
|-
|Madoka|| Eh?
|まどか||ん？
|-
|Homura||I know.. that you are kind to everyone and not afraid of making choices. When you feel that there is something that only you can do, you would not hesitate even if it means hurting yourself.
|ほむら||あなたにはね、どれほど辛いことだとわかっていても、それを選択出来てしまう勇気があるの。あなたが、あなたにしかできないことがあると知った時、あなたは自分でも気付いていないほど、優しすぎて、強すぎる...わたしね、知ってるんだよ
|-
|Madoka|| Homura-chan?
|まどか||ほむらちゃん？
|-
|Homura|| As I thought... you didn't remember it. Once I thought you were just a mirage... a construct made by someone else. How else would I have been able to meet you again like this? But I know, you definitely are the real Madoka. I am really happy, to be able to speak to you again, to be able to feel your gentleness like this once more. Thank you, this is more than enough happiness for me. I need to go now, there are still much to be done.
|ほむら||そっか、やっぱりまどかもなにも覚えてないんだね、もしかしたら、あなたは幻かもしれないって、誰が用意した偽物かもしれないって思ってた、でなければこうしてまた会えるなんてどう考えでもおかしいもの、でもわかる、あなたは本当のまどかだわ、こんなふうに一緒に話ができて、もう一度また優しくしてくれて、本当に嬉しい、ありがとう、それたけで十分にわたしは幸せだった...もういくわ、わたし、まだやり残したことがあるから
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|Madoka|| Homura-chan?
|まどか||ほむらちゃん？
|-
|Madoka (Voice Over)|| I don't understand, Homura-chan.
|まどか||どうしちゃったんだろ、ほむらちゃん...
|-
|Kyubey|| Kyu?
|キユゥべぇ||きゅう？
|}

===Kyubey's Experiment===

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! colspan="4"|Timespan 01:12:20
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!colspan="2"| Translation
!colspan="2"| Original Dialogue
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| QB||Even though you shouldnt have wanted to know the truth, but you can't help but chase after it. Human curiosity is really illogical. Well, I have long thought that you would have found the answer, Akemi Homura.
|キュゥべえ||真実なんて知りたくもないはずなのに、それでも追い求めずにはいられないなんて、つくづく人間の好奇心というものは理不尽だね。まあ、君ならいずれはきっと、答えにたどり着くだろうとは思っていたよ、暁美ほむら
|-
| Homura|| Incubator, of course you are the one behind all this.
|ほむら||インキュベーター。やっぱり何もかも、あなたの仕業だったのね
|-
|Kyubey|| The question is thus, where exactly is your life and soul located. Well, let me show you the answer.
|キュゥべえ||残こる疑問は、君の命と魂は、今どこにあるのかだよね。その答えは、僕が教えてあげる
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|Kyubey|| This is what is beyond the boundary of this fake Mitakihara, your condition in the real world.
|キュゥべえ||これがこの偽物の見滝原市の外側、現実世界の君の姿だよ
|-
|Homura|| How!!
|ほむら||そんな！？
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|Kyubey|| We created a barrier field surronding your soul gem that prevented all intereference from outside. What will happen when we seal off a soul gem that is darkened to the limit?
|キュゥべえ||僕たちの作り出した干渉遮断フィールドは君のソウルジェムを包んでる、すでに限界まで濁りきっていたソウルジェムを、外からの影響力が一切及ばない環境に閉じ込めたとき、何が起こるのか？
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|Homura|| An experiment.....
|ほむら||実験…
|-
|Kyubey|| When we isolate it from the power that purifies and ascends magic girls, the power that you called 'laws of cycle' then what will happen to the soul gem? The resulting observation is indeed rather fascinating. An isolated dimension was formed with its own independent law that seeks to guide and capture victims from the outside... This match what you have previously explained, the power of a 'witch'. So long as you are protected by the isolation field, then you would not become a full 'witch'. Like a chick who grew up within its own shell. That is why you formed a labryinth within. It's quite shocking that it is fully capable of replicating and reproducing an entire city. This place we are at right now, is a world existing solely within your own soul gem.
|キュゥべえ||魔法少女を浄化し、消滅させる力、君たちは「円環の理」と呼んでいる現象から隔離されたとき、ソウルジェムはどうなるのか？確かに興味深い結果を観察させてもらったよ。独自の法則に支配された閉鎖空間の形成と、外部の犠牲者の誘導、捕獲。これこそまさしく、いつか君が説明してくれた魔女とやらの能力、そのものだよね。遮断フィールドに保護されたソウルジェムがまだ砕けていない以上、君は完全な形で魔女に変化できたわけでもない。卵を割ることができなかった雛が殻の中で成長してしまったようなものだね。だから君は、自らの内側に結界を作り出すことになった。まさか、町一つを丸ごと模倣して再現できるとは、驚きだ。ここはね、君のソウルジェムの中にある世界なんだよ。
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|Homura|| That is quite a strange logic, if it's isolated from the outside world. Then it should not possible for someone to enter the labyrinth.
|ほむら||その理屈は変よ。外部と遮断されているなら、この結界に、誰かが迷い込むことだって、なかったはずでしょ
|-
|Kyubey|| That is due to our adjustment. The isolation field will only stop interference from one direction. Even though it will reject all attempts from the outside, it is still possible to guide a victim in from the inside. Only targets that your witch side unconsciously seeks will enter this world. After such limitation, if the force known as 'law of cycle' seeks to contact Akemi Homura still. Then the only way it will enter is through being captured by the labyrinth as a victim and be forced to materialize in this world. In that case, us Incubator will then finally be able to ascertain the puzzle behind magic girl's disappearance, and observe it directly. In fact, the characters that existed in the real world already joined in strange ways. What is more fascinating, a girl that neither existed in past memory nor future possibility, someone who should have no connection, no cause or effect to this world, joined seemlessly in your world. Well, there was never any need to search, from the begining you have made things easier for us, Akemi Homura. Even before this all started, you have always called the 'law of cycles' by the name of Kaname Madoka.
|キュゥべえ||そこは僕たちが調整しているのさ。フィールドの遮断力はあくまで一方通行だ、外からの干渉は弾くけれど、内側からの誘導で、犠牲者を連れ込むことはできる。魔女としての君が、無意識のうちに求めた標的だけが、この世界に入り込めるんだ。ここまで条件を限定した上で、尚も「円環の理」なる存在が、あくまで暁美ほむらに接触しようとするならば、その時は、君の結界に招き入れられた犠牲者という形でこの世界に具現化するしかない。そうなれば、僕たちインキュベーターはこれまで謎だった魔法少女消滅の原因をようやく特定し、観測することができる。実際、君が作った結界には、現実世界にはすでに存在しないキャラクターが奇妙な形で参加している。とりわけ興味深いのは、過去の記憶にも未来の可能性にも存在しない一人の少女だ。この宇宙と一切の因果関系がない存在なのに、彼女は何の違和感もなく君の世界に紛れ込んできた。まあ、そもそも最初から探す必要さえなかったんだ。手間を省いてくれたのは、君自身なんだよ、暁美ほむら。君は以前から、「円環の理」のことを「鹿目まどか」という名前で呼んでいたからね
|-
|Homura|| Then she is really..
|ほむら||じゃあ、あの子はやっぱり…
|-
|Kyubey|| The only troublesome point was that, it does not appear that Kaname Madoka possess any unique power. It seems that the memory control effect produced by the labryinth is effective even against Madoka. Not only has she forgot the purpose of providing salvation to you, she even forgot her true identity and power. As such we had no way of progression.
|キュゥべえ||唯一厄介だったのは、鹿目まどかは未知の力を発揮する素振りを全くみせなかったことだ。結界の主である君の記憶操作はまどかに対しても作用してしまったみたいだね。彼女は君を救済するという目的だけでなく、自分自身の力と正体さえ見失っていたようだ。これでは手の出しようがない。
|-
|Kyubey|| Kaname Madoka forgot her identity as goddess, Akemi Homura forgot her identity as 'witch'. Due to this circumstance we are forced to run around in circle meaninglessly. Well, even though we were intending on waiting for the chick to break its shell, but since now that you have come to the truth, it should make things easier to upset the status quo. Now then Akemi Homura, just seek the help of Madoka, that way she will remember her own identiy, and the reason why she came here.
|キュゥべえ||鹿目まどかは神であることを忘れ、暁美ほむらは魔女であることを忘れ、おかげで僕らはこんな無意味な堂々巡りに付き合わされることになった。まあ、気長に待つつもりでいたけれど、君が真相にたどり着いたことで、ようやく均衡も崩れるだろう。さあ暁美ほむら、まどかの助けを求めるといい。それで彼女は思い出す、自分が何者なのか、何のためにここに来たのか
|-
|Homura|| Incubator, what is your goal?
|ほむら||インキュベーター、あなたたちの狙いは何？
|-
|Kyubey|| Of course it's to observe the force,'law of cycle', that is only a theory up till now.
|キュゥべえ||もちろん、今まで仮説にすぎなかった「円環の理」を、この目で見届けることだよ。
|-
|Homura|| Why? For beings who speak of mere curiosity as illogical, why would you go through the trouble of setting up all this to merely ascertain an existence? No, what you seek is to control Madoka!
|ほむら||何のために？好奇心なんて理不尽だって言ってたくせに、まどかの存在をただ確認するために、こんな大げさな段取りまで用意するわけがない。まどかを、支配するつもりね！
|-
|Kyubey|| I wont deny that was our final goal. Well this is a difficult road in itself. The occurence itself is a puzzle to us completely, an existence that can not be ascertained is truly difficult to handle.
|キュゥべえ||最终的な目的については否定しないよ。まあ道のりは困難だろう。この現象は僕たちにとって全くの謎だった。存在すら確認できないものは、手の出しようがないからね
|-
|Homura|| It would not be you to give up so easily.
|ほむら||それで諦めるあなたたちじゃないわ
|-
|Kyubey|| That is correct, if it can be observed , then it can be interfered with. If It can be interefered with, then it can be controled. One day we will be able to fully strip the power of 'law of cycles'. That way Magic girl will become witches once again, energy collection on a higher level then can be expected. The conversion of energy from hope to despair will be of a level beyond our expectation thus far. There truly exists infinite possibility within magic girls. From the process of you turning into witches, its value will then be shown.
|キュゥべえ||そうだね。観測さえできれば干渉できる。干渉できるなら、制御もできる。いずれ僕たちの研究は「円環の理」を完全に克服するだろう。そうなれば、魔法少女も魔女もない、更なるエネルギーの回収が期待できるようになる。希望と絶望の相転移、その感情から変换されるエネルギーの総量は、予想以上のものだったよ。やっぱり魔法少女は無限の可能性を秘めている。君たちは魔女へと変化することで、その存在を全うするべきだ。
|-
|Homura|| tsk
|ほむら||
|-
|Kyubey|| Why are you so angry? This is really a topic that no longer relates to you. The existence known as Akemi Homura is over. At the end of your cruel destiny, you have completed the promise to meet again with the existence that is most important to you. That should be a joyous occasion.
|キュゥべえ|| なぜ怒るんだい？君にはもう関わりのない話だ。暁美ほむらの存在は完結した。君は過酷だった運命の果てに、待ち望んでいた存在との再会の約束を果たす。これは幸福のことなんだろう？
|-
|Homura|| No, I have never sought, such happiness.
|ほむら||いいえ、そんな幸福、求めてない
|-
|Kyubey|| Unbelievable, you are letting your own grief increase on purpose... !? What are you thinking, there would not be any time for purification!
|キュゥべえ||そんな…自ら呪いを募らせるなんて、何を考えているんだ？浄化が間に合わなくなるよ！
|-
|Homura|| Even though you would not know that right now. But I became a magic girl with but one wish, 'to save Madoka'. That is why I will do so again this time. I would rather become a witch than reveal Madokas secret any further. I wont let you incubator have any further contact with her.
|ほむら||今のあなたが知るはずもないけれど、私はね、「まどかを救う」ただそれだけの祈りで魔法少女になったのよ。だから今度も同じこと！まどかの秘密が暴かれるくらいなら、私はこのまま、魔女になってやる！もう二度と、インキュベーターにあの子は触らせない！
|-
|Kyubey|| You want to deny salvation with such a reasoning? You want to spend an eternity cursing the world?
|キュゥべえ||君はそんな理由で救済を拒むのかい？このまま、永遠の時を、呪いと共に過ごすつもりなのか？
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|Homura|| It's fine, this labyrinth will become my grave. Both Tomoe Mami and Sakura Kyouko are here, I believe in them.
|ほむら||大丈夫。きっとこの結界が私の死に場所になるでしょう。ここには巴マミも佐倉杏子もいる。彼女たちを信じる
|-
|Kyubey||How can it be! Do you know what It means to die within the isolation field? If you refuse to break the shell and became a witch from within, then you wont be detected by 'law of cycle' and vanish. No one will be able to save you from despair then! And you will once again, lose your chance to reunite with Kaname Madoka.
|キュゥべえ||バカな！この遮断フィールドの内側で死ぬことが何を意味するのか、分かっているのかい？殻を破ることすら拒んで、卵の中で魔女として完成してしまったら、君は「円環の理」に感知されることすらなく破滅する！もう誰も君の魂を絶望から救えない。君は再び鹿目まどかと巡り会うチャンスを永久に失うんだよ！
|-
|Homura|| Shut up!
|ほむら||黙りなさい！
|-
|Kyubey|| This will undoubtly be the worst end for you.... really, why are human beings so illogical.
|キュゥべえ||君にとっても最悪の結末だろうに。まったく、どうして人間の思考はこうも理不尽なんだい？
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|}
:what's the Japanese word or sound for "tsk"? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 15:55, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
:: Probably [[The Beginning Story: Episode 1|...ちツ]], but I don't want to guess. I copied these dialogues from [http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2672577145] - [[User:Prima|Prima]] 16:07, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

File talk:634512.jpg

2013-11-05T05:11:49Z

Hoshiko: Created page with "This confirms that the candy shaped thingy we saw before IS Nagisa's Soul Gem -~~~~"

This confirms that the candy shaped thingy we saw before IS Nagisa's Soul Gem -[[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 05:11, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:The Rebellion Story/Spoiler

2013-10-27T05:52:08Z

Hoshiko:

*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1JGAfTbIQ0 Cake Song]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-ui1DDErMA Cake Song (slowed down 800%)]
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File:Homura is Lucifer (aka anti-madoka).png
File:2 people before and after watched Madoka movie.jpg
File:Shinbo made me do it.jpg
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==Magic creating goddesses==

I am starting to think that the Madoka verse is somehow tied to the Karma/Space-Time/Origin compression of Soul-Bond transdimensional network building through hard recurrence method.
*The continuous process of soul recycling amongst parallel dimensions and timelines is a controlled process guided by a general set of laws designed to dillude karmic accumulation and ensure the eventual achievement of perfec happiness, enlightenment or nirvana.
*However, any given set of rules cannot sustain itself in the face of a continuosly changing environment which inevitably stresses it's inherent flaws and loopholes. This in turn determines that at some point the system will find a rupture point that will lead to an accumulation of karmic energy in a single soul which potentially destabilizes the system toward destruction.
*Under normal circumstances, the system flaw will be corrected because most distortions would fall short of the system's flexibily to work under stress and karmic rebounding would come to eliminate the distortion to preserve the system but there are ways to increase karmic accumulation beyond the system's capacity and henceforth triggering a fall.
*Hard recurrence method occurs when a small rupture is repeated over and over under different parallel worlds to the point it begins forming a network of soul-bond energy which grows and potentializes itself beyond the systems security measures and creates enough "fuel" to create a new sustained soul cycle. It basically becomes a flaw so great that a new system needs to be build and the accumulated energy allows for it to happen.
*Once such situation is reached, the rupture point just needs to be connected to the infinite outer dimensional stream of energy that the network will assimilate a portion of it, compress under the soul which caused the rupture and restructure itself into a new working system improved over the previous flaws. Take note that once that process happens, the soul is restructured to infinitely produce the same amount of energy as the one utilized in it's ascention, the person essentially becomes an extention of the infinite stream governing a part of it's power under it's will.
*By all accounts, said process is irreversible as an infinite source of energy cannot be erased, depleted or returned since the affected soul is an extension of the stream and not someone who borrows it's power.
*In the odd case a turnover of system cycles happens to clash with one another, the soul controlling the previous system will be placed into an obervant/consultive role whereas direct command will be given to the bearer of the new one as to prevent previous improvements from being hampered while guaranteeing the continuation of the system improvement cycle.
*If a peaceful coexistence between the previous and the current system becomes impossible, the innevitable points of rupture that arise will guarantee the ascention of a third party that will sanate said points of rupture and assume authority over the previous conflicting souls.
*The cycles will happen as many times as necessary under different systems until a completely sustainable working model can be achieved and all souls find happiness. --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 16:39, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

==Opinions==
Isn't it better to leave the opinions outside of the actual information page? Such as that part were it says "but what type of love? selfish love" or where it says "Madoka is literally a prisoner of Homura's love"? -[[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 05:52, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

File talk:Madoka rebellion popcorn.jpg

2013-10-11T06:24:21Z

Hoshiko:

[1] Kaname Madoka set [popcorn (strawberry flavor) + dress sticker (Madoka) + Soft Drink (R)]

[2] Homura set [popcorn (black pepper taste) + dress sticker (flame) + Soft Drink (R)]

[3] Tomoe Mami set [popcorn (caramel flavor) + dress sticker (Mami) + Soft Drink (R)]

[4] Kyoko Sakura set [popcorn (chocolate flavor) + dress sticker (apricot) + Soft Drink (R)]

[5] Miki Sayaka set [popcorn (salty paste) + dress sticker (Sayaka) + Soft Drink (R)

[6] Momoe Nagisa set [popcorn (cheese flavor) + dress sticker (Nagisa) + Soft Drink (R)]

:Black Pepper Popcorn? Da hell? --[[User:Ur Didact|I see you Reclaimer]] 01:59, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
::Don't people put pepper on popcorn? And on another note: ''Käse, Käse, wo ist die Käse?''--[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 02:05, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
:::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j38ZeqBJzA wo ist die Käse?]--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 04:27, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
::::Cheese flavor Nagisa, could it be more Charlotte confirmed? [[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 06:24, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T23:21:39Z

Hoshiko: Added Trivia section for console confusion and tweaked.

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{{Nihongo|'''''Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram'''''|魔法少女まどか☆マギカ - The Battle Pentagram|Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika - The Battle Pentagram}} is an upcoming PlayStation Vita 3D Action game developed by Artdink and published by Namco Bandai. The original scenario is supervised by Magica Quartet. The game will be released in Japan in winter 2013.

== Gameplay Features ==
The game will feature daytime and nighttime sequences. At daytime, players can talk with the magical girls and strengthen their bonds, while at nighttime players battle witches, the results of which can affect your bonds with the magical girls.

The following characters are confirmed to appear:
* [[Madoka_Kaname|Madoka Kaname]]: Shoots an arrow of light. In a pinch, Kyubey will come to assist.
* [[Homura_Akemi|Homura Akemi]]: Manipulates time and wields firearms.
* [[Mami_Tomoe|Mami Tomoe]]: Uses ribbon magic and guns for a long-distance advantage.
* [[Sayaka_Miki|Sayaka Miki]]: Attacks in short-distance with swords. Has high mobility and attack speed.
* [[Kyoko_Sakura|Kyoko Sakura]]: Wields a spear for short to mid-range attacks.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Madoka Vita.jpg | Dengeki Playstation Vol.550
File:BattlePentagramOW.jpg | Dengeki Playstation Vol.550
File:7595cc38.jpg | Weekly Famitsu Issue 2013-09-26. The PS3 category was later stated to be an error.
File:D68f41d0.jpg | In-game screencap
</gallery>

==Trivia==
* At the time the game's announcement by Dengeki and Famitsu, the console in which The Battle Pentagram would be release was subject to confusion. Famitsu incorrectly listed the game under the PS3 label. They have since issued an apology for the mistake.[http://www.famitsu.com/news/201309/12039771.html]

==External links==
*[http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-11611160699.html Announcement on Sinobi]

Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T23:14:59Z

Hoshiko: /* Gallery */

[[File:D68f41d0.jpg|thumb]]
{{Nihongo|'''''Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram'''''|魔法少女まどか☆マギカ - The Battle Pentagram|Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika - The Battle Pentagram}} is a console Action game developed by Artdink and published by Namco Bandai. The original scenario is supervised by Magica Quartet. The game will be released in Japan in winter 2013.

It is currently unclear which console the game will be released on. Famitsu reports it will be released on the PlayStation 3, while Dengeki Playstation claims it will be released on the PS Vita.

== Gameplay Features ==
The game will feature daytime and nighttime sequences. At daytime, players can talk with the magical girls and strengthen their bonds, while at nighttime players battle witches, the results of which can affect your bonds with the magical girls.

The following characters are confirmed to appear:
* [[Madoka_Kaname|Madoka Kaname]]: Shoots an arrow of light. In a pinch, Kyubey will come to assist.
* [[Homura_Akemi|Homura Akemi]]: Manipulates time and wields firearms.
* [[Mami_Tomoe|Mami Tomoe]]: Uses ribbon magic and guns for a long-distance advantage.
* [[Sayaka_Miki|Sayaka Miki]]: Attacks in short-distance with swords. Has high mobility and attack speed.
* [[Kyoko_Sakura|Kyoko Sakura]]: Wields a spear for short to mid-range attacks.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Madoka Vita.jpg | Dengeki Playstation Vol.550
File:BattlePentagramOW.jpg | Dengeki Playstation Vol.550
File:7595cc38.jpg | Weekly Famitsu Issue 2013-09-26
File:D68f41d0.jpg | In-game screencap
</gallery>

==External links==
*[http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-11611160699.html Announcement on Sinobi]

Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T23:14:11Z

Hoshiko: /* Gallery */

[[File:D68f41d0.jpg|thumb]]
{{Nihongo|'''''Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram'''''|魔法少女まどか☆マギカ - The Battle Pentagram|Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika - The Battle Pentagram}} is a console Action game developed by Artdink and published by Namco Bandai. The original scenario is supervised by Magica Quartet. The game will be released in Japan in winter 2013.

It is currently unclear which console the game will be released on. Famitsu reports it will be released on the PlayStation 3, while Dengeki Playstation claims it will be released on the PS Vita.

== Gameplay Features ==
The game will feature daytime and nighttime sequences. At daytime, players can talk with the magical girls and strengthen their bonds, while at nighttime players battle witches, the results of which can affect your bonds with the magical girls.

The following characters are confirmed to appear:
* [[Madoka_Kaname|Madoka Kaname]]: Shoots an arrow of light. In a pinch, Kyubey will come to assist.
* [[Homura_Akemi|Homura Akemi]]: Manipulates time and wields firearms.
* [[Mami_Tomoe|Mami Tomoe]]: Uses ribbon magic and guns for a long-distance advantage.
* [[Sayaka_Miki|Sayaka Miki]]: Attacks in short-distance with swords. Has high mobility and attack speed.
* [[Kyoko_Sakura|Kyoko Sakura]]: Wields a spear for short to mid-range attacks.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Madoka Vita.jpg | Dengeki Playstation Vol.550
File:7595cc38.jpg | Weekly Famitsu Issue 2013-09-26
File:BattlePentagramOW.jpg | Weekly Famitsu Issue 2013-09-26
File:D68f41d0.jpg | In-game screencap
</gallery>

==External links==
*[http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-11611160699.html Announcement on Sinobi]

File:BattlePentagramOW.jpg

2013-09-11T23:13:16Z

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2013-09-11T08:33:58Z

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Talk:Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T08:31:05Z

Hoshiko: /* PS3 or Vita? */

== PS3 or Vita? ==
Is it PS3 or Vita? I see a big "PS3" on the page photo...--[[User:Kerigis|Kerigis]] 07:53, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:Wait, looking at the images, judging from the paragraphs and the side of the page... it's PS3 AND Vita?! Holy Madokami's ribbons... --[[User:Kerigis|Kerigis]] 08:06, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:: I'm sure that it's Vita, one of the screenshots in the Dengenki magazine (the one that says PS3) has L and R buttons on it, meaning that's Vita... ;_; [[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 08:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:::But why would it be indexed in PS3? Unless Dengeki blundered hard, causing all this mess.--[[User:Kerigis|Kerigis]] 08:23, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
::::If it were for both Famitsu would have said something :( I'm sad because I was planning to get a PS3 soon... (late to the party I know) but I would never ever get a Vita Dx[[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 08:31, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T08:30:47Z

Hoshiko: /* PS3 or Vita? */

== PS3 or Vita? ==
Is it PS3 or Vita? I see a big "PS3" on the page photo...--[[User:Kerigis|Kerigis]] 07:53, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:Wait, looking at the images, judging from the paragraphs and the side of the page... it's PS3 AND Vita?! Holy Madokami's ribbons... --[[User:Kerigis|Kerigis]] 08:06, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:: I'm sure that it's Vita, one of the screenshots in the Dengenki magazine (the one that says PS3) has L and R buttons on it, meaning that's Vita... ;_; [[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 08:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:::But why would it be indexed in PS3? Unless Dengeki blundered hard, causing all this mess.--[[User:Kerigis|Kerigis]] 08:23, 11 September 2013 (UTC)If it were for both Famitsu would have said something :( I'm sad because I was planning to get a PS3 soon... (late to the party I know) but I would never ever get a Vita Dx

Talk:Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T08:15:39Z

Hoshiko: /* PS3 or Vita? */

Talk:Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T08:15:31Z

Hoshiko: /* PS3 or Vita? */

Talk:Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T08:15:00Z

Hoshiko: /* PS3 or Vita? */

Talk:Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T08:14:47Z

Hoshiko: /* PS3 or Vita? */

Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T07:25:48Z

Hoshiko: /* Gallery */

{{Nihongo|'''''Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram'''''|魔法少女まどか☆マギカ - The Battle Pentagram|Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika - The Battle Pentagram}} is a PS Vita 3D Action game developed by Artdink and published by Namco Bandai. The original scenario is supervised by Magica Quartet. The game will be released in Japan in winter 2013.

== Gameplay Features ==
The game will feature daytime and nighttime sequences. At daytime, players can talk with the magical girls and strengthen their bonds, while at nighttime players battle witches, the results of which can affect your bonds with the magical girls.

The following characters are confirmed to appear:
* [[Madoka_Kaname|Madoka Kaname]]: Shoots an arrow of light. In a pinch, Kyubey will come to assist.
* [[Homura_Akemi|Homura Akemi]]: Manipulates time and wields firearms.
* [[Mami_Tomoe|Mami Tomoe]]: Uses ribbon magic and guns for a long-distance advantage.
* [[Sayaka_Miki|Sayaka Miki]]: Attacks in short-distance with swords. Has high mobility and attack speed.
* [[Kyoko_Sakura|Kyoko Sakura]]: Wields a spear for short to mid-range attacks.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Madoka Vita.jpg | Reveal of the game
File:7595cc38.jpg |
File:D68f41d0.jpg |
</gallery>

==External links==
*[http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-11611160699.html Announcement on Sinobi]

File:D68f41d0.jpg

2013-09-11T07:24:41Z

Hoshiko:

File:7595cc38.jpg

2013-09-11T07:24:18Z

Hoshiko:

Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T07:23:04Z

Hoshiko: /* Gallery */

{{Nihongo|'''''Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram'''''|魔法少女まどか☆マギカ - The Battle Pentagram|Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika - The Battle Pentagram}} is a PS Vita 3D Action game developed by Artdink and published by Namco Bandai. The original scenario is supervised by Magica Quartet. The game will be released in Japan in winter 2013.

== Gameplay Features ==
The game will feature daytime and nighttime sequences. At daytime, players can talk with the magical girls and strengthen their bonds, while at nighttime players battle witches, the results of which can affect your bonds with the magical girls.

The following characters are confirmed to appear:
* [[Madoka_Kaname|Madoka Kaname]]: Shoots an arrow of light. In a pinch, Kyubey will come to assist.
* [[Homura_Akemi|Homura Akemi]]: Manipulates time and wields firearms.
* [[Mami_Tomoe|Mami Tomoe]]: Uses ribbon magic and guns for a long-distance advantage.
* [[Sayaka_Miki|Sayaka Miki]]: Attacks in short-distance with swords. Has high mobility and attack speed.
* [[Kyoko_Sakura|Kyoko Sakura]]: Wields a spear for short to mid-range attacks.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Madoka Vita.jpg | Reveal of the game
</gallery>

==External links==
*[http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-11611160699.html Announcement on Sinobi]

Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T07:21:34Z

Hoshiko: /* Gallery */

{{Nihongo|'''''Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram'''''|魔法少女まどか☆マギカ - The Battle Pentagram|Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika - The Battle Pentagram}} is a PS Vita 3D Action game developed by Artdink and published by Namco Bandai. The original scenario is supervised by Magica Quartet. The game will be released in Japan in winter 2013.

== Gameplay Features ==
The game will feature daytime and nighttime sequences. At daytime, players can talk with the magical girls and strengthen their bonds, while at nighttime players battle witches, the results of which can affect your bonds with the magical girls.

The following characters are confirmed to appear:
* [[Madoka_Kaname|Madoka Kaname]]: Shoots an arrow of light. In a pinch, Kyubey will come to assist.
* [[Homura_Akemi|Homura Akemi]]: Manipulates time and wields firearms.
* [[Mami_Tomoe|Mami Tomoe]]: Uses ribbon magic and guns for a long-distance advantage.
* [[Sayaka_Miki|Sayaka Miki]]: Attacks in short-distance with swords. Has high mobility and attack speed.
* [[Kyoko_Sakura|Kyoko Sakura]]: Wields a spear for short to mid-range attacks.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Madoka Vita.jpg
</gallery>

==External links==
*[http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-11611160699.html Announcement on Sinobi]

Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T07:21:23Z

Hoshiko:

{{Nihongo|'''''Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram'''''|魔法少女まどか☆マギカ - The Battle Pentagram|Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika - The Battle Pentagram}} is a PS Vita 3D Action game developed by Artdink and published by Namco Bandai. The original scenario is supervised by Magica Quartet. The game will be released in Japan in winter 2013.

== Gameplay Features ==
The game will feature daytime and nighttime sequences. At daytime, players can talk with the magical girls and strengthen their bonds, while at nighttime players battle witches, the results of which can affect your bonds with the magical girls.

The following characters are confirmed to appear:
* [[Madoka_Kaname|Madoka Kaname]]: Shoots an arrow of light. In a pinch, Kyubey will come to assist.
* [[Homura_Akemi|Homura Akemi]]: Manipulates time and wields firearms.
* [[Mami_Tomoe|Mami Tomoe]]: Uses ribbon magic and guns for a long-distance advantage.
* [[Sayaka_Miki|Sayaka Miki]]: Attacks in short-distance with swords. Has high mobility and attack speed.
* [[Kyoko_Sakura|Kyoko Sakura]]: Wields a spear for short to mid-range attacks.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Madoka Vita.jpg.jpg
</gallery>

==External links==
*[http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-11611160699.html Announcement on Sinobi]

File:Madoka Vita.jpg

2013-09-11T07:19:41Z

Hoshiko:

Madoka Magica - The Battle Pentagram

2013-09-11T07:18:35Z

Hoshiko:

{{Nihongo|'''''Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Battle Pentagram'''''|魔法少女まどか☆マギカ - The Battle Pentagram|Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika - The Battle Pentagram}} is a PS Vita 3D Action game developed by Artdink and published by Namco Bandai. The original scenario is supervised by Magica Quartet. The game will be released in Japan in winter 2013.

== Gameplay Features ==
The game will feature daytime and nighttime sequences. At daytime, players can talk with the magical girls and strengthen their bonds, while at nighttime players battle witches, the results of which can affect your bonds with the magical girls.

The following characters are confirmed to appear:
* [[Madoka_Kaname|Madoka Kaname]]: Shoots an arrow of light. In a pinch, Kyubey will come to assist.
* [[Homura_Akemi|Homura Akemi]]: Manipulates time and wields firearms.
* [[Mami_Tomoe|Mami Tomoe]]: Uses ribbon magic and guns for a long-distance advantage.
* [[Sayaka_Miki|Sayaka Miki]]: Attacks in short-distance with swords. Has high mobility and attack speed.
* [[Kyoko_Sakura|Kyoko Sakura]]: Wields a spear for short to mid-range attacks.

==External links==
*[http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-11611160699.html Announcement on Sinobi]

Community:Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story: In-Depth Look

2013-07-23T00:17:32Z

Hoshiko: /* Episode 7 */

{{Note|This article was originally posted on [http://yuis-musings.tumblr.com/post/33573441213/madoka-magica-movie-1-in-depth-look yuis-musings.tumblr.com] on October 15th, 2012. It has been copied here for purposes of archiving and backup.}}

As a huge fan of the Puella Magi Madoka Magica anime series, I was ecstatic when I heard that [[Madoka Magica Movie|movies were being produced]]. Despite the fact that they were to be a retelling of the TV series in two parts, I felt it would still be exciting to see in the theaters. This opportunity was thanks to the fact that I moved to Japan from the United States a couple months before the movies were to be released; I made it a priority to get tickets to see them.

I was one of those fans that was able to see the first movie on opening day, 6 October 2012. Just before the movie started, I decided to try and remember any significant differences and document them later. As I have watched the series many, many times on Blu-Ray, I felt this was something I could handle.

So, I am going mainly off of memory and the fact that I re-watched the 1st movie again on 13 October 2012, when the 2nd movie premiered. I wish I had images to refer to, but I was not about to try and illegally film the movie.

I will be highlighting changes or differences as seen in the 1st movie in comparison with the Blu-Ray version of the series. The 1st movie covers events that happen from episode 1-8. Granted, for those that have seen the series, there is no real change to how the movie plot proceeds; if you’ve seen the series, there are no spoilers. If you have not, well, then you have been warned.

Generally, most if not all the scenes were redrawn/reanimated and/or have wider angles. Most of the backgrounds were given more detail, color, depth and contrast. Plus, a lot of the voice acting was redone for the main characters. I will not be going over all these changes unless they are significant. If scenes were cut, it is most likely for time, even though the movie runs for 2 hours and 20 minutes.

This was a rather difficult, but fun project to do, as I rewatched the first 8 episodes to recount any differences I remembered from the movie and take note of those worth noting.

This effort was made especially for those English-speaking Madoka fans that cannot see the movies in Japan, or cannot make a trip to a “local” theater in their country that may be playing the movies. Don’t say I never give anything back!

That being said, this post is extremely long and text-heavy, so may not be for those with short attention spans. Even so, enjoy!

== Episode 1 ==

* As the slightly modified curtain rises in the movie, we are greeted with a modified title slate. Presumably the date on the bottom is changed to 2012, instead of 2011 as was in the series version.
* The countdown sequence has also been changed, to the symbols around the numbers being more circular and modern.
* The immediate and significant difference here is that we do not see Madoka’s dream sequence involving Homura fighting Walpurgisnacht,
** Instead see Madoka greeting her dad in the garden, asking her to go help Tatsuya wake up mom.
* As Madoka’s mom (Junko) leaves, the wall behind her has a static picture frame, rather the LCD picture frame that has the image change.
* As Madoka runs out of the house for school, the music for the movie OP Luminous by ClariS starts, which leads into a new OP animation. Try as I might, I may mix up the sequence of these in the opening animation.

== Opening Animation ==

* It features Madoka and Homura in white dresses, lying in what seems to be water, reaching for each other’s hands with smiles on their faces. They then dissolve into bubbles, followed by a wide shot of what seems to be Ultimate Madoka or Madoka in a very long white dress with her hands together and her head down. The Homura is shown: her part zooms out from her right eye, as the background fills with gears, and a clock behind her.
** The scene with Madoka and Homura reaching out for each other and then dissolving repeats twice.
* We then see scenes of Madoka as a baby, growing up several stages such as crawling, walking, going to school for the first time (a young Sayaka and Kyousuke are seen here too), to when her mother was pregnant with her little brother (Tatsuya) and her playing with him.
* There is an adorable scene of Madoka and Homura sitting in chairs in the middle of a green field. Madoka butts her head up against Homura’s, which surprises Homura, but she happily returns the gesture back. Such cute skinship between them! [[File:Movie OP Homumado.gif|center]]
** (Shame on you if you felt it was some sort of yuri fantasy. This type of behavior is common between friends in Japan, and is nothing sexual.)
* The five girls have cycling close-ups as the camera spins around to each of them. Then we get a close up of each girl followed by a wide shot of them after Madoka. Then Mami in her apartment. Kyoko in her dad’s chruch. Homura in hospital.
* Sayaka does not have such a scene.
* Finally, we see a wide shot of Madoka running as the background literally flips between reality and witch barriers and then to the landscape after Walpurgisnacht appears.
* The final scene is Madoka in a white dress taking her ribbons out of her hair, as she floats on top of water and clouds quickly fly by. We get a nice shot of her smiling face and the wind blowing through her hair.
* All in all, a very pretty OP sequence to watch.

== Episode 1 (Continued) ==

* After the OP, Madoka runs up to Hitomi and Sayaka. The backgrounds here are really improved. The way to school is filled with more trees and has an increased sense of wilderness with the river nearby. Colors seem more vivid and there is more contrast.
** When Hitomi coughs in embarrassment as Sayaka harasses Madoka, they are much farther from school than shown in the series, as they are still on the path by the river.
* After the teacher’s rant about hard or soft-boiled eggs, Sayaka’s exclamation about how the transfer student should had been introduced first is more pronounced and her expression is more dramatic.
* Homura’s entrance has a very smooth and dynamic redrawn camera angle pan up from her legs up to her face, showing off more budget that Shaft had for this movie. It is not just a simple static pan up as seen in the series.
** When the curious students ask Homura questions, she does not respond to them.
* Before and after Homura asks Madoka to “take her to the nurses office”, Shaft takes the time to really show how extravagant the school is. The backgrounds are much more dynamic, showing more detail is shown in the flooring, the glass between the hall and classrooms and along the ceiling.
** It also more apparent the students are staring at Homura. When Madoka says something that bother’s Homura, such as calling her by her surname, her footsteps echo loudly.
* There is no scene of Homura performing her extraordinary physical talents on the school grounds. Kyuubey is also not shown hiding in a plant.
** Instead, we go to Madoka, Sayaka and Hitomi in the restaurant after school.
* The restaurant is much more detailed, and the group is sitting at table rather than a booth as seen in the series. The background behind them as they talk shows the interior of the mall rather than windows and blank walls. This carries a more “inhabited” feeling. Even though we did not see it, Madoka still makes her comment about how she felt she met Homura in a dream, and Sayaka is the only one that laughs at it.
** When Madoka and Sayaka leave for the CD store, there is no scene of Homura pursuing Kyuubey.
** In the CD store’s backgrounds are enhanced and the store is advanced with touch screens, as the girls demonstrate when they choose a song.
** The song that Madoka listens to in the store is Luminous, instead of Connect.
** When Homura meets Madoka after she finds Kyuubey, the ambient light is predominately red.
** When Sayaka comes to Madoka’s rescue, she shoots the fire extinguisher from the right side instead of the left. The extinguisher fumes seem to be more substantial. She also throws the extinguisher at Homura in a more animated and violent manner.
* As the witch barrier appears, we are greeted with a sequence of several doors opening into each other.
* Gertrud’s witch barrier appears much more detailed, and creepy. As the familiars close in on the girls, a different BGM plays.
** Interesting note: When Mami first appear and walks in behind Madoka and Sayaka, she says “That was close. But you’re safe now”, her mouth does not move in either the series or in the movie.
* Mami’s transformation sequence is reanimated. It is smoother, and in a more elegant fashion that reflects Mami’s personality. She actually kicks off her shoes. Then her stockings change, following her skirt and top. Her beret and plume burst onto her head, making a trail of flower petals or ribbon pieces. Her corset then wraps around her from behind. Her boots appear and then her ribbon flies in and ties around her neck. This ends with a close up of her face, giving the camera a wink.

== Episode 2 ==

* Instead of Mami giving her self-introduction in a flashback of her series transformation animation and subsequent battle, she gives it as they all go to Mami’s apartment. We are also treated to improved and detailed shots of the city landscape.
* Mami's room has slightly different furniture, and she is using a different tea set (with strawberry pattern).
* There is no scene of Madoka waking up thinking it was a dream again. Also, there is no scene with Madoka and her mom telling her to call if she will be home late. There is no remark about Kyuubey being invisible to others.
* Madoka does not recall her meeting with Mami as a flashback, so mom never says what she would wish for if she was given the chance.
* Mami’s room has more ambient lighting from the sunset than in the series.
* As Mami explains the task given to all Puella Magi, the BGM is different.
** The conversation about how witches work is slightly truncated.
** Note: Mami’s head-in-lap reflection from the glass table exists both in series and movie.
* After the talk of wishes, we see the scene where Sayaka takes a CD to Kyousuke and we learn about his injury. We also see how Sayaka admires Kyosuke’s violin playing. This does not happen until the start of episode 3 in the series.
** This scene in the movie shows many chairs in Kyosuke’s room, where the series version had no chairs minus the one Sayaka sits in. This scene takes the place of the following scenes:
** The conversation between Madoka, Sayaka and Hitomi the following morning does not occur.
** No “yuri undertones” as to why Madoka and Sayaka are staring at each other while talking through Kyuubey thanks to Hitomi.
** The situation where Kyuubey is at school does not occur. It is not made clear that they can communicate telepathically.
** The conversation between Madoka, Sayaka and Mami about Homura being a Puella magi and why seems to be against them does not occur. As such, the discussion about rewards of defeating witches is absent.
** The scene where Madoka is doodling in her notebook with Sayaka falling asleep in class does not occur.
* After the Sayaka/Kyousuke scene and some more shots of the city, we go to the school rooftop where the two girls discuss wishes. Some dialogue is omitted as being redundant.
** In the series, this is where we get a glimpse of Kyousuke silhouette in the hospital.
* The background for the rooftop is changed considerably. The side fences are much taller and the entire area is more decorated and detailed, also with more places to sit.
** Instead of being pure white, the structures on the roof appear more off-white. The changes also allow for detailed shadows to be cast across the roof.
** Though the side fences are now much more solid, the sound of the metal net rattling in the wind is still present.
* When Homura appears on the roof, the BGM is slightly different, reflecting the intensity of the situation.
** When Madoka asks Homura what her wish was, Homura is more visibly bothered by it.
** When Mami is overlooking this encounter, we only see her once and from a distance.
** The subsequent scene that follows the events in the morning with Hitomi after school does not occur. As such, the school girls do not ask Homura to go somewhere with them after classes.
** '''Movie Consistency Error:''' The meeting between Mami and her two Puella magi prospects, Madoka shows her doodles of costumes as her way of being “prepared.” At first, all the drawings are monochrome, when it switches to a wide angle; the largest doodle of Madoka is colored in. When the scene changes again, it is monochrome again.
** Madoka’s face does not glow red in embarrassment, but her blushing is more subtle.
* As they are witch hunting, the conversation about how Mami should had finished off the witch yesterday, but wanted to protect Madoka and Sayaka instead is removed.
* As the distraught woman walks into the ruined building, the entrance is more decrepit and the German lines from “Faust” are harder to read. Later, when the girls walk by this same wall, the lines seem to be completely different and unreadable as a real language.
** After Mami saves the woman from committing witch-assisted suicide, the Witch’s Kiss on her neck is more detailed and “shines” with dark sparkles.
** As they enter the barrier, they go through three doors as an intro.
** The BGM as they go through the barrier is changed to the one when Mami fights Charlotte in the series.
** They go through several single doors before reaching Gertrud. Perhaps reflecting how the stages in the PSP game operated.
** However, right before they reach Gertrud, they go through three doors.
* The area where Mami fights Gertrud is more detailed, such as more roses on the ground and detailing on the walls.
** The BGM as Mami fights Gertrud is the instrumental Quattro version of Magia.
** Mami’s battle animations are smoother, and overall, the fight is a bit shorter than in the series.
** Mami makes no mention of grief seeds as a reward as it would reference a past conversation that did not happen in the movie.
** The background of the confrontation scene with Homura is darkened.
** There scene where Madoka is coloring her doodles at her desk at home is not shown.

== Episode 3 ==

* The entire sequence where Mami fights the familiar Ulla, where she explains her wish when she became a Puella Magi, where Mami advises Sayaka to not make a wish she might regret is cut from the movie.
* After Kyuubey tells Madoka has the potential become a super powerful Puella Magi, the scene where her mom comes home drunk after work and needs help, along with the subsequent scene of her dad telling her how her mom treasures the life she has and is, in sorts, living her dream, is not shown.
* When Kyuubey sees the grief seed on the pillar by the bicycles, Madoka and Sayaka run up to it, and have to navigate through the bikes a bit. In the series, they seem to run just close, but are shown as if they did not run to it at all.
** The grief seed shares the same characteristics as the witch’s kiss in that it has “Dark sparkles” as the barrier starts to grow on the pillar.
** Sayaka’s dialogue about how she can’t leave the grief seed alone here is somewhat more determined.
** The backgrounds for the hospital during these scenes in the movie are different.
** When Madoka returns with Mami, Mami is visibly more upset with Madoka and Sayaka about how they went on without her.
** The camera angle where Madoka and Mami enter the barrier is shown from the side, similar to when they went into Gertrud’s barrier. We are also shown more doors when they first enter.
** The BGMs during these scenes are subtle, but it builds better atmosphere.
* When Mami traps Homura in the ribbons, Homura sounds more desperate in her pleas for them to not fight this witch.
** Madoka's voice reflects more fear as they go through the barrier.
** On the bridge with the hanging headless bodies, the BGM changes to a somber piano and violin piece.
** Mami’s hand does not clip through her skirt as we watch her walking from Madoka’s POV after she lets go of her hand.
** They (thankfully) redrew the scene where Mami and Madoka make a promise for her to join her Puella magi team.
** When Mami calls this a “Special day” and is about to transform, Madoka sounds more delighted, than frightened in the series.
* As Mami transforms with another new transformation, which is longer than the quick one in the series, our ears are treated to a new version of Credens Justitiam, but with lyrics in Japanese. ''[the song has been released as "Mirai" on Kalafina's "Hikari Furu" single --[[User:KFYatek|kFYatek]]]''
** During her fight with the familiars, which has better animation, we see her form her dual arm cannons. They also go back to the TV version where Mami has one leg up on the syringe.
** Mami does not say anything about her body being light, and only says, with total confidence “I’m not afraid of anything anymore… because I’m not alone anymore.”
* As Mami fights Charlotte in doll form, the BGM is different, which sounds like a witch playfully mocking the girls, building up perfectly to the point where Mami meets her end.
** As Charlotte ends Mami, we see her flower soul gem on her head shatter.
** Homura’s fight with Charlotte also has a new more fitting BGM.
** When Homura plants bombs that Charlotte eats, there are 3-4 of them on her tongue (only one in the series). Once Charlotte starts exploding multiple times, Homura does not throw explosive debris at her like in the series. As Charlotte swallowed more than one bomb in the movie, this makes sense.
* Sayaka’s cries for Homura to give the grief seed back to Mami are much more emotional. To match, Homura’s lines are much sterner. The girls are more shocked at what happened to Mami.
** Kyuubey face is redrawn so it does not look completely disproportionate after Homura leaves. It still didn’t look right for some reason.

== Episode 4 ==

* The opening scene where Sayaka goes to see Kyousuke and she seriously considers using her wish for him, echoing what Mami warned her about is not in the movie.
* The scenes where the egg yolk of her breakfast reminds Madoka of Mami’s death, and where Sayaka forbids Madoka from talking about it on the way to school do not occur.
* During the lesson in school, we are zoomed into the word “ENOUGH” just to see “UGH” before it zooms out to show the entire board.
* The roof scene, again redrawn, where Madoka changes her mind to become a Puella magi despite her promise to Mami, is more somber, and has several different angles throughout the ending conversation with Kyuubey.
* Sayaka makes no mention of Mami being a kind person, but instead goes right on to ask Kyuubey if another Puella magi will come.
* After the scene ends, Madoka’s “I’m sorry” to Mami is more emotional, and echoes longer in the theater.
* When Madoka visits Mami’s apartment to leave the notebook behind, the BGM is more somber. Again, Madoka’s crying seems even more emotional than in the series.
* When they meet outside the apartment, Homura does not say Madoka’s name during their conversation.
* As they continue their conversation while walking together, the background of the industrial section is much darker and filled with red ambient lighting. This suggests this takes place later than it did in the series. Homura and Madoka walk in near darkness.
** However, we lose the effect of the sunlight being blocked by Madoka’s hair on and off as they walk, as it was shown on the Blu-Ray series.
** The BGM as they talk is very somber.
** Once Madoka stops walking to cry, Homura seems more concerned about her.
* Next scene is where Sayaka is with Kyousuke in his hospital room and he is listening to more music. The BGM is a sad sounding violin, which would have made sense in the first place for the series.
* As Madoka is walking by herself, there are no other shadows of people around her, opposite to how it was in the series.
** The witch’s kiss on Hitomi’s neck, and the other people, matches the standard set from earlier in the movie.
** Madoka does not overreact when she realizes she doesn’t have Homura’s cellphone number.
** The floor of the factory they all gather at is either see-through or very well-polished.
** A very spooky and chilling chorus BGM plays at this part.
** As the people are about to mix bleach and ammonia, there is no flashback to where Madoka’s mom tells her never to mix them.
** When Hitomi initially stops Madoka from interfering, her voice isn’t as stern as in the series.
** Once Madoka locks herself into the room, there is more detail shown in the background.
** As the witch barrier propagates, carousel music starts to play and some undead horses are seen to run by rather close to Madoka.
* The classical music, accompanied with some playful sound effects is heard throughout this witch fight with Kirsten.
** There is more detail in the walls of the witch barrier.
** Sayaka is the only Puella magi to have a significant change to her costume design. On her left side of her head, her two hairclips change into a fortissimo symbol (ff) when she transforms.
* When Kyousuke wakes up to find his arm is healed, there is no BGM.
* The scene where Kyoko shows up and is talking to Kyuubey in the tower about how she’ll beat the hell out of the new girl does not occur.

== Episode 5 ==

* The opening scene where Sayaka makes her wish and contract is not shown yet.
* The following scene with Hitomi explaining to Madoka and Sayaka how she doesn’t remember what happened the night before and how Sayaka says she should had stayed home instead, does not happen.
** Instead, it is the scene where we see a happy Sayaka acting proud about what’s she done, and how she will become an ally of justice.
** BGM is different during this scene.
* Next, Sayaka visits a partially healed Kyousuke. Here we see many chairs in the room in both in the series and movie.
** There is no consistency though, as the chairs that appear in each are different.
** As they are going up the roof in the elevator, the smile Sayaka gives Kyousuke is slightly delayed.
* Once Kyousuke starts playing Ave Maria on his violin, Sayaka closes her eyes, and we see a flashback of her making the contract with Kyuubey on the very same spot on the roof just a day before.
** There is more depth to the rose garden sections and smoother animation.
** During this, she makes her “I’ll never regret this” speech to Mami in thought.
** The silhouette of Sayaka against the sun is also against a fence… which oddly looks like a prison. There was no fence shown here in the series.
** Note: When Kyousuke stops playing the song, the BGM continues on. Just like in the series.
* Kyoko is seen watching this event from afar in the tower, and is seen eating a thin cream filled cracker/cookie. In the series, she is eating a waffle.
** Also is the first scene we see Kyoko in the movie.
* The scene where Madoka and Homura are talking in the restaurant about becoming friends with Sayaka does not occur.
** This also means we don’t see Homura make the Mami-loses-her-head reference with taking the lid off her cup (which she never drinks from… even though she tries to). Seeing that Homura tells Madoka to give up on Sayaka several times in the series, this scene is trivial.
** Instead, we see Sayaka in her room, psyching herself up to go hunt for witches. Kyuubey is seen lounging nearby, but in a slightly different position.
* Sayaka’s room is a bit darker and more detailed.
** When she meets Madoka outside, and grabs her hand, all ambient noise is cut. This is exemplifying that her hands are indeed shaking despite her air of confidence.
** Kyuubey does not give his speech about how dangerous it is, and how he talks to Madoka only about her own plans should Sayaka need help, and we don’t see the scene of them walking around during this witch hunt.
** Instead, we see a nice shot of Sayaka’s soul gem glowing brightly right before they go into an alley and spot the crazy crayon familiar, Anja.
** Once the familiar shows up, the BGM turns a little more intense.
* Sayaka’s transformation takes place underwater and she seems to swim though it in a fashion that a mermaid swims.
** Her transformation is rather modest compared to the series version. She seems to pull her sword on out her body as it materializes.
** Here we can see her hairclips changing into the fortissimo symbol.
* Kyoko’s tone when saying that it is just a familiar and won’t drop grief seeds is more harsh and berating of the new Puella magi.
** Kyoko is seen eating a bear taiyaki instead of the tradition fish taiyaki shown in the series.
** When Kyoko blocks Sayaka’s initial attack, there are more sustained sparks and Kyoko appears to not struggle at all.
** This entire fight sequence has more camera shake during action scenes. Also, the visuals on all the characters are more dynamic and flowing, and do not appear so flat. Shading and shadows in the alleyway helped improve that.
** Kyoko’s initial blow to Sayaka makes it apparent that she hits her head on the water pipe.
** When Sayaka blocks Kyoko’s spear point-to-point, Kyoko is visually much more irritated. There is also no big energy ball that is created with the contact of weapons.
** The BGM is more fitting for a battle like this, semi-metal guitar.
** Homura’s entrance into the fight is less dramatic, but still does her signature hair flip.

== Episode 6 ==

* After the battle, once Homura walks away, Kyuubey does not make any suggestion that he might know something about Homura.
** But we do see a few water droplets suspended in midair, and then falling suddenly to match the water pouring out the broken water pipe.
* There is no scene of Sayaka cleansing her soul gem with Kirsten’s grief seed, so we don’t learn that Kyuubey “eats” grief seeds, we don’t get the clue that a soul gem must remain clean, and Kyuubey doesn’t tell Sayaka that Madoka has great potential to be a Puella magi.
** Instead, we go the scene of Kyoko playing Dog Drug Reinforcement. The song is still the remix of “Connect” as played in the series.
** Kyoko is eating pocky, but it is strawberry flavored.
* The scene with Sayaka returning to place she fought Kyoko to find remnants of the familiar and her yelling at Madoka about how she can be friends with Puella magi that are just after grief seeds, does not occur.
* The next scene where Madoka goes downstairs when she hears her mom come home from work is slight different. In the movie, Madoka just goes downstairs and asks her mom if it is okay to talk.
** The BGM is different.
* Their conversation about making mistakes is slightly condensed and some lines are rearranged, but it still has the same message.
* When Sayaka is told Kyousuke is discharged from the hospital, she doesn’t respond. Next scene, she is already at his front gate, and hears him playing his violin. In the movie, these events do not happen as fast as it appears in the series.
** When Kyoko shows up she is eating the same thing in both movie and series (churro-thing).
** The conversation between Kyoko and Sayaka is a little more intense as far as delivery goes.
* When Madoka is doing her homework on her computer, she is not in her school uniform, but in casual clothes (makes sense to me). The color of her laser keyboard is blue in the movie. It was orange in the series.
* Kyoko’s transformation consists of fire, a cartwheel kick and some fancy action moves with her spear. Her transformation is centered on her spear, as it materializes first out of her soul gem. All the while, she has what appears to be green tea pocky between her lips.
** We would get another Sayaka transformation but…
* When Madoka grabs Sayaka’s gem out of her hands, there is a very cool 3D zoom out she does so.
* When Homura sees this and vanishes, you can see her targe/shield glow purple just before she does vanish.
* When Kyoko grabs Sayaka and says she’s dead, the BGM turns more serious. This continues as Homura chases after the truck with Sayaka’s gem on it and into the next scenes.
* Sayaka’s body is laid on a rather ornamental part of the bridge and her body looks more lifeless due to the position of her hands and legs.
* Kyoko grabs Kyuubey’s head from the middle, not one of its ears like in the series. In one shot, it looks like she’s petting it…
* Kyoko’s expression makes her look even more furious about this than in the series.

== Episode 7 ==

* The scene where Sayaka yells at Kyuubey for never mentioning the issues regarding soul gems does not happen yet, and is modified. Also, she is seen walking home and throwing her soul gem onto the desk before confronting Kyuubey. This does not happen in the movie.
* Next scene in the movie is the next day at school and Sayaka is absent. Madoka speaks with Homura on the roof about the details on the soul gems. The conversation takes place close to one of the towers on the roof, instead of by the side, next to the fence, as in the series.
** The revamped roof and towers cast a shadow over Homura as she speaks, giving a more ominous feel to their dialogue. Parts of the dialogue are changed and some elements are added to compensate for prior discussions about grief seeds being removed.
** BGM is a piano track, rather than a violin.
* The scene just prior to this one, where Sayaka is in bed holding and staring at her soul gem, is moved to here. Also, the scene where she yells at Kyuubey for deceiving them is shown here as a flashback.
** As with all of Sayaka’s flashbacks in the movie, they are shown in black and white with a vignette.
* Kyuubey's explanation about what soul physically is, and why it places their soul into a gem for the girls’ benefit in battle, is removed.
* Kyuubey says nothing prior to climbing onto the desk and touching Sayaka’s gem to demonstrate the true effects of pain to her. In the series, it prefaces this by equating the upcoming pain with getting stabbed in the stomach with a spear.
** BGM is another piano track.
* Sayaka does not look as distraught as she recovers from the sudden rush of pain. This may be to display the disconnect between a Puella magi’s body and soul, or may be an element of Sayaka’s healing ability.
* Kyuubey doesn’t mention the possibility of blocking out pain during battle.
* When Sayaka opens the curtains to see Kyoko outside, Sakaya’s face is partially blocked by a section of window frame.
* The scene and conversation where Sayaka and Kyoko are walking down the path is not shown. Kyoko does not suggest to Sayaka that she should live on without regrets, like she does.
** Instead, they are right in front of Kyoko’s dad’s church. The interior is a little more detailed.
* At one point during the explanation of Kyoko’s past, the BGM turns into a somewhat deranged violin piece.
* Sayaka seems to have less interest in Kyoko’s history.
* After Sayaka asks Kyoko why she would worry about her, we see a bright blue light against a black background. Perhaps Sayaka’s light of her soul?
* Overall, this scene was a bit faster than in the series. Also, some lines were altered or rearranged.
** There was a line said by Kyoko about living without regrets, which occurred during the walk to the church in the series.
* As Madoka, Sayaka and Hitomi are walking to school the next morning, their positions while speaking are slightly altered. When Sayaka sees Kyousuke among a group of boys, the girls are on a higher level than them.
** BGM is a different piano piece.
* The conversation about Kyousuke between Hitomi and Sayaka takes place in the restaurant, but in chairs instead of booth seats. Also, Hitomi’s tone when speaking to Sayaka is a little less critical in the movie.
* BGM is a different piano piece during Sayaka’s breakdown when she is speaking to Madoka.
* As Kyoko watches Sayaka fight the witch from outside the barrier, she is eating an orange popsicle, rather than the blue one in the series.
* As Sayaka fights Elsa Maria, the BGM is enhanced with an opera-like chorus accompanying the instrumental.
* The walls of Elsa Maria’s barrier have more detail.
* The glow around all the girls' black silhouettes stands out more.
* There seems to be less blood in this fight than in the series.
* There is no black screen with Madoka saying “No. Please Stop,” to Sayaka.

== Episode 8 ==

* The final moments of the Elle battle does not have a pause, as it continues straight through. There was a break between episode 7 and 8 in the series.
** The animation as the barrier disappears is different.
** The screen goes all black and silent before Sayaka says “I’m just a little tired.” It echoed perfectly in the theater.
** The next scene where Madoka helps Sayaka walk does not happen.
** Kyoko does not call Sayaka an idiot.
* Next scene is Madoka and Sayaka at the bus stop during the rain storm.
** There is no BGM, just ambient sounds of the rain and passing cars.
** There is no moment of a red-tinted, crazed Sayaka showing her darkening soul gem to Madoka.
** Sayaka’s tone is harsher and Madoka shows more concern over Sayaka in her voice.
** Sayaka doesn’t make mention of Kyuubey telling her that Madoka has potential to be a powerful Puella magi.
** When Sayaka runs off after telling Madoka not to follow her, she doesn’t say how stupid it was to say that to her.
** We do see her tainted soul gem, however, as in the series.
* In Homura’s home, the walls containing Walpurgisnacht information have more detail in them.
** There is no BGM during this scene.
** After Kyoko points her spear at Kyuubey, there is no close shot of the spear in Kyuubey’s face.
** After Homura tells Kyuubey to leave, its footsteps are louder than in the series.
* The scene of Madoka in class, regretting not having followed Sayaka the night before, is not shown.
* This also corresponds to no scene a bit later of Madoka visiting Sayaka’s home after school in search of her.
** Instead we see the scene with Kyousuke and Hitomi walking home, as Hitomi is about to confess to him, with Sayaka watching from a distance.
* As Sayaka watches their conversation, the BGM is a low-fidelity version of the BGM in the series, which fades into a more familiar version of the song as Sayaka is shown desperately fighting familiars, screaming in agony. Her screams are more desperate in the movie.
** Next is a scene of Sayaka’s body falling face down as she is sinking in black water, her body gradually dissolving.
* There is no scene where Sayaka is confronted by Homura to accept her help, and cleanse her soul gem for Madoka’s sake, or die by her hand right there and then. Consequently, we don’t see Kyoko come to Sayaka’s rescue and we don’t get another hint of Homura’s abilities when Kyoko retrains her.
** Instead, we see Sayaka on the train, listening in on the conversation between the two men about how women should be treated like dogs.
** The conversation between the two men is truncated.
** This scene is in black and white with a vignette, with the white’s brightness blooming over the black. As Sayaka confronts the two men, the lights outside the train pulse in intensity as it moves along.
* When Kyuubey has the conversation with Madoka about how she could possibly change Sayaka’s fate if she were to become a Puella magi for Sayaka’s sake, the majority of the conversation is seen through gaps in the streams of water that are colored by LED lights.
** The streams shift color and positions throughout the conversation. The fountain also has two vertical spouts that shoot water periodically as well.
** The fountain in the series only has one spout, and the streams do not move as much.
** The scene is shown mostly from a static wide angle, whereas in the series, it varies in distances.
** Portions of Madoka and Kyuubey’s lines are omitted.
** BGM is a lonely sounding flute and later a violin.
* After Homura interrupts and kills Kyuubey, her pleas to Madoka to not call herself worthless are more desperate.
** When Madoka runs off to find Sayaka, Homura does not say Madoka’s name until after she is out of earshot, and when she does say it, it is under her breath between sobs.
** When Kyuubey returns from the dead and is standing on the fence, its eyes do not glow at all.
** When Kyuubey realizes what kind of magic Homura uses, her face shows more shock and concern.
* When Kyoko finds Sayaka in the train station and sits down next to her, it is a wider angle shot.
** Once Sayaka shows Kyoko how tainted her gem is, a more serious violin and chorus BGM plays, growing in intensity as the scene progresses.
** In her last moment of humanity, as her tear hits her soul gem, we get a clearer view of Sayaka’s distorted face, which is a nothing but black with a white circle for the eye and a white trail from the tear that fell. This scene was not as clear in the series.
** When Kyoko cries out Sayaka’s name, it is much more bone chilling and echoed particularly well in the theater.
* The movie closes out with Kyuubey explaining the relationship between Puella magi and witches.
** Kyuubey has the same tone and face as seen in in the Blu-Ray version of the series.

== Ending Animation ==

* The song that plays is a new version of Magia, called Magia (Quattro). It is also the full version of the song.
* The visuals are much more dramatic, but are share similarities to the series ending sequence.
* The background is a distorted shot of a view of walking down a street.
* There are 6 teal-colored silhouettes that are seen during the first verse, which could be presumably the Puella magi versions of some of the witches, or maybe something different altogether.
* After these figures pass by, we see in the distance a pink figure which seems to be Madoka, as seen in the original ending. As the 2nd verse starts, she starts walking as in the original. She walks by herself for a bit.
* During the middle section of the song, larger silhouettes of the other four girls’ bodies, one at a time, show up on the screen. Each of them is represented by their respective color.
* Soon after, we see the visuals of Madoka walking by each of the four girls, her clothes ripping off, and then her running in the distance in same fashion as in the series ending, up until we see the lone figure of Madoka in a fetal position.
* This final part is an interesting change from the series. We see a large pink silhouette with long hair, and the floating figure of fetal position Madoka in the mid-section of this larger figure. It is presumed this larger figure is Ultimate Madoka, and this may relate to a plot device in Faust where Gretchen is pregnant with Faust’s baby.
* There are no after-credit extras.

== Summary and General Observations ==

* There was much speculation that the movies may present a different story from the series version, however, from my own personal viewing of the movies twice, it seems there is little departure between the two versions after the first movie.
* The only character that had any sort of modification was Sayaka. Her hair clips transform into a fortissimo symbol as shown in music scores.
** After the second movie, there is speculation as to if this is significant, as she appears to be alive according to the trailer for the third movie.
* Kyuubey’s mouth is drawn more distorted in most scenes it is in. Perhaps to help illustrate that it is more alien than something cute.
* Sayaka’s face seems to be more concealed in various scenes in comparison with the series.
* Homura seems to have more trouble fighting back her emotions in her dialogues concerning Madoka.
* General improvement on scene backgrounds seems to have been a focus, and overall, improved most scenes in the movie.
* New Kajiura music and BGMs helped create better atmosphere for certain events.
* The Witch barriers were given more detail
* It is interesting the movie’s story would omit Mami’s wish when she decided to become a Puella magi, as it should be an important detail in regards to her character.

I hope you enjoyed this detailed look at the first movie and its comparison with what was shown in the series. I am currently working on a similar post for the second movie. Please look forward to it sometime this week!

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Puella Magi Madoka Magica ～The different story～

2013-01-08T22:13:06Z

Hoshiko: /* Speculations */

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'''Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Different Story''' ''(魔法少女まどか☆マギカ ~The different story~)'' is a three-volume manga spin-off for the [[Madoka Magica Movie]] created by [[Hanokage]]. The first volume was released on October 12th, 2012, while the other two will be released on October 19th and November 12th.

The first volume begins as an adaptation of [[Drama CD 3]], though in culminates in an alternate timeline with a different outcome from the timelines shown in the anime.

== Observation & Trivia ==
* Mami and Kyoko are the protagonists in this story. Both Madoka and Homura only appear in a few scenes.
* After seeing her father hanging, Kyoko lost her 'Rosso Phantasma' ability. She might have decided to break up with Mami because she thought herself a burden to her.
* In this story, Sayaka saves Mami from her fate (defeated by Charlotte) by making a contract for Kyousuke. She then teams up with Mami.
** Homura tells Mami that since she already formed a party with Sayaka, she should not induce Madoka to contract with Kyubey. However, Mami thinks Homura's intention is to take Madoka for herself, along with Kyoko, so she refuses such idea.
* Sayaka doesn't go to save Hitomi from a witch since she doesn't want to lose Kyousuke. Hitomi is saved by Mami, and Sayaka feels regret and guilt for almost letting her friend die.
** She flips out during a witch hunting, and results in Mami getting severely hurt. Despite healing Mami with her magic, this makes Sayaka fall into despair.
*** Madoka tells Kyousuke about how his hands were healed. Sayaka feels hurt again when her secret is exposed.
* Although not drawn, Sayaka becomes a witch in the late part of chapter 8.
** She didn't call herself an idiot this time. She feels happy for being necessary to Mami, but it was already too late.
** According to Kyubey, she became a witch because there are no grief seeds left for her. They were all used by Homura, Kyoko and Mami.
*** Kyubey corrects his words later in volume 3, he indicates that it is not Mami's fault that Sayaka became a witch as Mami tried to avoid hunting excessively too many witches, leaving the rest for Sayaka, but Sayaka never acted as Mami hoped, so Sayaka failed to cleanse her Soul Gem as a result.
**** Kyoubey isn't bothered with the results, saying confrontation between magical girls speeds up the pollution of Soul Gems.
***** Kyubey regrets that Kyouko and Mami didnt become witches, since that represents a loss.
****** After hearing his words, Mami becomes angry and summons a pistol from her soul gem, preparing to shoot Kyubey.
* Knowing a magical girl's inevitable fate, Mami decides to die with Oktavia. Kyoko stops her and they fight.
** Candeloro tries to temtp Mami to fall into despair with promises of friends that would never betray nor abandon her, promising Mami a new world of happiness. This is the first time that we learn that ones' witch version can tempt a magical girl to fall into despair.
** Homura remembers Mami's insanity after learning the truth from many timelines. She tells Kyoko about it but Kyoko doesn't believe her.
** Kyoko recovers her illusion ability momentarily. She deceives Mami so she has the chance to cleanse Mami's soul gem.
*** Kyoko creates a fake image of Mami's corrupt Soul Gem to make Mami think it is cleansed to stop her from becoming Candeloro. In fact Mami's Soul Gem is still corrupted and Kyoko does not cleanse it until after she kills Oktavia {{spoiler|and dies later on as a result. While hunting down another witch for a Grief Seed to cleanse her Soul Gem, Kyouko ran out of magic inside the Witche's barrier}}.
* Finally Madoka makes her contract to revive Sayaka, and they fight Walpurgis together. Although it is not shown, they probably failed and Homura likely reset the timeline. {{spoiler|Mami commits suicide by breaking her own soul gem (after being saved by Homura). Mami might be afraid of becoming a burden to Madoka since she no longer wants to fight.}}
** During the Narration of Mami's letter, we are shown what appears to be an alternate world, where Mami is happy with friends, all the magical girls are in friendlier terms, and Mami's parents are alive. It is not known if this is a dream, Mami's wishful thinking of how she wished the world could had been, a different timeline, or just a delusion from Mami's mind while she narrates her letter.
** Homura doesn't reset time before fighting Walpurgis. She suggests Madoka to run away {{spoiler|to prevent her from becoming Kriemhild Gretchen}}, but Madoka refuses again.
** After revival, Sayaka changes her attitude towards Homura. She also seems to know nothing about becoming a witch, and instead believes that she was saved by Madoka just before being killed by witches.
* Weapon designs in this spin-off are the same as in anime, rather than the [[Manga differences|manga version]].
** Mami also often summons multiple guns.
** Soul Gem design is also based on the anime version.
*Through out the story, it is stated that one Grief Seed is not enough to purify multiple Soul Gems, making its usage very limited on a party. This is the source of competition among magical girls.
**It is also the source of strife and friction with Mami and other magical girls (and Kyoko).
**Also the reason why magical girls ignore familiars, as magic would be wasted on a target that doesn't drop Grief Seeds.
*Madoka's self-esteem is just like in the [[Madoka Magica Drama CD 1: Memories of You|Drama CD, "Memories of You"]]. Madoka confesses that the reason she wants to become a magical girl is because she has become self-conscious of how weak and useless she is, how much of a burden she is to her friends. She compares her current self with Sayaka and Mami and realizes how big the gap against those girls has become. She is also afraid that if she become a magical girl she would mess up and damage Mami's and Sayaka's team work.
*Kyouko reveals that she considers Mami more than a friend.
**To Kyouko, Mami is like a sister, part of her family.

== Speculations ==
* If Mami became Candeloro in this timeline, her familier should be red ones and blue ones, rather than pink ones.
** It makes sense, since Madoka hasnt made a contract at the time.
** The actual reason for this is because in this timeline the two people that Mami wanted to keep all to herself were Kyoko and Sayaka, in no other timeline (including PSP) had she seemed to become closer to Sayaka than Madoka.

== Gallery ==
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File:The Different Story 1 Cover.jpg| Cover of volume 1
File:The Different Story 2 Cover.jpg| Cover of volume 2
File:The Different Story 3 Cover.jpg| Cover of volume 3
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File:Two_new_magical_girls.jpg| Two new magical girls featured.
File:Dinner at Kyoko's.jpg| Mami having dinner with Kyoko and her family.
File:Differentstory_mami_classmates.PNG | Mami's classmates.
File:Tds_mamisfriends.PNG | They're friends, but never got very close to Mami.
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Talk:Madoka Magica Movie

2012-11-27T04:43:02Z

Hoshiko:

Huh. The subtitles for these films are, uh, unexciting. Are they going to go ahead with a "Story" motif for the third film's title? If so, maybe they'll go with something as pompous as "The Greatest Story Ever Told." (Of course, with no Swedish Jesus in sight ;-).) [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 06:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
:I thought it was pretty nice that they name the first film "[[Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story|The Beginning Story]]". --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 08:50, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

The movie is going to be a simultaneous release, any idea how long is the duration? Something tells me hardcore fans will try to watch both of them together on the same day--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 09:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not a user, and I don't particularly feel like registering, but I'd like to make this note: I just went to the Buffalo, New York screening today on November 23rd, 2012, and the trailer for the third movie has been apparently cut from all U.S. screenings barring the first five (according to the theater's owner) for some reason.

==link==
[[File:Madokagoodies comiket.jpg|right]]
*[http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-10953.html anyone knows what it says?]--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 00:27, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/interest/2012-08-03/madoka-magica-fate/zero-comiket-exclusives-revealed Madoka Magica, Fate/Zero's Comiket Exclusives Revealed]
*[https://wiki.puella-magi.net/File_talk:New_magical_girl_character_magazine_article_2012.jpg New character Hoax] Damn trolls --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 06:52, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

==Differences, Quality==
[http://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/news/2012-08-25/madoka-magica-films-ad-streamed-with-theme-by-claris-duo Madoka Magica Films' Ad Aired With New Theme by ClariS]

''A 30-second commercial began airing for the first two Puella Magi Madoka Magica films on Saturday, and it features the new theme song "Luminous" by the teenaged female duo ClariS.'' (yep, new song) --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:35, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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the movie version quality will be different than the tv and blu-ray. are we going to add a new subsection for that? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:35, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

[http://youtu.be/Fem01BT51Eo Mezamashi TV just aired a feature this morning] with clips from the movies that features a fancied up transformation sequence for both Sayaka and Mami (as well as completely new material). [http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-12156.html Screens can be found here] in case the YT link gets taken down.--[[User:Ren|ren]] 23:53, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

==Movie Premiere==
[[File:Madoka Magica in the fucking Grand Rex.jpg|right|300px]]
Is anyone is going to go or can go? If so, would anyone like to take notes or pics so it can be contributed to the wikia? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 02:29, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
:I plan on going to the NYC one, so I'll try to take notes if I can. No guarantees on pictures. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 02:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

:I'm going to the San Francisco one and don't mind taking photos/notes. --[[User:Ren|ren]] 05:34, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
::Back from the San Francisco show. I got some shots of the crowd and have some notes from memory ready to type out, but it'll take a while... all I'll say for now is watching with a non-JP audience might have ruined the experience a bit.--[[User:Ren|ren]] 10:26, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

:I'm heading to the LA one on a Saturday. I can't believe it's almost upon me already. I'll be sure to acquire someone's camera so I can snap some photos as keepsake, and I'll try to purchase everything. M-maybe I can purchase multiples of some things and give them away as gifts to #madoka. [[User:Holycrap|Holycrap]] 08:14, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

*[https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=433609743340911&set=a.197162296985658.38734.196941927007695&type=1&relevant_count=1 Madoka Magica Premiere at San Francisco & L.A. meetup facebook]
*[https://twitter.com/aniplexUSA/status/250373658902675456 Attn Houston Fans: Tickets are now on Sale for the Madoka Screening at the Alamo Drafthouse.] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 06:04, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

==Movie Premiere in Japan==
Has the movie premiered yet in Japan? (I get a bit confused by the time difference) If so, is there any news out? --[[User:Silvermoon424|Silvermoon424]] 16:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

It already premiered about a day ago or so. Some kind Japanese Anon already offered a write up of the most notable things. Here it is:

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Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story

I watched this yesterday and want to write down my observation and thoughts, just for your curiosity. Excuse me for my poor English though, it’s not my mother tongue.

Also, SPOILER WARNING

First of all;

1) They said it was going to be a recap. I say, SHINBO THE MASTER TROLLER. Every scenes have got certain changes-more or less-and, as far as I remember, all nearly all of the highlights scenes have been REDRAWN. It’s not merely a recap; I would call it a complete overhaul.

2) Those changes are so significant that, even though I had recently watched Madoka all over again-for my fourth time-on Niconico last week, it just felt like a completely new anime. If you haven’t watched Madoka for a while, I guarantee, it will be just as fresh as it was in 2011.

Story

1) There are not many changes or differences and most of them seem to be insignificant. I recognized some changes in the order of certain scenes, probably to join all the separate episodes together into a single continuing piece.

2) The first part, as it was revealed earlier in the morning, covers the first 8 episodes; it ends with ‘I’m such a fool’ and that god damn Kyubey lecturing us about the meaning of mahout-shojo.

Scenes

1) Apparently, there are few scenes that have been cut out, like the one with Madoka in a cafe asking Homura if she could help Sayaka. The dialogue itself seems to be absorbed into the other scene on the school’s roof. The scene where Sayaka makes her contract is also made very brief, with no dialogue at all.

2) There are four transformation sequences; new ones each for Sayaka and Kyoko, TWO FOR MAMI. They are of course much better than the ones on the TV series. Sayaka’s transformation takes place underwater and clearly resembles that of the little mermaid, or maybe her fate. Kyoko performs a nice dance with her spear while transforming, if you know what I mean.

3) It shows Mami’s Soul Gem getting shattered into pieces when Charlotte does MOGUMOGU. The entire sequence -Mami vs Charlotte- has actually become a little bit more crual, although I can’t explain why and how. Maybe because the way Charlotte moves, or it could be something about that new soundtrack.

4) For those who are concerned about all those beautiful shaft necks; rejoice. You can enjoy those nice angles of 90 degrees on the huge cinema screen.

5) THAT INU-CURRY WORLD FILLING THE ENTIRE CINEMA SCREEN.

6) The very last part of the new ending animation features an unknown pink silhouette -most likely that of Godoka- with another silhouette that is somewhat smaller and floating inside its belly, or womb?

Music

1) This is where I'm giving the most credit. Kajiura has once again done a magnificent job. I just can’t imagine the Madoka universe anymore without her works.

2) There are a number of new soundtracks; including the other two of which I haven't even heard so far. There are three -so far as I’ve counted- newly rearranged Sis Puella Magica(the main theme), two for Conturbatio(the Sayaka theme); one of those is a vocal version and played during the Sayaka vs Elsa Maria. It sounds something like an aria -like one from opera-makes the scene even more tragic. It is so heart breaking.

3) Credens Justitiam also has got a vocal version, definitely by Kalafina. You can assume how much Shaft cares about Mami.

4) The Homura vs Charlotte battle has got a new soundtrack, as well as the scene where Sayaka turns into a witch ;_; If you prefer Decretum, you might be a bit disappointed, although the new soundtrack is just as amazing.

5) EVEN WITCHES HAVE GOT THEIR OWN THEME SOUNDTRACK. Both Charlotte and Television-chan. the Charlotte theme is pretty nice. You can hardly wait for the release of the new soundtrack. I think there is one for Elsa Maria as well, but not sure if it was just the vocal version of Conturbatio which I have just mentioned above.

6) The ending theme is the movie arrange of Magia, at the full length. The new ending animation is, put it simply, an extended version of the original TV one, featuring silhouettes of several unknown magical girls before those of the main characters appear in the way like they did in the original one.

Trivia

1) They're now studying in a cathedral. I'm not even joking.

2) Mitagihara City now looks more urbanized then even NYC. Must be renamed St.Madokaburg or something.

3) Mrs Kaname is just as bro as she is in the TV series.

4) The teacher is still struggling with fertility stuff. No peace for poor Nakazawa-kun.

5) For the first time, they say, Madoka appears in a plain clothe! Remember that previously in the TV serious she shows only three types of outfit; school uniform, magical girl’s dress, and pajama.

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Archive of the thread is here: http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72622214/

[[User:MochaCoffee|MochaCoffee]] 18:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

:Oh, my gosh, this sounds INCREDIBLE! This will definitely please everybody who is complaining about two "recap" movies being released. I can't wait to see screencaps! --[[User:Silvermoon424|Silvermoon424]] 01:07, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:4chan is going crazy with that pregnancy speculation, /u/ is going nuts, talking about Madoka and Homura's baby! --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 13:45, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Another madoka movie thread http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72986699/ --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:27, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

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*[http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=30620855 someone saw and liked the movie] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 01:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
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*how was the second movie? Any good news? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 07:37, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://beatarai.blog90.fc2.com/blog-entry-2639.html Japanese fan comments about the movie] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 02:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

==Movie Thread /a/==
I am not keeping a track on these threads, but if anyone is willing to do so, try to see if they can be done in order.

*http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72622214/
*http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72986699/
*http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/73059493

== Luminous Lyrics ==

Found a romaji translation of the full lyrics. Not sure if its 100% accurate, but it seems legit after listening to Luminous while reading the lyrics.

:Tsutaeatta kokoro no ondo wo
:Sotto daiji sou ni kakae aruite ita

:Kotae no nai negai no naka de
:Kotoba wa mirai kaete

:Osanai koro zutto yume ni mite ita watashi ni wa mada
:Tooi kedo kimi ga ireba
:Sukoshi wa tsuyoku nareru ki ga shite
:Ashita no iro wo kasane nutta

:Yonda kibou tadotte tometa sekai wo koeta
:Akiramenai omoi itsu shika kokoro tsunageta
:Naite itatte waratte ashita mukae ni yukou
:Kimeta chikai tsurakute taorete mo
:Kimi no kokoro wo mamoru tame

:Kioku no nai toki no nagare ni
:Kitto motomete ita atatakasa wa atte

:Tsutsumareta shunkan subete no
:Omoi wa kimi he meguru

:Sora ni mukatte hashiri te ni shita
:Ikutsu mono toutoi hikari mune ni shimatte
:Watashi no naka no kagayaki ni kae
:Mayoi wo zenbu haratte tobou

:Seikai no mienai irikunda meiro wo nuke
:Kimi ga nagashita namida de kokoro mezameta
:Soshite shitta sekai wa konna ni mo mada kirei de
:Atarashii kanousei wo umu darou
:Toki no kakera no negai kara

:Sukui shinjite wareta omoi
:Watashi ga hajimari ni tatte
:Kimi no egao torimodosu yo
:Shinjitsu no kiseki ni natte

:Yonda kibou tadotte tometa sekai wo koeta
:Akiramenai omoi itsu shika kokoro tsunageta
:Naite itatte waratte ashita mukae ni yukou
:Kimeta chikai tsurakute taorete mo
:Kimi no kokoro wo mamoru tame
:Kimi no soba ni iyou

Source: http://beautifulsonglyrics.blogspot.com/2012/10/claris-luminous-lyrics.html#ixzz297dSwvLQ

EDIT: WELP, I seem to have found someone on tumblr who roughly translated the lyrics already in english. http://sparklyspacehugs.tumblr.com/post/33149041498/this-translation-is-a-work-in-progress-sup

--[[User:Riga92|Riga92]] 21:23, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

== Film Strips ==

Here are galleries of the film strips the Japanese fans have been posting. Looks like quite a number of scenes have been reanimated. --[[User:Knon|Knon]] 17:13, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://imgur.com/a/U4qoU#0 Gallery #1]
*[http://imgur.com/a/X7XiZ#0 Gallery #2]
*[http://imgur.com/a/D9a9E#0 Gallery #3]
*[http://imgur.com/a/ScwZg#0 Gallery #4]
*[http://imgur.com/a/BORT4#0 Gallery #5]
*[http://imgur.com/a/2ZOzn#0 Gallery #6]

[http://himarin.net/archives/6675148.html another source of film strips] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:26, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

==Audio from End-of-The-Everlasting-Story Preview==
Translated by /a/:

"Witches— The most evil harbingers of despair. As well as the accursed final form of magical girls who have fallen into despair. Once before, I had repeated the same time again and again, to wage war against that cruel fate. And in the end, with a single girl as a sacrifice, the cruel cycle of hope and despair was broken. The world was guided towards a new truth. Or so it seemed…

Mami: "Don't even think of chasing me… or we'll have to fight."

Kyoko: "Isn't that Hitomi's nightmare's…"

Sayaka: "Hitomi must have it rough, huh. She tried to make that insensitive blockhead her boyfriend and all…"

QB: "I'm almost certain that that's the very ability of those witches you once told me about…"

Kyoko: "You really don't look like you're trying to make fun of me. You're serious, aren't you?"

Homura: "There's nothing but a cycle of sadness and hatred. I dream of the day that sorely missed smile comes back to this hopeless world."

Madoka: "Sorry for making you wait. You've always been giving it your all, haven't you?"

Homura: "…Madoka."

Madoka: "Let's go now. From now on, we'll be together forever."

:An alternate, more literal(?) and independently done translation, courtesy of ANN user Juno016. Includes physical descriptions of preview. [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 06:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
:*the preview starts with the camera panning across rubble with painted figures of each of the magical girls

:Homura (narration): Witches-- Those are the disaster "demons" (lit. "Magic users") who spread despair. And, the magical girls who have fallen into despair, and in the end, are reduced to a cursed form. The me living then, repeating the same time over and over, to fight against that cruel fate. And finally, a lone girl's sacrifice, therefore cutting the cruel chains of hope and despair, expectantly guiding the world to a new truth. ...or so it would seem...

:*actual clips from the third movie

:*Mami talking to someone off-screen with a cautious grin on her face

:Mami: "Don't think of following me..."

:*we see Mami and Kyouko in their magical girl forms in a parking lot(?), weapons ready
(Actually I'm pretty sure it is Homura to the left, shooting at Mami, who is to the right)

:Mami: "...or did you come to fight..."

:*Kyouko running through the street, talking into a cellphone

:Kyoko: "Shizuki Hitomi's nightmare...?" (ED. Note: the earlier translation seemed to indicate that Hitomi's so-called nightmare found a physical manifestation, but now I'm not so sure, considering there's no possessive marker. Then again, it must be important enough to mention in the preview.... [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 06:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC))

:*Sayaka in her school outfit(?), nervously grinning

:Sayaka: "Hitomi must be having trouble, huh. She made that insensitive guy her boyfriend and..."

:*Kyuubey's face

:Kyuubey: "Exactly. It's just like the value/ability of the witches you explained once, huh."

:*Kyouko, with her back turned to the screen

:Kyouko: "Calling me an 'idiot'... That's... not what you're doing, huh..."

:*she shaft-head-tilts toward the screen, with a serious look on her face

:Kyouko: "You're... serious, aren't you."

:*Kyuubey is shown with something reflecting in his eyes

:Homura (narration): "Nothing but sadness and hatred repeat. In this word that cannot be saved..."

:*closer inspection reveals the reflection to be Ultimate Madoka's silhouette in the starry sky

:Homura: "...the hope to chance upon that dear/missed smile once again..."

:*Ultimate Madoka's silhouette reflects in a shaft-head-tilting Sayaka's eyes as well, in space(?)

:Madoka: "Sorry to make you wait. Until now, you've continuously done your best, haven't you~"

:*Homura's face, surprised

:Homura: "...Madoka..."

:*the actual silhouette of Madoka, but she's on a rocky, moon/asteroid-like rock formation surface now, possibly in front of Homura

:Madoka: "Okay~ Let's go~"

:*coming 2013 screen

== Movie ending ==

Where has all of this new info about the movie ending being radically different from the anime series come from? I hope it's not all just from the audio preview for the third movie... --[[User:Knon|Knon]] 06:19, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:Mmmmmmyeah, I have a feeling this speculah has come from the audio. From what impressions I've read and skimmed, there are no changes to the ending's content-- for instance, I don't see anything being said about there being no Majuu (demons) or Sayaka not dying. I have a feeling that the third film might simply pick up sometime before that latter particular scene. [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 08:13, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
::It would really bother me if the reason Sayaka is back to life is because of ''Madoka Ex Machina'', it would really undermine the whole plot of the anime series as well as the cruel system that Urobuchi put in place. The reason Sayaka had to die (and insisted she needed to die) was to show that magical girls can still die, if he were to walk back from that by saying, "I decided to cheat and bring back Sayaka because of magic" would really be a cruel joke... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 11:15, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:::But there's nothing actually confirming that Sayaka has come back to life. Hearing her voice in the preview could mean anything: it could be a dream or a flashback, you name it. Like Animerican-Redeemed above, I haven't heard of any content changes, especially not something as drastic that would create wild speculations about a new universe. The reason I brought it up in the first place is because this information is already spread out on three pages (this one, 12th Episode, Yuri undertones). Frankly, even with it labelled as being highly speculative, until more people actually have access to the movies, I think the information is more confusing than anything. --[[User:Knon|Knon]] 14:11, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

==Ticket Sales==
We need info on ticket sales in Japan as well as international viewing, is there a way to have this info and post it on the page? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:08, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:(Also how much money the movie made in Japan and overseas too. If possible have a column showing their foreign currency and next to it changed into dollars --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:15, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-09/1st-madoka-magica-film-opens-at-no.7-with-over-us$1-million 1st Madoka Magica Film Opens at #7 With Over US$1 Million]
*[http://www.mangahere.com/news/puella-magi-madoka-magica-movies-tickets-sold-out/ Puella Magi Madoka Magica Movies Presale Tickets Sold Out in a Cinema in SFO]
I tried looking for some info regarding ticket sales, not a lot to work on. --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 15:47, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:Does anyone know where to find box office/ticket sales reliable data? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 15:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/10/15-1/otaku-legions-mobilize-for-second-madoka-magica-movie Movie #2 opening stats]. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 21:06, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-15/2nd-madoka-magica-film-ranks-no.2-with-us$2.18-million 2nd Madoka Magica Film Ranks #2 With US$2.18 Million] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 00:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

==New World Speculation==
The New World: Movie Version and Differences

<big>''(WARNING: THIS IS HIGHLY SPECULATIVE UNTIL RELEASE OF THE THIRD FILM)''</big>

There is speculation that the New World version of the movie is not the same from the anime series version. The New World concept of the movie version radically departs from the anime version that it alters the anime storyline. If the creators have made the story from the movie version a different story from that of the anime version, so we must consider both versions to be equally valid. If we consider the New World of the movie version and anime version to be canon then one acceptable explanation is that these two Worlds are from different universes. How these two Worlds are connected has not been explained. Since the universe from the anime series and the universe from the movie version share similarities but radical differences, they will both be treated as separate universes. The universe from the anime version will be indicated as '''Universe A''', and the universe from the movie version will be indicated as '''Universe M''', just as a matter of pragmatism.

*At first it seems like the cycle of suffering has been broken and that Witches have never existed in the New World of '''Universe M''', but this is proven to be false.
*Despair continues to haunt magical girls in the New World of '''Universe M'''.

*Sayaka is alive in '''Universe M'''. In '''Universe A''', Sayaka gave her life as a sacrifice and Ultimate Madoka accepted Sayaka's fate and wish. Not only does Madoka accept Sayaka's decision, but helps her to transition to what it is speculated to be the afterlife, so Sayaka's doesnt have any regrets from her choice. Why is Sayaka still alive in ''Universe M'' is not known. It is not clear yet if this is the result of Ultimate Madoka's interfering with Sayaka's fate or something else at work.
*Ultimate Madoka is able to show herself to Homura and perhaps interact with '''Universe M'''. In '''Universe A''', only Madoka's voice and presence could be felt by Homura.

:Perhaps Universe M is a prototype to Universe A, I mean, Madoka is a 4th grader, there is no way she would know how to completely tune the Universe from curse to hope in just one try. --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 20:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
::Alternatively, it could be that the Incubators began a counter attack that somehow jeopardized Madoka's Universe, I mean, there is a whole multiverse of timelines she has to watch over and if her wish works like a ripple effect then some time axis might be still undergoing transition. That also helps explaining the Online Game. --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 20:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
: In my opinion, I think someone may be overthinking this.--[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 22:18, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
::My guess: Nothing from the anime ending is changed, there's no alternate universe, the scene with Homura holding the ribbons after Sayaka dies comes halfway through the third movie, Homura reacts that way because it's her first time seeing a girl actually get taken away by Madoka, QB reports Homura's reminiscing to the mothership and they research it, they find a new and creative way to exploit girls, QB tests it on Hitomi, it does not go as planned, out-of-control test subjects turn into witches, and QB will drop by Homura's apartment to casually mention that he wouldn't mind her help cleaning up, since the deaths of all humans on Earth would interfere with reaching his quota in a timely manner. [[User:KM|KM]] 21:27, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Look, I know that there's a disclaimer about it being highly speculative, but still, this statement-- "The New World concept of the movie version radically departs from the anime version that it alters the anime storyline"-- sounds much too assumptive, much too "definitive" a statement from one making mere speculation. Again, is there anything at *all* in the second movie itself, discounting the trailer that has Sayaka's voice in it, that indicates a New World different from the one seen in the series? I've yet to hear anything about there being altered plot developments in the second movie; it sounds like everything shown in the series ending-- the Majuu, Madoka's wish, Sayaka's death, etc.-- hasn't been taken out. And even if Sayaka was brought back to life, would that really imply a "radically different" universe? [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 00:21, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
::The way I see is this, if Sayaka is brought back from the death, it undermines the argument of the cycle of suffering and the system in place since magical girls can be brought back to life (unless there is an acceptable explanation). On the other hand, if the story was an "What If" scenario or a different universe where Sayaka didnt die it wont undermine the concept that magical girls die. --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 00:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

:I saw the movie today and don't get what difference from the anime version. They look the same. After ED, however, there is some introduction about the 3rd movie, which is very different. Are you talking about that? --[[User:Yorkwoo|Yorkwoo]] 10:26, 21 October 2012 (UTC

:I can confirm Sayaka dies at the end of the second film, and they have the scene with Homura and "witch" wings. That hasn't changed at all. The simplest explanation is Sayaka's appearance in the third film's trailer is a flashblack. Less simple, but somewhat possible given some ambiguous statements from Urobuchi is that the Sayaka in the trailer is from a parallel timeline/universe/what have you. Or maybe we see her in the afterlife. As for Madoka being seen by Homura...the trailer actually does not have a scene or image where Homura sees Madoka. So it could all just be mental after all. --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 01:29, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

==Alternate Timelines?==
Someone help me out here. I remember reading something which said (either in the movie brochure or the Sport Hochi interview) that said the third movie will include timelines that we're cut out the anime. I can't find the source though, so I don't know how accurate this is. Has anyone read something like this, and if so, where? Thanks --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 01:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

==Trailer for Movie 3==
I went to one of the showings last night and recorded the movie 3 trailer for you guys. [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xui1co_pmmm-m3t_shortfilms Enjoy.] --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 17:04, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Thank you so much! [[Special:Contributions/208.120.155.143|208.120.155.143]] 03:39, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
::You know that feeling of getting your conception of a happy ending kicked out of your groin? Well, I am kind of getting those vibes. --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 04:14, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Urobuchi lied about a happy ending! --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 07:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Another version [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8L2jpGe-yk&feature=player_embedded Click to see]-- 21:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::Somebody reuploaded mine somewhere else already? You move fast, fandom. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 13:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::Dang, taken down to copyright violation (both links!). Guess they're more or less enforcing the warnings that I hear were given in the Music Box Theater in Chicago (and presumably the other theaters): do any filming, and get kicked out. Sigh.... well, uh, any chance of uploading a link to a ''private'' video of it again? --[[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 16:39, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I hear you can search for the dailymotion link in the archive of a certain imageboard and find threads where there's mediafire links, but those sorts of things probably shouldn't be directly provided on the wiki now that we know they want it taken down. (very nice work capturing the preview, though, that was exciting) [[User:KM|KM]] 19:42, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I still have the original copy I recorded, so I guess I could make a throw-away youtube account and upload it privately if it doesn't turn up again. My theater never made any announcement about no recording, but in general, the NYC showing was the worst of all of them, so I guess this is the upside. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 20:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::"NYC showing was the worst of all of them" What do you mean by that? I had REALLY wanted to go, but... sold out tickets. :( So I'm curious to know what you mean. [[User:YazzyDream|YazzyDream]]
:::::::::There was not enough of the limited edition posters or signboards for even a fourth of the audience, there was absolutely no merchandise on sale, the audio had the bass so high that people close to the speakers were complaining of not being able to hear any dialogue, there was no intermission, the people working the projector were messing around with it during the showing so that the picture was made to be less than half of the original size before people complained and they put it back. All in all, it was a mess. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 22:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::What day did you see it? I saw it on Monday, there was a break between the moves, the picture size was fine. I dunno about the sound since I was in the middle of the theatre, and I think the merchandise was Los Angeles only. --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 01:17, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::I was at the Saturday showing, and from what I've heard from other movie-goers, the NYC showing was the only one without merchandise for sale. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 01:58, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::All shows with the exception of LA had no merchandise for sale. San Francisco's had a pre-drawn raffle dependant on your will call number and only gave a handful or so posters away.--[[User:Ren|ren]] 00:34, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

I ripped the YouTube video when it was still up, and uploaded it here: http://www.mediafire.com/?m1hmrctn6d3lc36

The archive is password protected; the password is the name of the witch famous for loving Mami just a bit too much, in all lowercase. --[[Special:Contributions/149.156.98.60|149.156.98.60]] 00:07, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
:Hi guys, long time no see ;) I watched the trailer and all I can say is that... I clearly see Oktavia in the reflections. Time for speculah? I can't come up with any coherent explanation, but it seems that the new story will somehow revolve around Sayaka/Oktavia. --[[User:KFYatek|kFYatek]] 00:17, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
:: Really? Where? The image in Sayaka's eyes just looks like Ultimate Madoka to me.--[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 01:21, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's Ultimate Madoka, not Oktavia. I just double-checked on my larger version to be sure, but it's definitely Madoka. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 02:00, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Hm, at the second look it really is Ultimate Madoka. Now I feel ashamed and don't even know how could I mistake her for Oktavia. -_- --[[User:KFYatek|kFYatek]] 21:41, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
: Just noted something interesting: When Homura in the trailer is looking at the door that is exploding with light, the letters next to it say "[[Kasamino_City|KAZAMINO]]" with the M tilted over (the fact that it looks like the Greek Sigma character Σ may or may not be a coincidence.)--[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 02:18, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
::What if they will release a new set of latin or enoch runes just to screw with us? --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 02:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

*[http://www.deculture.es/video/Madoka_Magica_Movie_3_trailer.mp4 Trailer movie 3 sub] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 03:40, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

==Yahoo auction==
*[http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/10/21-1/madoka-x-homura-madoka-magica-film-strip-auctioned-for-over-1-million-yen Madoka x Homura "Madoka Magica" Film Strip Auctioned for Over 1 Million Yen]
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-10-20/madoka-magica-film-strip-auctioned-for-us$8300+ Madoka Magica Film Strip Auctioned for US$8,300+]
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-10-21/madoka-magica-film-strip-auction-ends-at-us$13600 Madoka Magica Film Strip Auction Ends at US$13,600]
*[http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d133919334 yahoo auction]

== Runes ==

[http://matome.naver.jp/odai/2135111135283389801 A rune-savvy Japanese fan has been translating the runes that appeared during second film's credits] (with the orchestral version of Connect). Looks like they're mostly lines from the script?--[[User:Ren|ren]] 00:40, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
:This needs to go to the runes page. --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 01:54, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

==OP sequence==

So has anyone found a rip of the OP sequence at all? [[User:Hoshiko|Hoshiko]] 04:43, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

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Wait, does this mean someone ripped the movie? I just want to see the OP sequence again ;_;