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''"Even the unchangeable destiny, shall be shattered."'' ~ Madoka☆Magica movie poster.
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
''"Even if it's a deception, this is the future she wanted."'' ~ Madoka☆Magica movie poster.
</blockquote>

[[File:Madoka Movie Announcement.jpg|right|200px]]
{{Nihongo|'''''Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Movie'''''|劇場版魔法少女まどか☆マギカ|Gekijōban Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika}}, the anime movie adaptation of ''[[Madoka Magica|Puella Magi Madoka Magica]]'', was first announced on November 10, 2011 in [[NewType 2011-12]]. The movies are set to be a trilogy with the first two being recap of the anime series and the last one being a continuation of the Madoka Magica story. On April 1, 2012 the titles for the first two movies were announced at Anime Contents Expo. Both movies are set for an Autumn 2012 release. The third movie is scheduled to be released sometime in 2013.

==Movies==
*'''Puella Magi Madoka Magica {{Nihongo|The Beginning Story|始まりの物語|Hajimari no Monogatari}}''' is the first of the two recap movies, released on October 6, 2012. It features the theme song ''"Luminous"'' by ClariS and a new version of ''"Magia"'' by Kalafina. It is 130 minutes long and covers the first 8 episodes of the anime series.
*'''Puella Magi Madoka Magica {{Nihongo|The Everlasting Story|永遠の物語|Eien no Monogatari}}''' is the second of the recap movies, released on October 13, 2012. It features the theme song ''"Hikari Furu"'' by Kalafina. It is 109 minutes long and covers the remaining of the anime series.
*'''Puella Magi Madoka Magica {{Nihongo|The Rebellion Story|叛逆の物語|Hangyaku no Monogatari}}''' is the third movie, continuation of the Madoka Magica story, to be released in 2013.[http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/10/12-1/third-madoka-magica-anime-movie-announced-as-hangyaku-no-monogatari]

==Trivia==
*On August 2012, a [[:file:New magical girl character magazine article 2012.jpg|picture]] of a magazine article was leaked to the internet, revealing what appears to be [[:file:2ch Asumi Original.jpg|a new character]] for the Madoka movie. It was quickly discovered that the magazine article was actually [[Translated_Official_Documents/Confirmed_Fakes#Jinna_Asumi|a fabrication]] by [http://2chnull.info/r/news4vip/1342419830/1-1001 2ch] to [http://ex14.vip2ch.com/i/responce.html?bbs=part4vip&dat=1342453877 deceive] Madoka fans.
*On October 2, 2012 Mezamashi TV [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fem01BT51Eo aired a feature on the first movie], showing scenes from the movie OP, new music, as well as new backgrounds and transformation sequences.

==Observation==
*Sayaka gets a new transformation sequence that takes place underwater.
*Sayaka's hair pins are also changed during her transformation, they're now in the shape of a fortissimo sign.
**In Italian, fortissimo means very strong, bright, tough/severe. In the music world, fortissimo is signed as ''ff'' and indicates that the piece should be played very loudly.
* Sayaka's face is concealed more often.
*Two of Mami's transformation sequences were changed.
*Mami's room became more lovely and has a loft.
*Kyoko has more variety of food in each scene she is in. She is seen eating green tea and strawberry Pocky in addition to her usual chocolate variety.
** The waffle during her binoculars scene has been replaced with a French cream sandwich cookie.
** The taiyaki she eats as she's fighting Sayaka in Episode 5 has been replaced with a similar bear-shaped pastry.
** The blue ice cream bar she eats at the end of Episode 7 has been replaced with an orange one.
** Snacks are sold around theaters which collaborated by Madoka-Magica and Yaokin who makes "Umai-Bo', that is original of "Ummai-Bo" which Kyoko has.
*SHAFT redraws a lot of the background.
*New Kajiura music
*New Credens Justitiam with the lyrics in Japanese.
*Homura and Madoka [[:file:Madoka homura chairs movie.jpg|sitting on chairs]] together in an open field. Chairs have a [[:file:Chairs s.jpg|significance]] with the Madoka animated franchise.
* ''Note: A detailed comparison between the first movie and the series can be viewed [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story: In-Depth Look|here]]''
* ''Note: A detailed comparison between the second movie and the series can be viewed [http://yuis-musings.tumblr.com/post/34491336339/madoka-magica-movie-2-in-depth-look here]''

==Official statements about ''The Rebellion Story''==
Very little has been revealed about the third movie. This section has been created to compile all official information about the third movie's contents.
* [[NewType 2011-12]]
* [[Sakura-Con 2012 Interview]]
* [[Otakon 2012]] - [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/convention/2012/otakon/4 Partial source]
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt0NY8769Bw Audio from End-of-The-Everlasting-Story Preview]
* [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-13/madoka-magica-story-will-not-end-in-3rd-film ANN: Madoka Magica's Story Will Not End in 3rd Film]
* [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-16/new-madoka-magica-show-considered-after-3rd-film ANN: New Madoka Magica Show Considered After 3rd Film]

==Speculation==
*The very last part of the new ending animation features an unknown pink silhouette - most likely that of Ultimate Madoka - with another silhouette that is somewhat smaller and floating inside its belly, or womb (?)
**This has fueled speculation of a pregnancy. In Goethe's Faust, Gretchen was actually pregnant with Faust's baby and she was forced to murder her baby by drowning it.
*There have been hints that the witches will reappear in the new movie in some capacity.
**There have been hints that Madoka Kaname will reunite with Homura Akemi, which probably strengthens the speculation above.
*There are also mentions of Hitomi Shizuki and the word "Nightmare" associated with her, implying that she will play a prominent role in the third movie. How this is related remains to be seen.
*It is speculated that the third movie could be taking place in a different universe.

==Worldwide premiere==
The first two movies are set to open in 18 cities in eight countries and territories between October and December. Each country will have their own key visuals.
*[http://madokamagicausa.com/movie.php '''United States''']
** Los Angeles' Downtown Independent (October 19-25)
** New York's Big Cinema Manhattan (October 20-22)
** Chicago's Music Box (October 20)
** Houston's Alamo Drafthouse (October 20, October 21)
** San Francisco's New People (October 20, October 21)
*'''France'''
**Paris' Grand Rex (October 19)
*'''Italy'''
*'''San Marino'''
** San Marino Anime Festival (December 8)
*'''South Korea'''
** Megabox Dongdaemun (October 27)
*'''Taiwan'''
** Vie Show Cinemas Taipei Sun (台北日新威秀影城) (October 20 for the first movie, and October 21 for the second)
*'''Hong Kong'''
** MCL JP Cinema, Causeway Bay (MCL JP 銅鑼灣戲院) (October 20, October 27)
*'''Singapore'''
** Singapore Expo Hall 8 (November 10, November 11)
<gallery>
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual US.jpg|United States
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual France.jpg|France
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual Taiwan.jpg|Taiwan
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual Hong Kong.jpg|Hong Kong
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual US Poster ENG.jpg|US movie poster version.
</gallery>

== Gallery ==
<gallery>
File:Madoka Magica Movie website graphic.jpeg|From the official Madoka Magica website.
File:Manga Time Kirara Magica movie promo art 1.jpeg|Initial Key Visual #1
File:Manga Time Kirara Magica movie promo art 2.png|Key Visual #1 - "Even if it's a deception, this is the future she wanted." [[:File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual US larger.jpg|(clear version)]]
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual US larger.jpg|Japanese Key Visual. Clean version.
File:Madoka magica movie poster theater.jpg|Key Visual #2 - "Even the unchangeable destiny, shall be shattered." [[:File:Madoka magica movie poster theater lean version.jpg|(clear version)]]
File:Movie Promo Flyer 01.jpg
File:Movie Promo Flyer 02.jpg
File:Movie Promo Flyer 03.jpg
File:Movie goods gayer gayer!.jpg|Complete set of all 3 Clear Files sold at the Goods counter at movie theaters. Each includes another clear file with a deco design and the girls' Soul Gem symbol and/or Kyubey silhouette.
File:Mami kyubey movie art official.jpg
File:Madoka homura movie art official.jpg
File:Sayaka kyoko movie art official.jpg
File:Madoka movie taniguchi.jpg
File:MadokaHomunudging.gif
</gallery>

===Tickets===
<gallery>
File:Movie Ticket ACE Special Edition.jpg|Special Edition Advance tickets at ACE for a limited venue showing of the first two Madoka Magica movies.
File:Madoka Magica Movie Special Edition Advance Tickets.jpg|Closer look at the ticket for the two movies.
File:Kyoko int manga anime fair 2012 sample.jpg|Kyoto International Anime Manga Fair 2012 Tickets
</gallery>

====Movie differences====
<gallery>
File:Movie version diff.jpg|Differences in quality. The movie version will be of higher image quality.
File:Madoka-bd-movie-comparison3.jpg|More differences.
File:madoka-bd-movie-comparison.jpg|More differences. The movie versions are scanned from a flyer, so the images aren't perfect.
File:School Roof Animation Comparison.jpg|More differences.
File:SayakaMovieComparison1.png|More differences.
File:SayakaMovieComparison2.png|More differences.
File:SayakaMovieComparison03.png|More differences.
</gallery>

==Screenshots==
These images are low res from scans until the DVD/BD comes out.
<gallery>
File:New family.jpg
File:First day of school.jpg
File:WIth papa.jpg
File:Learning to crawl.jpg
File:Big sister Madoka.jpg
File:Happy family.jpg
File:Pregnant Junko.jpg
File:Madoka Sayaka and Hitomi.jpg
</gallery>

==Fanart==
{{Fanart}}
<gallery>
File:Homumado movie fanart.jpg
File:Mamikyoko nuzzling fanart.png
File:MamixKyubey nuzzling fanart.jpg
File:Sayakamado nuzzling fanart.gif
</gallery>

==See also==
*[[Movie 1 Brochure]]
*[[Movie 2 Brochure]]
*[[Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story: In-Depth Look|''Yui's Musings'' - Madoka Magica Movie 1 : In-Depth Look]] A fan's detailed overview of observations and differences between the Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story movie and the TV series.

== External links ==
* [http://www.madoka-magica.com/ ''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'' official website]

Madoka Magica Movie

2012-11-01T21:02:46Z

YazzyDream: /* Gallery */ adding those uploaded screenshots

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<blockquote>
''"Even the unchangeable destiny, shall be shattered."'' ~ Madoka☆Magica movie poster.
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
''"Even if it's a deception, this is the future she wanted."'' ~ Madoka☆Magica movie poster.
</blockquote>

[[File:Madoka Movie Announcement.jpg|right|200px]]
{{Nihongo|'''''Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Movie'''''|劇場版魔法少女まどか☆マギカ|Gekijōban Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika}}, the anime movie adaptation of ''[[Madoka Magica|Puella Magi Madoka Magica]]'', was first announced on November 10, 2011 in [[NewType 2011-12]]. The movies are set to be a trilogy with the first two being recap of the anime series and the last one being a continuation of the Madoka Magica story. On April 1, 2012 the titles for the first two movies were announced at Anime Contents Expo. Both movies are set for an Autumn 2012 release. The third movie is scheduled to be released sometime in 2013.

==Movies==
*'''Puella Magi Madoka Magica {{Nihongo|The Beginning Story|始まりの物語|Hajimari no Monogatari}}''' is the first of the two recap movies, released on October 6, 2012. It features the theme song ''"Luminous"'' by ClariS and a new version of ''"Magia"'' by Kalafina. It is 130 minutes long and covers the first 8 episodes of the anime series.
*'''Puella Magi Madoka Magica {{Nihongo|The Everlasting Story|永遠の物語|Eien no Monogatari}}''' is the second of the recap movies, released on October 13, 2012. It features the theme song ''"Hikari Furu"'' by Kalafina. It is 109 minutes long and covers the remaining of the anime series.
*'''Puella Magi Madoka Magica {{Nihongo|The Rebellion Story|叛逆の物語|Hangyaku no Monogatari}}''' is the third movie, continuation of the Madoka Magica story, to be released in 2013.[http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/10/12-1/third-madoka-magica-anime-movie-announced-as-hangyaku-no-monogatari]

==Trivia==
*On August 2012, a [[:file:New magical girl character magazine article 2012.jpg|picture]] of a magazine article was leaked to the internet, revealing what appears to be [[:file:2ch Asumi Original.jpg|a new character]] for the Madoka movie. It was quickly discovered that the magazine article was actually [[Translated_Official_Documents/Confirmed_Fakes#Jinna_Asumi|a fabrication]] by [http://2chnull.info/r/news4vip/1342419830/1-1001 2ch] to [http://ex14.vip2ch.com/i/responce.html?bbs=part4vip&dat=1342453877 deceive] Madoka fans.
*On October 2, 2012 Mezamashi TV [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fem01BT51Eo aired a feature on the first movie], showing scenes from the movie OP, new music, as well as new backgrounds and transformation sequences.

==Observation==
*Sayaka gets a new transformation sequence that takes place underwater.
*Sayaka's hair pins are also changed during her transformation, they're now in the shape of a fortissimo sign.
**In Italian, fortissimo means very strong, bright, tough/severe. In the music world, fortissimo is signed as ''ff'' and indicates that the piece should be played very loudly.
* Sayaka's face is concealed more often.
*Two of Mami's transformation sequences were changed.
*Mami's room became more lovely and has a loft.
*Kyoko has more variety of food in each scene she is in. She is seen eating green tea and strawberry Pocky in addition to her usual chocolate variety.
** The waffle during her binoculars scene has been replaced with a French cream sandwich cookie.
** The taiyaki she eats as she's fighting Sayaka in Episode 5 has been replaced with a similar bear-shaped pastry.
** The blue ice cream bar she eats at the end of Episode 7 has been replaced with an orange one.
** Snacks are sold around theaters which collaborated by Madoka-Magica and Yaokin who makes "Umai-Bo', that is original of "Ummai-Bo" which Kyoko has.
*SHAFT redraws a lot of the background.
*New Kajiura music
*New Credens Justitiam with the lyrics in Japanese.
*Homura and Madoka [[:file:Madoka homura chairs movie.jpg|sitting on chairs]] together in an open field. Chairs have a [[:file:Chairs s.jpg|significance]] with the Madoka animated franchise.
* ''Note: A detailed comparison between the first movie and the series can be viewed [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story: In-Depth Look|here]]''
* ''Note: A detailed comparison between the second movie and the series can be viewed [http://yuis-musings.tumblr.com/post/34491336339/madoka-magica-movie-2-in-depth-look here]''

==Official statements about ''The Rebellion Story''==
Very little has been revealed about the third movie. This section has been created to compile all official information about the third movie's contents.
* [[NewType 2011-12]]
* [[Sakura-Con 2012 Interview]]
* [[Otakon 2012]] - [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/convention/2012/otakon/4 Partial source]
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt0NY8769Bw Audio from End-of-The-Everlasting-Story Preview]
* [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-13/madoka-magica-story-will-not-end-in-3rd-film ANN: Madoka Magica's Story Will Not End in 3rd Film]
* [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-16/new-madoka-magica-show-considered-after-3rd-film ANN: New Madoka Magica Show Considered After 3rd Film]

==Speculation==
*The very last part of the new ending animation features an unknown pink silhouette - most likely that of Ultimate Madoka - with another silhouette that is somewhat smaller and floating inside its belly, or womb (?)
**This has fueled speculation of a pregnancy. In Goethe's Faust, Gretchen was actually pregnant with Faust's baby and she was forced to murder her baby by drowning it.
*There have been hints that the witches will reappear in the new movie in some capacity.
**There have been hints that Madoka Kaname will reunite with Homura Akemi, which probably strengthens the speculation above.
*There are also mentions of Hitomi Shizuki and the word "Nightmare" associated with her, implying that she will play a prominent role in the third movie. How this is related remains to be seen.
*It is speculated that the third movie could be taking place in a different universe.

==Worldwide premiere==
The first two movies are set to open in 18 cities in eight countries and territories between October and December. Each country will have their own key visuals.
*[http://madokamagicausa.com/movie.php '''United States''']
** Los Angeles' Downtown Independent (October 19-25)
** New York's Big Cinema Manhattan (October 20-22)
** Chicago's Music Box (October 20)
** Houston's Alamo Drafthouse (October 20, October 21)
** San Francisco's New People (October 20, October 21)
*'''France'''
**Paris' Grand Rex (October 19)
*'''Italy'''
*'''San Marino'''
** San Marino Anime Festival (December 8)
*'''South Korea'''
** Megabox Dongdaemun (October 27)
*'''Taiwan'''
** Vie Show Cinemas Taipei Sun (台北日新威秀影城) (October 20 for the first movie, and October 21 for the second)
*'''Hong Kong'''
** MCL JP Cinema, Causeway Bay (MCL JP 銅鑼灣戲院) (October 20, October 27)
*'''Singapore'''
** Singapore Expo Hall 8 (November 10, November 11)
<gallery>
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual US.jpg|United States
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual France.jpg|France
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual Taiwan.jpg|Taiwan
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual Hong Kong.jpg|Hong Kong
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual US Poster ENG.jpg|US movie poster version.
</gallery>

== Gallery ==
<gallery>
File:Madoka Magica Movie website graphic.jpeg|From the official Madoka Magica website.
File:Manga Time Kirara Magica movie promo art 1.jpeg|Initial Key Visual #1
File:Manga Time Kirara Magica movie promo art 2.png|Key Visual #1 - "Even if it's a deception, this is the future she wanted." [[:File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual US larger.jpg|(clear version)]]
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual US larger.jpg|Japanese Key Visual. Clean version.
File:Madoka magica movie poster theater.jpg|Key Visual #2 - "Even the unchangeable destiny, shall be shattered." [[:File:Madoka magica movie poster theater lean version.jpg|(clear version)]]
File:Movie Promo Flyer 01.jpg
File:Movie Promo Flyer 02.jpg
File:Movie Promo Flyer 03.jpg
File:Movie goods gayer gayer!.jpg|Complete set of all 3 Clear Files sold at the Goods counter at movie theaters. Each includes another clear file with a deco design and the girls' Soul Gem symbol and/or Kyubey silhouette.
File:Mami kyubey movie art official.jpg
File:Madoka homura movie art official.jpg
File:Sayaka kyoko movie art official.jpg
File:Madoka movie taniguchi.jpg
File:MadokaHomunudging.gif
</gallery>

===Tickets===
<gallery>
File:Movie Ticket ACE Special Edition.jpg|Special Edition Advance tickets at ACE for a limited venue showing of the first two Madoka Magica movies.
File:Madoka Magica Movie Special Edition Advance Tickets.jpg|Closer look at the ticket for the two movies.
File:Kyoko int manga anime fair 2012 sample.jpg|Kyoto International Anime Manga Fair 2012 Tickets
</gallery>

====Movie differences====
<gallery>
File:Movie version diff.jpg|Differences in quality. The movie version will be of higher image quality.
File:Madoka-bd-movie-comparison3.jpg|More differences.
File:madoka-bd-movie-comparison.jpg|More differences. The movie versions are scanned from a flyer, so the images aren't perfect.
File:School Roof Animation Comparison.jpg|More differences.
File:SayakaMovieComparison1.png|More differences.
File:SayakaMovieComparison2.png|More differences.
File:SayakaMovieComparison03.png|More differences.
</gallery>

==Screenshots==
These images are low res from scans until the DVD/BD comes out.
<gallery>
File:New family.jpg"
File:First day of school.jpg"
File:WIth papa.jpg
File:Learning to crawl.jpg
File:Big sister Madoka.jpg
File:Happy family.jpg
File:Pregnant Junko.jpg
File:Madoka Sayaka and Hitomi.jpg
</gallery>

==Fanart==
{{Fanart}}
<gallery>
File:Homumado movie fanart.jpg
File:Mamikyoko nuzzling fanart.png
File:MamixKyubey nuzzling fanart.jpg
File:Sayakamado nuzzling fanart.gif
</gallery>

==See also==
*[[Movie 1 Brochure]]
*[[Movie 2 Brochure]]
*[[Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story: In-Depth Look|''Yui's Musings'' - Madoka Magica Movie 1 : In-Depth Look]] A fan's detailed overview of observations and differences between the Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story movie and the TV series.

== External links ==
* [http://www.madoka-magica.com/ ''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'' official website]

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YazzyDream: i think the movies link should be more visible. I seem to miss it everytime.

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{{Nihongo|'''''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'''''|魔法少女まどか☆マギカ|Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika}}, the first title in ''Puella Magi'' series, is a production of animation studio [[wikipedia:Shaft (company)|SHAFT]] and [[wikipedia:Aniplex|Aniplex]] under [[Atsuhiro Iwakami]] as a main producer. The series was directed by [[Akiyuki Shinbo]] and written by [[Gen Urobuchi]] with original character designs by [[Ume Aoki]]. ''Madoka Magica'' began development after Akiyuki Shinbo express his desire to work on a new magical girl series after ''[[wikipedia:Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha|Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]]'' to producer Atsuhiro Iwakami while they were working on ''[[wikipedia:Hidamari Sketch|Hidamari Sketch]]'' and ''[[wikipedia:Bakemonogatari|Bakemonogatari]]''.

The show's [[#Episodes|12 episodes]] were broadcasted on MBS, TBS and CBC between January 6, 2011 and April 21, 2011 with a delay after episode 10 due to production and broadcast delays related to the [[wikipedia:2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami|2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami]]. All Blu-rays and DVDs released are delayed by one month sequentially from its original plans.

=== Plot ===

There exist "Messengers of Magic" who have the power to grant one wish to a chosen girl. However, that girl must then become a magical girl and fight against witches, evil creatures born from curses that are responsible for murders and suicides. A schoolgirl named [[Madoka Kaname]] and her friend [[Sayaka Miki]] are approached by one of those Messengers of Magic named [[Kyubey]] and magical girl named [[Mami Tomoe]] with offers of becoming magical girls, while another magical girl, [[Homura Akemi]], tries to prevent Madoka and friends from making such a deal...

== Series information ==
* '''[[Madoka Magica Characters|Characters]]''' — List of all major, minor characters, witches and familiars in the anime.
* '''[[Madoka Magica Manga|Manga]]''' — Manga adaptation of the anime's story by [[Hanokage]].
* '''[[Madoka Magica Music|Music]]''' — Opening theme, ending theme, soundtrack and other related music.
* '''[[Madoka Magica Locations|Locations]]''' — List of locations that appeared in the anime.
* '''[[Madoka Magica Staff and Cast|Staff and Cast]]''' — The people who created the series.

== Episodes ==
* '''[[Madoka Magica Episode 1: As If We Met in a Dream...|Episode 1: As If We Met in a Dream...]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Episode 2: That Sounds Wonderful|Episode 2: That Sounds Wonderful]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Episode 3: I'm Not Afraid of Anything Anymore|Episode 3: I'm Not Afraid of Anything Anymore]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Episode 4: Both Miracles and Magic Exist|Episode 4: Both Miracles and Magic Exist]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Episode 5: There's No Way I'd Regret This|Episode 5: There's No Way I'd Regret This]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Episode 6: This Just Isn't Right|Episode 6: This Just Isn't Right]]'''
* '''[[Episode 7|Episode 7: Can You Face Your True Feelings?]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Episode 8: I'm Such a Fool|Episode 8: I'm Such a Fool]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Episode 9: I'll Never Allow That|Episode 9: I'll Never Allow That]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Episode 10: I Won't Depend on Anyone Anymore|Episode 10: I Won't Depend on Anyone Anymore]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Episode 11: The Only Signpost Remaining|Episode 11: The Only Signpost Remaining]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Episode 12: My Best Friend|Episode 12: My Best Friend]]'''

== Drama CDs ==
* '''[[Madoka Magica Drama CD 1: Memories of You|Drama CD 1: Memories of You]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Drama CD 2: Sunny Day Life|Drama CD 2: Sunny Day Life]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Drama CD 3: Farewell Story|Drama CD 3: Farewell Story]]'''
* '''[[Madoka Magica Drama CD 4: Summer Magical Girl Training Camp!!|Drama CD 4: Summer Magical Girl Training Camp!!]]

== Related products ==
* '''[[Madoka Magica Products|Products]]''' — Official books and DVDs/Blu-rays released in Japan.
* '''[[Madoka Magica Merchandise|Merchandise]]''' — Character goods such as figurines, pouch, and such.

== Fan contents ==
* '''[[Madoka Magica Trivia|Trivia]]''' — Small details from the anime series.
* '''[[Madoka Magica Theories|Theories]]''' — Various theories in the community while the show was airing.
* '''[[Madoka Magica Articles|Articles]]''' — Analysis on many aspect of the show.

==External links==
*[http://www.madoka-magica.com/ ''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'' official website] (Japanese)
*[http://www.madokamagicausa.com/ ''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'' official website] (English)
*[http://twitter.com/madoka_magica ''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'' official Twitter] (Japanese)
*[http://twitter.com/MadokaMagicaUSA ''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'' official Twitter] (English)
*[http://www.mbs.jp/madoka-magica/ ''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'''s page at MBS] (Japanese)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica ''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'' at Wikipedia]
*[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica ''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'' at TVTropes.org]

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2012-11-01T19:50:13Z

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2012-10-26T02:13:27Z

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Hello, I've been a lurker for a while now. Since the time the anime was still showing. Finally decided to go ahead and make an account.

Madoka Magica Movie

2012-10-26T02:12:03Z

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''"Even the unchangeable destiny, shall be shattered."'' ~ Madoka☆Magica movie poster.
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''"Even if it's a deception, this is the future she wanted."'' ~ Madoka☆Magica movie poster.
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{{Nihongo|'''''Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Movie'''''|劇場版魔法少女まどか☆マギカ|Gekijōban Mahō Shōjo Madoka Magika}}, the anime movie adaptation of ''[[Madoka Magica|Puella Magi Madoka Magica]]'', was first announced on November 10, 2011 in [[NewType 2011-12]]. The movies are set to be a trilogy with the first two being recap of the anime series and the last one being a continuation of the Madoka Magica story. On April 1, 2012 the titles for the first two movies were announced at Anime Contents Expo. Both movies are set for an Autumn 2012 release. The third movie is scheduled to be released sometime in 2013.

==Movies==
*'''Puella Magi Madoka Magica {{Nihongo|The Beginning Story|始まりの物語|Hajimari no Monogatari}}''' is the first of the two recap movies, released on October 6, 2012. It features the theme song ''"Luminous"'' by ClariS and a new version of ''"Magia"'' by Kalafina. It is 130 minutes long and covers the first 8 episodes of the anime series.
*'''Puella Magi Madoka Magica {{Nihongo|The Everlasting Story|永遠の物語|Eien no Monogatari}}''' is the second of the recap movies, released on October 13, 2012. It features the theme song ''"Hikari Furu"'' by Kalafina. It is 109 minutes long and covers the remaining of the anime series.
*'''Puella Magi Madoka Magica {{Nihongo|The Rebellion Story|叛逆の物語|Hangyaku no Monogatari}}''' is the third movie, continuation of the Madoka Magica story, to be released in 2013.[http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/10/12-1/third-madoka-magica-anime-movie-announced-as-hangyaku-no-monogatari]

==Trivia==
*On August 2012, a [[:file:New magical girl character magazine article 2012.jpg|picture]] of a magazine article was leaked to the internet, revealing what appears to be [[:file:2ch Asumi Original.jpg|a new character]] for the Madoka movie. It was quickly discovered that the magazine article was actually [[Translated_Official_Documents/Confirmed_Fakes#Jinna_Asumi|a fabrication]] by [http://2chnull.info/r/news4vip/1342419830/1-1001 2ch] to [http://ex14.vip2ch.com/i/responce.html?bbs=part4vip&dat=1342453877 deceive] Madoka fans.
*On October 2, 2012 Mezamashi TV [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fem01BT51Eo aired a feature on the first movie], showing scenes from the movie OP, new music, as well as new backgrounds and transformation sequences.

==Observation==
*Sayaka gets a new transformation sequence that takes place underwater.
*Sayaka's hair pins are also changed during her transformation, they're now in the shape of a fortissimo sign.
**In Italian, fortissimo means very strong, bright, tough/severe. In the music world, fortissimo is signed as ''ff'' and indicates that the piece should be played very loudly.
* Sayaka's face is concealed more often.
*Two of Mami's transformation sequences were changed.
*Mami's room became more lovely and has a loft.
*Kyoko has more variety of food in each scene she is in. She is seen eating green tea and strawberry Pocky in addition to her usual chocolate variety.
** The waffle during her binoculars scene has been replaced with a French cream sandwich cookie.
** The taiyaki she eats as she's fighting Sayaka in Episode 5 has been replaced with a similar bear-shaped pastry.
** The blue ice cream bar she eats at the end of Episode 7 has been replaced with an orange one.
** Snacks are sold around theaters which collaborated by Madoka-Magica and Yaokin who makes "Umai-Bo', that is original of "Ummai-Bo" which Kyoko has.
*SHAFT redraws a lot of the background.
*New Kajiura music
*New Credens Justitiam with the lyrics in Japanese.
*Homura and Madoka [[:file:Madoka homura chairs movie.jpg|sitting on chairs]] together in an open field. Chairs have a [[:file:Chairs s.jpg|significance]] with the Madoka animated franchise.
* ''Note: A detailed comparison between the first movie and the series can be viewed [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story: In-Depth Look|here]]''

==Official statements about ''The Rebellion Story''==
Very little has been revealed about the third movie. This section has been created to compile all official information about the third movie's contents.
* [[NewType 2011-12]]
* [[Sakura-Con 2012 Interview]]
* [[Otakon 2012]] - [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/convention/2012/otakon/4 Partial source]
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt0NY8769Bw Audio from End-of-The-Everlasting-Story Preview]
* [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-13/madoka-magica-story-will-not-end-in-3rd-film ANN: Madoka Magica's Story Will Not End in 3rd Film]
* [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-16/new-madoka-magica-show-considered-after-3rd-film ANN: New Madoka Magica Show Considered After 3rd Film]

==Speculation==
*The very last part of the new ending animation features an unknown pink silhouette - most likely that of Ultimate Madoka - with another silhouette that is somewhat smaller and floating inside its belly, or womb (?)
**This has fueled speculation of a pregnancy. In Goethe's Faust, Gretchen was actually pregnant with Faust's baby and she was forced to murder her baby by drowning it.
*There have been hints that the witches will reappear in the new movie in some capacity.
**There have been hints that Madoka Kaname will reunite with Homura Akemi, which probably strengthens the speculation above.
*There are also mentions of Hitomi Shizuki and the word "Nightmare" associated with her, implying that she will play a prominent role in the third movie. How this is related remains to be seen.
*It is speculated that the third movie could be taking place in a different universe.

==Worldwide premiere==
The first two movies are set to open in 18 cities in eight countries and territories between October and December. Each country will have their own key visuals.
*[http://madokamagicausa.com/movie.php '''United States''']
** Los Angeles' Downtown Independent (October 19-25)
** New York's Big Cinema Manhattan (October 20-22)
** Chicago's Music Box (October 20)
** Houston's Alamo Drafthouse (October 20, October 21)
** San Francisco's New People (October 20, October 21)
*'''France'''
**Paris' Grand Rex (October 19)
*'''Italy'''
*'''San Marino'''
** San Marino Anime Festival (December 8)
*'''South Korea'''
** Megabox Dongdaemun (October 27)
*'''Taiwan'''
** Vie Show Cinemas Taipei Sun (台北日新威秀影城) (October 20 for the first movie, and October 21 for the second)
*'''Hong Kong'''
** MCL JP Cinema, Causeway Bay (MCL JP 銅鑼灣戲院) (October 20, October 27)
*'''Singapore'''
** Singapore Expo Hall 8 (November 10, November 11)
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File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual US.jpg|United States
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual France.jpg|France
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual Taiwan.jpg|Taiwan
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual Hong Kong.jpg|Hong Kong
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual US Poster ENG.jpg|US movie poster version.
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== Gallery ==
<gallery>
File:Madoka Magica Movie website graphic.jpeg|From the official Madoka Magica website.
File:Manga Time Kirara Magica movie promo art 1.jpeg|Initial Key Visual #1
File:Manga Time Kirara Magica movie promo art 2.png|Key Visual #1 - "Even if it's a deception, this is the future she wanted." [[:File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual US larger.jpg|(clear version)]]
File:Madoka Movie 1 Key Visual US larger.jpg|Japanese Key Visual. Clean version.
File:Madoka magica movie poster theater.jpg|Key Visual #2 - "Even the unchangeable destiny, shall be shattered." [[:File:Madoka magica movie poster theater lean version.jpg|(clear version)]]
File:Movie Promo Flyer 01.jpg
File:Movie Promo Flyer 02.jpg
File:Movie Promo Flyer 03.jpg
File:Movie goods gayer gayer!.jpg|Complete set of all 3 Clear Files sold at the Goods counter at movie theaters. Each includes another clear file with a deco design and the girls' Soul Gem symbol and/or Kyubey silhouette.
File:Mami kyubey movie art official.jpg
File:Madoka homura movie art official.jpg
File:Sayaka kyoko movie art official.jpg
File:Madoka movie taniguchi.jpg
File:MadokaHomunudging.gif
</gallery>
===Tickets===
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File:Movie Ticket ACE Special Edition.jpg|Special Edition Advance tickets at ACE for a limited venue showing of the first two Madoka Magica movies.
File:Madoka Magica Movie Special Edition Advance Tickets.jpg|Closer look at the ticket for the two movies.
File:Kyoko int manga anime fair 2012 sample.jpg|Kyoto International Anime Manga Fair 2012 Tickets
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====Movie differences====
<gallery>
File:Movie version diff.jpg|Differences in quality. The movie version will be of higher image quality.
File:Madoka-bd-movie-comparison3.jpg|More differences.
File:madoka-bd-movie-comparison.jpg|More differences. The movie versions are scanned from a flyer, so the images aren't perfect.
File:School Roof Animation Comparison.jpg|More differences.
File:SayakaMovieComparison1.png|More differences.
File:SayakaMovieComparison2.png|More differences.
File:SayakaMovieComparison03.png|More differences.
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==Fanart==
{{Fanart}}
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File:Homumado movie fanart.jpg
File:Mamikyoko nuzzling fanart.png
File:MamixKyubey nuzzling fanart.jpg
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==See also==
*[[Movie 1 Brochure]]
*[[Movie 2 Brochure]]
*[[Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story: In-Depth Look|''Yui's Musings'' - Madoka Magica Movie 1 : In-Depth Look]] A fan's detailed overview of observations and differences between the Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story movie and the TV series.

== External links ==
* [http://www.madoka-magica.com/ ''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'' official website]

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Community talk:Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story: In-Depth Look

2012-10-26T00:55:48Z

YazzyDream:

==Original Post==
Wasn't really sure what to do... but I found the link to the blog. The person just changed their URL: http://yuis-musings.tumblr.com/post/33573441213/madoka-magica-movie-1-in-depth-look [[User:YazzyDream|YazzyDream]]
:Personally, I think it's still a good idea to have a local copy just in case. But thanks for the find anyway! --[[User:KFYatek|kFYatek]] 18:38, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
::Oh yes, I agree. And no problem. :D [[User:YazzyDream|YazzyDream]]

Community talk:Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story: In-Depth Look

2012-10-25T14:39:29Z

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Wasn't really sure what to do... but I found the link to the blog. The person just changed their URL: http://yuis-musings.tumblr.com/post/33573441213/madoka-magica-movie-1-in-depth-look [[User:YazzyDream|YazzyDream]]

Talk:Madoka Magica Movie

2012-10-23T20:14:29Z

YazzyDream: /* Trailer for Movie 3 */

Huh. The subtitles for these films are, uh, unexciting. Are they going to go ahead with a "Story" motif for the third film's title? If so, maybe they'll go with something as pompous as "The Greatest Story Ever Told." (Of course, with no Swedish Jesus in sight ;-).) [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 06:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
:I thought it was pretty nice that they name the first film "[[Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story|The Beginning Story]]". --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 08:50, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

The movie is going to be a simultaneous release, any idea how long is the duration? Something tells me hardcore fans will try to watch both of them together on the same day--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 09:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

==link==
[[File:Madokagoodies comiket.jpg|right]]
*[http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-10953.html anyone knows what it says?]--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 00:27, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/interest/2012-08-03/madoka-magica-fate/zero-comiket-exclusives-revealed Madoka Magica, Fate/Zero's Comiket Exclusives Revealed]
*[https://wiki.puella-magi.net/File_talk:New_magical_girl_character_magazine_article_2012.jpg New character Hoax] Damn trolls --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 06:52, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

==Differences, Quality==
[http://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/news/2012-08-25/madoka-magica-films-ad-streamed-with-theme-by-claris-duo Madoka Magica Films' Ad Aired With New Theme by ClariS]

''A 30-second commercial began airing for the first two Puella Magi Madoka Magica films on Saturday, and it features the new theme song "Luminous" by the teenaged female duo ClariS.'' (yep, new song) --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:35, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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File:Movie version diff.jpg
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the movie version quality will be different than the tv and blu-ray. are we going to add a new subsection for that? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:35, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

[http://youtu.be/Fem01BT51Eo Mezamashi TV just aired a feature this morning] with clips from the movies that features a fancied up transformation sequence for both Sayaka and Mami (as well as completely new material). [http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-12156.html Screens can be found here] in case the YT link gets taken down.--[[User:Ren|ren]] 23:53, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

==Movie Premiere==
[[File:Madoka Magica in the fucking Grand Rex.jpg|right|300px]]
Is anyone is going to go or can go? If so, would anyone like to take notes or pics so it can be contributed to the wikia? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 02:29, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
:I plan on going to the NYC one, so I'll try to take notes if I can. No guarantees on pictures. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 02:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

:I'm going to the San Francisco one and don't mind taking photos/notes. --[[User:Ren|ren]] 05:34, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
::Back from the San Francisco show. I got some shots of the crowd and have some notes from memory ready to type out, but it'll take a while... all I'll say for now is watching with a non-JP audience might have ruined the experience a bit.--[[User:Ren|ren]] 10:26, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

:I'm heading to the LA one on a Saturday. I can't believe it's almost upon me already. I'll be sure to acquire someone's camera so I can snap some photos as keepsake, and I'll try to purchase everything. M-maybe I can purchase multiples of some things and give them away as gifts to #madoka. [[User:Holycrap|Holycrap]] 08:14, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

*[https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=433609743340911&set=a.197162296985658.38734.196941927007695&type=1&relevant_count=1 Madoka Magica Premiere at San Francisco & L.A. meetup facebook]
*[https://twitter.com/aniplexUSA/status/250373658902675456 Attn Houston Fans: Tickets are now on Sale for the Madoka Screening at the Alamo Drafthouse.] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 06:04, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

==Movie Premiere in Japan==
Has the movie premiered yet in Japan? (I get a bit confused by the time difference) If so, is there any news out? --[[User:Silvermoon424|Silvermoon424]] 16:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

It already premiered about a day ago or so. Some kind Japanese Anon already offered a write up of the most notable things. Here it is:

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Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story

I watched this yesterday and want to write down my observation and thoughts, just for your curiosity. Excuse me for my poor English though, it’s not my mother tongue.

Also, SPOILER WARNING

First of all;

1) They said it was going to be a recap. I say, SHINBO THE MASTER TROLLER. Every scenes have got certain changes-more or less-and, as far as I remember, all nearly all of the highlights scenes have been REDRAWN. It’s not merely a recap; I would call it a complete overhaul.

2) Those changes are so significant that, even though I had recently watched Madoka all over again-for my fourth time-on Niconico last week, it just felt like a completely new anime. If you haven’t watched Madoka for a while, I guarantee, it will be just as fresh as it was in 2011.

Story

1) There are not many changes or differences and most of them seem to be insignificant. I recognized some changes in the order of certain scenes, probably to join all the separate episodes together into a single continuing piece.

2) The first part, as it was revealed earlier in the morning, covers the first 8 episodes; it ends with ‘I’m such a fool’ and that god damn Kyubey lecturing us about the meaning of mahout-shojo.

Scenes

1) Apparently, there are few scenes that have been cut out, like the one with Madoka in a cafe asking Homura if she could help Sayaka. The dialogue itself seems to be absorbed into the other scene on the school’s roof. The scene where Sayaka makes her contract is also made very brief, with no dialogue at all.

2) There are four transformation sequences; new ones each for Sayaka and Kyoko, TWO FOR MAMI. They are of course much better than the ones on the TV series. Sayaka’s transformation takes place underwater and clearly resembles that of the little mermaid, or maybe her fate. Kyoko performs a nice dance with her spear while transforming, if you know what I mean.

3) It shows Mami’s Soul Gem getting shattered into pieces when Charlotte does MOGUMOGU. The entire sequence -Mami vs Charlotte- has actually become a little bit more crual, although I can’t explain why and how. Maybe because the way Charlotte moves, or it could be something about that new soundtrack.

4) For those who are concerned about all those beautiful shaft necks; rejoice. You can enjoy those nice angles of 90 degrees on the huge cinema screen.

5) THAT INU-CURRY WORLD FILLING THE ENTIRE CINEMA SCREEN.

6) The very last part of the new ending animation features an unknown pink silhouette -most likely that of Godoka- with another silhouette that is somewhat smaller and floating inside its belly, or womb?

Music

1) This is where I'm giving the most credit. Kajiura has once again done a magnificent job. I just can’t imagine the Madoka universe anymore without her works.

2) There are a number of new soundtracks; including the other two of which I haven't even heard so far. There are three -so far as I’ve counted- newly rearranged Sis Puella Magica(the main theme), two for Conturbatio(the Sayaka theme); one of those is a vocal version and played during the Sayaka vs Elsa Maria. It sounds something like an aria -like one from opera-makes the scene even more tragic. It is so heart breaking.

3) Credens Justitiam also has got a vocal version, definitely by Kalafina. You can assume how much Shaft cares about Mami.

4) The Homura vs Charlotte battle has got a new soundtrack, as well as the scene where Sayaka turns into a witch ;_; If you prefer Decretum, you might be a bit disappointed, although the new soundtrack is just as amazing.

5) EVEN WITCHES HAVE GOT THEIR OWN THEME SOUNDTRACK. Both Charlotte and Television-chan. the Charlotte theme is pretty nice. You can hardly wait for the release of the new soundtrack. I think there is one for Elsa Maria as well, but not sure if it was just the vocal version of Conturbatio which I have just mentioned above.

6) The ending theme is the movie arrange of Magia, at the full length. The new ending animation is, put it simply, an extended version of the original TV one, featuring silhouettes of several unknown magical girls before those of the main characters appear in the way like they did in the original one.

Trivia

1) They're now studying in a cathedral. I'm not even joking.

2) Mitagihara City now looks more urbanized then even NYC. Must be renamed St.Madokaburg or something.

3) Mrs Kaname is just as bro as she is in the TV series.

4) The teacher is still struggling with fertility stuff. No peace for poor Nakazawa-kun.

5) For the first time, they say, Madoka appears in a plain clothe! Remember that previously in the TV serious she shows only three types of outfit; school uniform, magical girl’s dress, and pajama.

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Archive of the thread is here: http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72622214/

[[User:MochaCoffee|MochaCoffee]] 18:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

:Oh, my gosh, this sounds INCREDIBLE! This will definitely please everybody who is complaining about two "recap" movies being released. I can't wait to see screencaps! --[[User:Silvermoon424|Silvermoon424]] 01:07, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:4chan is going crazy with that pregnancy speculation, /u/ is going nuts, talking about Madoka and Homura's baby! --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 13:45, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Another madoka movie thread http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72986699/ --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:27, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

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*[http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=30620855 someone saw and liked the movie] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 01:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
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*how was the second movie? Any good news? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 07:37, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://beatarai.blog90.fc2.com/blog-entry-2639.html Japanese fan comments about the movie] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 02:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

==Movie Thread /a/==
I am not keeping a track on these threads, but if anyone is willing to do so, try to see if they can be done in order.

*http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72622214/
*http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72986699/
*http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/73059493

== Luminous Lyrics ==

Found a romaji translation of the full lyrics. Not sure if its 100% accurate, but it seems legit after listening to Luminous while reading the lyrics.

:Tsutaeatta kokoro no ondo wo
:Sotto daiji sou ni kakae aruite ita

:Kotae no nai negai no naka de
:Kotoba wa mirai kaete

:Osanai koro zutto yume ni mite ita watashi ni wa mada
:Tooi kedo kimi ga ireba
:Sukoshi wa tsuyoku nareru ki ga shite
:Ashita no iro wo kasane nutta

:Yonda kibou tadotte tometa sekai wo koeta
:Akiramenai omoi itsu shika kokoro tsunageta
:Naite itatte waratte ashita mukae ni yukou
:Kimeta chikai tsurakute taorete mo
:Kimi no kokoro wo mamoru tame

:Kioku no nai toki no nagare ni
:Kitto motomete ita atatakasa wa atte

:Tsutsumareta shunkan subete no
:Omoi wa kimi he meguru

:Sora ni mukatte hashiri te ni shita
:Ikutsu mono toutoi hikari mune ni shimatte
:Watashi no naka no kagayaki ni kae
:Mayoi wo zenbu haratte tobou

:Seikai no mienai irikunda meiro wo nuke
:Kimi ga nagashita namida de kokoro mezameta
:Soshite shitta sekai wa konna ni mo mada kirei de
:Atarashii kanousei wo umu darou
:Toki no kakera no negai kara

:Sukui shinjite wareta omoi
:Watashi ga hajimari ni tatte
:Kimi no egao torimodosu yo
:Shinjitsu no kiseki ni natte

:Yonda kibou tadotte tometa sekai wo koeta
:Akiramenai omoi itsu shika kokoro tsunageta
:Naite itatte waratte ashita mukae ni yukou
:Kimeta chikai tsurakute taorete mo
:Kimi no kokoro wo mamoru tame
:Kimi no soba ni iyou

Source: http://beautifulsonglyrics.blogspot.com/2012/10/claris-luminous-lyrics.html#ixzz297dSwvLQ

EDIT: WELP, I seem to have found someone on tumblr who roughly translated the lyrics already in english. http://sparklyspacehugs.tumblr.com/post/33149041498/this-translation-is-a-work-in-progress-sup

--[[User:Riga92|Riga92]] 21:23, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

== Film Strips ==

Here are galleries of the film strips the Japanese fans have been posting. Looks like quite a number of scenes have been reanimated. --[[User:Knon|Knon]] 17:13, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://imgur.com/a/U4qoU#0 Gallery #1]
*[http://imgur.com/a/X7XiZ#0 Gallery #2]
*[http://imgur.com/a/D9a9E#0 Gallery #3]
*[http://imgur.com/a/ScwZg#0 Gallery #4]
*[http://imgur.com/a/BORT4#0 Gallery #5]
*[http://imgur.com/a/2ZOzn#0 Gallery #6]

[http://himarin.net/archives/6675148.html another source of film strips] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:26, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

==Audio from End-of-The-Everlasting-Story Preview==
Translated by /a/:

"Witches— The most evil harbingers of despair. As well as the accursed final form of magical girls who have fallen into despair. Once before, I had repeated the same time again and again, to wage war against that cruel fate. And in the end, with a single girl as a sacrifice, the cruel cycle of hope and despair was broken. The world was guided towards a new truth. Or so it seemed…

Mami: "Don't even think of chasing me… or we'll have to fight."

Kyoko: "Isn't that Hitomi's nightmare's…"

Sayaka: "Hitomi must have it rough, huh. She tried to make that insensitive blockhead her boyfriend and all…"

QB: "I'm almost certain that that's the very ability of those witches you once told me about…"

Kyoko: "You really don't look like you're trying to make fun of me. You're serious, aren't you?"

Homura: "There's nothing but a cycle of sadness and hatred. I dream of the day that sorely missed smile comes back to this hopeless world."

Madoka: "Sorry for making you wait. You've always been giving it your all, haven't you?"

Homura: "…Madoka."

Madoka: "Let's go now. From now on, we'll be together forever."

:An alternate, more literal(?) and independently done translation, courtesy of ANN user Juno016. Includes physical descriptions of preview. [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 06:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
:*the preview starts with the camera panning across rubble with painted figures of each of the magical girls

:Homura (narration): Witches-- Those are the disaster "demons" (lit. "Magic users") who spread despair. And, the magical girls who have fallen into despair, and in the end, are reduced to a cursed form. The me living then, repeating the same time over and over, to fight against that cruel fate. And finally, a lone girl's sacrifice, therefore cutting the cruel chains of hope and despair, expectantly guiding the world to a new truth. ...or so it would seem...

:*actual clips from the third movie

:*Mami talking to someone off-screen with a cautious grin on her face

:Mami: "Don't think of following me..."

:*we see Mami and Kyouko in their magical girl forms in a parking lot(?), weapons ready

:Mami: "...or did you come to fight..."

:*Kyouko running through the street, talking into a cellphone

:Kyoko: "Shizuki Hitomi's nightmare...?" (ED. Note: the earlier translation seemed to indicate that Hitomi's so-called nightmare found a physical manifestation, but now I'm not so sure, considering there's no possessive marker. Then again, it must be important enough to mention in the preview.... [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 06:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC))

:*Sayaka in her school outfit(?), nervously grinning

:Sayaka: "Hitomi must be having trouble, huh. She made that insensitive guy her boyfriend and..."

:*Kyuubey's face

:Kyuubey: "Exactly. It's just like the value/ability of the witches you explained once, huh."

:*Kyouko, with her back turned to the screen

:Kyouko: "Calling me an 'idiot'... That's... not what you're doing, huh..."

:*she shaft-head-tilts toward the screen, with a serious look on her face

:Kyouko: "You're... serious, aren't you."

:*Kyuubey is shown with something reflecting in his eyes

:Homura (narration): "Nothing but sadness and hatred repeat. In this word that cannot be saved..."

:*closer inspection reveals the reflection to be Ultimate Madoka's silhouette in the starry sky

:Homura: "...the hope to chance upon that dear/missed smile once again..."

:*Ultimate Madoka's silhouette reflects in a shaft-head-tilting Sayaka's eyes as well, in space(?)

:Madoka: "Sorry to make you wait. Until now, you've continuously done your best, haven't you~"

:*Homura's face, surprised

:Homura: "...Madoka..."

:*the actual silhouette of Madoka, but she's on a rocky, moon/asteroid-like rock formation surface now, possibly in front of Homura

:Madoka: "Okay~ Let's go~"

:*coming 2013 screen

== Movie ending ==

Where has all of this new info about the movie ending being radically different from the anime series come from? I hope it's not all just from the audio preview for the third movie... --[[User:Knon|Knon]] 06:19, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:Mmmmmmyeah, I have a feeling this speculah has come from the audio. From what impressions I've read and skimmed, there are no changes to the ending's content-- for instance, I don't see anything being said about there being no Majuu (demons) or Sayaka not dying. I have a feeling that the third film might simply pick up sometime before that latter particular scene. [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 08:13, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
::It would really bother me if the reason Sayaka is back to life is because of ''Madoka Ex Machina'', it would really undermine the whole plot of the anime series as well as the cruel system that Urobuchi put in place. The reason Sayaka had to die (and insisted she needed to die) was to show that magical girls can still die, if he were to walk back from that by saying, "I decided to cheat and bring back Sayaka because of magic" would really be a cruel joke... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 11:15, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:::But there's nothing actually confirming that Sayaka has come back to life. Hearing her voice in the preview could mean anything: it could be a dream or a flashback, you name it. Like Animerican-Redeemed above, I haven't heard of any content changes, especially not something as drastic that would create wild speculations about a new universe. The reason I brought it up in the first place is because this information is already spread out on three pages (this one, 12th Episode, Yuri undertones). Frankly, even with it labelled as being highly speculative, until more people actually have access to the movies, I think the information is more confusing than anything. --[[User:Knon|Knon]] 14:11, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

==Ticket Sales==
We need info on ticket sales in Japan as well as international viewing, is there a way to have this info and post it on the page? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:08, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:(Also how much money the movie made in Japan and overseas too. If possible have a column showing their foreign currency and next to it changed into dollars --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:15, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-09/1st-madoka-magica-film-opens-at-no.7-with-over-us$1-million 1st Madoka Magica Film Opens at #7 With Over US$1 Million]
*[http://www.mangahere.com/news/puella-magi-madoka-magica-movies-tickets-sold-out/ Puella Magi Madoka Magica Movies Presale Tickets Sold Out in a Cinema in SFO]
I tried looking for some info regarding ticket sales, not a lot to work on. --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 15:47, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:Does anyone know where to find box office/ticket sales reliable data? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 15:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/10/15-1/otaku-legions-mobilize-for-second-madoka-magica-movie Movie #2 opening stats]. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 21:06, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-15/2nd-madoka-magica-film-ranks-no.2-with-us$2.18-million 2nd Madoka Magica Film Ranks #2 With US$2.18 Million] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 00:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

==New World Speculation==
The New World: Movie Version and Differences

<big>''(WARNING: THIS IS HIGHLY SPECULATIVE UNTIL RELEASE OF THE THIRD FILM)''</big>

There is speculation that the New World version of the movie is not the same from the anime series version. The New World concept of the movie version radically departs from the anime version that it alters the anime storyline. If the creators have made the story from the movie version a different story from that of the anime version, so we must consider both versions to be equally valid. If we consider the New World of the movie version and anime version to be canon then one acceptable explanation is that these two Worlds are from different universes. How these two Worlds are connected has not been explained. Since the universe from the anime series and the universe from the movie version share similarities but radical differences, they will both be treated as separate universes. The universe from the anime version will be indicated as '''Universe A''', and the universe from the movie version will be indicated as '''Universe M''', just as a matter of pragmatism.

*At first it seems like the cycle of suffering has been broken and that Witches have never existed in the New World of '''Universe M''', but this is proven to be false.
*Despair continues to haunt magical girls in the New World of '''Universe M'''.

*Sayaka is alive in '''Universe M'''. In '''Universe A''', Sayaka gave her life as a sacrifice and Ultimate Madoka accepted Sayaka's fate and wish. Not only does Madoka accept Sayaka's decision, but helps her to transition to what it is speculated to be the afterlife, so Sayaka's doesnt have any regrets from her choice. Why is Sayaka still alive in ''Universe M'' is not known. It is not clear yet if this is the result of Ultimate Madoka's interfering with Sayaka's fate or something else at work.
*Ultimate Madoka is able to show herself to Homura and perhaps interact with '''Universe M'''. In '''Universe A''', only Madoka's voice and presence could be felt by Homura.

:Perhaps Universe M is a prototype to Universe A, I mean, Madoka is a 4th grader, there is no way she would know how to completely tune the Universe from curse to hope in just one try. --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 20:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
::Alternatively, it could be that the Incubators began a counter attack that somehow jeopardized Madoka's Universe, I mean, there is a whole multiverse of timelines she has to watch over and if her wish works like a ripple effect then some time axis might be still undergoing transition. That also helps explaining the Online Game. --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 20:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
: In my opinion, I think someone may be overthinking this.--[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 22:18, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
::My guess: Nothing from the anime ending is changed, there's no alternate universe, the scene with Homura holding the ribbons after Sayaka dies comes halfway through the third movie, Homura reacts that way because it's her first time seeing a girl actually get taken away by Madoka, QB reports Homura's reminiscing to the mothership and they research it, they find a new and creative way to exploit girls, QB tests it on Hitomi, it does not go as planned, out-of-control test subjects turn into witches, and QB will drop by Homura's apartment to casually mention that he wouldn't mind her help cleaning up, since the deaths of all humans on Earth would interfere with reaching his quota in a timely manner. [[User:KM|KM]] 21:27, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Look, I know that there's a disclaimer about it being highly speculative, but still, this statement-- "The New World concept of the movie version radically departs from the anime version that it alters the anime storyline"-- sounds much too assumptive, much too "definitive" a statement from one making mere speculation. Again, is there anything at *all* in the second movie itself, discounting the trailer that has Sayaka's voice in it, that indicates a New World different from the one seen in the series? I've yet to hear anything about there being altered plot developments in the second movie; it sounds like everything shown in the series ending-- the Majuu, Madoka's wish, Sayaka's death, etc.-- hasn't been taken out. And even if Sayaka was brought back to life, would that really imply a "radically different" universe? [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 00:21, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
::The way I see is this, if Sayaka is brought back from the death, it undermines the argument of the cycle of suffering and the system in place since magical girls can be brought back to life (unless there is an acceptable explanation). On the other hand, if the story was an "What If" scenario or a different universe where Sayaka didnt die it wont undermine the concept that magical girls die. --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 00:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

:I saw the movie today and don't get what difference from the anime version. They look the same. After ED, however, there is some introduction about the 3rd movie, which is very different. Are you talking about that? --[[User:Yorkwoo|Yorkwoo]] 10:26, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

==Alternate Timelines?==
Someone help me out here. I remember reading something which said (either in the movie brochure or the Sport Hochi interview) that said the third movie will include timelines that we're cut out the anime. I can't find the source though, so I don't know how accurate this is. Has anyone read something like this, and if so, where? Thanks --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 01:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

==Trailer for Movie 3==
I went to one of the showings last night and recorded the movie 3 trailer for you guys. [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xui1co_pmmm-m3t_shortfilms Enjoy.] --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 17:04, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Thank you so much! [[Special:Contributions/208.120.155.143|208.120.155.143]] 03:39, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
::You know that feeling of getting your conception of a happy ending kicked out of your groin? Well, I am kind of getting those vibes. --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 04:14, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Urobuchi lied about a happy ending! --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 07:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Another version [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8L2jpGe-yk&feature=player_embedded Click to see]-- 21:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::Somebody reuploaded mine somewhere else already? You move fast, fandom. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 13:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::Dang, taken down to copyright violation (both links!). Guess they're more or less enforcing the warnings that I hear were given in the Music Box Theater in Chicago (and presumably the other theaters): do any filming, or get kicked out. Sigh.... well, uh, ahy chance of uploading a link to a ''private'' video of it again? --[[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 16:39, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I hear you can search for the dailymotion link in the archive of a certain imageboard and find threads where there's mediafire links, but those sorts of things probably shouldn't be directly provided on the wiki now that we know they want it taken down. (very nice work capturing the preview, though, that was exciting) [[User:KM|KM]] 19:42, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I still have the original copy I recorded, so I guess I could make a throw-away youtube account and upload it privately if it doesn't turn up again. My theater never made any announcement about no recording, but in general, the NYC showing was the worst of all of them, so I guess this is the upside. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 20:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::"NYC showing was the worst of all of them" What do you mean by that? I had REALLY wanted to go, but... sold out tickets. :( So I'm curious to know what you mean. [[User:YazzyDream|YazzyDream]]

==Yahoo auction==
*[http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/10/21-1/madoka-x-homura-madoka-magica-film-strip-auctioned-for-over-1-million-yen Madoka x Homura "Madoka Magica" Film Strip Auctioned for Over 1 Million Yen]
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-10-20/madoka-magica-film-strip-auctioned-for-us$8300+ Madoka Magica Film Strip Auctioned for US$8,300+]
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-10-21/madoka-magica-film-strip-auction-ends-at-us$13600 Madoka Magica Film Strip Auction Ends at US$13,600]
*[http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d133919334 yahoo auction]

Talk:Madoka Magica Movie

2012-10-23T20:14:07Z

YazzyDream: /* Trailer for Movie 3 */

Huh. The subtitles for these films are, uh, unexciting. Are they going to go ahead with a "Story" motif for the third film's title? If so, maybe they'll go with something as pompous as "The Greatest Story Ever Told." (Of course, with no Swedish Jesus in sight ;-).) [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 06:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
:I thought it was pretty nice that they name the first film "[[Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story|The Beginning Story]]". --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 08:50, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

The movie is going to be a simultaneous release, any idea how long is the duration? Something tells me hardcore fans will try to watch both of them together on the same day--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 09:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

==link==
[[File:Madokagoodies comiket.jpg|right]]
*[http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-10953.html anyone knows what it says?]--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 00:27, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/interest/2012-08-03/madoka-magica-fate/zero-comiket-exclusives-revealed Madoka Magica, Fate/Zero's Comiket Exclusives Revealed]
*[https://wiki.puella-magi.net/File_talk:New_magical_girl_character_magazine_article_2012.jpg New character Hoax] Damn trolls --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 06:52, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

==Differences, Quality==
[http://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/news/2012-08-25/madoka-magica-films-ad-streamed-with-theme-by-claris-duo Madoka Magica Films' Ad Aired With New Theme by ClariS]

''A 30-second commercial began airing for the first two Puella Magi Madoka Magica films on Saturday, and it features the new theme song "Luminous" by the teenaged female duo ClariS.'' (yep, new song) --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:35, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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File:Movie version diff.jpg
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the movie version quality will be different than the tv and blu-ray. are we going to add a new subsection for that? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:35, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

[http://youtu.be/Fem01BT51Eo Mezamashi TV just aired a feature this morning] with clips from the movies that features a fancied up transformation sequence for both Sayaka and Mami (as well as completely new material). [http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-12156.html Screens can be found here] in case the YT link gets taken down.--[[User:Ren|ren]] 23:53, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

==Movie Premiere==
[[File:Madoka Magica in the fucking Grand Rex.jpg|right|300px]]
Is anyone is going to go or can go? If so, would anyone like to take notes or pics so it can be contributed to the wikia? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 02:29, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
:I plan on going to the NYC one, so I'll try to take notes if I can. No guarantees on pictures. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 02:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

:I'm going to the San Francisco one and don't mind taking photos/notes. --[[User:Ren|ren]] 05:34, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
::Back from the San Francisco show. I got some shots of the crowd and have some notes from memory ready to type out, but it'll take a while... all I'll say for now is watching with a non-JP audience might have ruined the experience a bit.--[[User:Ren|ren]] 10:26, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

:I'm heading to the LA one on a Saturday. I can't believe it's almost upon me already. I'll be sure to acquire someone's camera so I can snap some photos as keepsake, and I'll try to purchase everything. M-maybe I can purchase multiples of some things and give them away as gifts to #madoka. [[User:Holycrap|Holycrap]] 08:14, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

*[https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=433609743340911&set=a.197162296985658.38734.196941927007695&type=1&relevant_count=1 Madoka Magica Premiere at San Francisco & L.A. meetup facebook]
*[https://twitter.com/aniplexUSA/status/250373658902675456 Attn Houston Fans: Tickets are now on Sale for the Madoka Screening at the Alamo Drafthouse.] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 06:04, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

==Movie Premiere in Japan==
Has the movie premiered yet in Japan? (I get a bit confused by the time difference) If so, is there any news out? --[[User:Silvermoon424|Silvermoon424]] 16:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

It already premiered about a day ago or so. Some kind Japanese Anon already offered a write up of the most notable things. Here it is:

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Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story

I watched this yesterday and want to write down my observation and thoughts, just for your curiosity. Excuse me for my poor English though, it’s not my mother tongue.

Also, SPOILER WARNING

First of all;

1) They said it was going to be a recap. I say, SHINBO THE MASTER TROLLER. Every scenes have got certain changes-more or less-and, as far as I remember, all nearly all of the highlights scenes have been REDRAWN. It’s not merely a recap; I would call it a complete overhaul.

2) Those changes are so significant that, even though I had recently watched Madoka all over again-for my fourth time-on Niconico last week, it just felt like a completely new anime. If you haven’t watched Madoka for a while, I guarantee, it will be just as fresh as it was in 2011.

Story

1) There are not many changes or differences and most of them seem to be insignificant. I recognized some changes in the order of certain scenes, probably to join all the separate episodes together into a single continuing piece.

2) The first part, as it was revealed earlier in the morning, covers the first 8 episodes; it ends with ‘I’m such a fool’ and that god damn Kyubey lecturing us about the meaning of mahout-shojo.

Scenes

1) Apparently, there are few scenes that have been cut out, like the one with Madoka in a cafe asking Homura if she could help Sayaka. The dialogue itself seems to be absorbed into the other scene on the school’s roof. The scene where Sayaka makes her contract is also made very brief, with no dialogue at all.

2) There are four transformation sequences; new ones each for Sayaka and Kyoko, TWO FOR MAMI. They are of course much better than the ones on the TV series. Sayaka’s transformation takes place underwater and clearly resembles that of the little mermaid, or maybe her fate. Kyoko performs a nice dance with her spear while transforming, if you know what I mean.

3) It shows Mami’s Soul Gem getting shattered into pieces when Charlotte does MOGUMOGU. The entire sequence -Mami vs Charlotte- has actually become a little bit more crual, although I can’t explain why and how. Maybe because the way Charlotte moves, or it could be something about that new soundtrack.

4) For those who are concerned about all those beautiful shaft necks; rejoice. You can enjoy those nice angles of 90 degrees on the huge cinema screen.

5) THAT INU-CURRY WORLD FILLING THE ENTIRE CINEMA SCREEN.

6) The very last part of the new ending animation features an unknown pink silhouette -most likely that of Godoka- with another silhouette that is somewhat smaller and floating inside its belly, or womb?

Music

1) This is where I'm giving the most credit. Kajiura has once again done a magnificent job. I just can’t imagine the Madoka universe anymore without her works.

2) There are a number of new soundtracks; including the other two of which I haven't even heard so far. There are three -so far as I’ve counted- newly rearranged Sis Puella Magica(the main theme), two for Conturbatio(the Sayaka theme); one of those is a vocal version and played during the Sayaka vs Elsa Maria. It sounds something like an aria -like one from opera-makes the scene even more tragic. It is so heart breaking.

3) Credens Justitiam also has got a vocal version, definitely by Kalafina. You can assume how much Shaft cares about Mami.

4) The Homura vs Charlotte battle has got a new soundtrack, as well as the scene where Sayaka turns into a witch ;_; If you prefer Decretum, you might be a bit disappointed, although the new soundtrack is just as amazing.

5) EVEN WITCHES HAVE GOT THEIR OWN THEME SOUNDTRACK. Both Charlotte and Television-chan. the Charlotte theme is pretty nice. You can hardly wait for the release of the new soundtrack. I think there is one for Elsa Maria as well, but not sure if it was just the vocal version of Conturbatio which I have just mentioned above.

6) The ending theme is the movie arrange of Magia, at the full length. The new ending animation is, put it simply, an extended version of the original TV one, featuring silhouettes of several unknown magical girls before those of the main characters appear in the way like they did in the original one.

Trivia

1) They're now studying in a cathedral. I'm not even joking.

2) Mitagihara City now looks more urbanized then even NYC. Must be renamed St.Madokaburg or something.

3) Mrs Kaname is just as bro as she is in the TV series.

4) The teacher is still struggling with fertility stuff. No peace for poor Nakazawa-kun.

5) For the first time, they say, Madoka appears in a plain clothe! Remember that previously in the TV serious she shows only three types of outfit; school uniform, magical girl’s dress, and pajama.

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Archive of the thread is here: http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72622214/

[[User:MochaCoffee|MochaCoffee]] 18:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

:Oh, my gosh, this sounds INCREDIBLE! This will definitely please everybody who is complaining about two "recap" movies being released. I can't wait to see screencaps! --[[User:Silvermoon424|Silvermoon424]] 01:07, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:4chan is going crazy with that pregnancy speculation, /u/ is going nuts, talking about Madoka and Homura's baby! --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 13:45, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Another madoka movie thread http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72986699/ --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:27, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

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*[http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=30620855 someone saw and liked the movie] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 01:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
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*how was the second movie? Any good news? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 07:37, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://beatarai.blog90.fc2.com/blog-entry-2639.html Japanese fan comments about the movie] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 02:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

==Movie Thread /a/==
I am not keeping a track on these threads, but if anyone is willing to do so, try to see if they can be done in order.

*http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72622214/
*http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72986699/
*http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/73059493

== Luminous Lyrics ==

Found a romaji translation of the full lyrics. Not sure if its 100% accurate, but it seems legit after listening to Luminous while reading the lyrics.

:Tsutaeatta kokoro no ondo wo
:Sotto daiji sou ni kakae aruite ita

:Kotae no nai negai no naka de
:Kotoba wa mirai kaete

:Osanai koro zutto yume ni mite ita watashi ni wa mada
:Tooi kedo kimi ga ireba
:Sukoshi wa tsuyoku nareru ki ga shite
:Ashita no iro wo kasane nutta

:Yonda kibou tadotte tometa sekai wo koeta
:Akiramenai omoi itsu shika kokoro tsunageta
:Naite itatte waratte ashita mukae ni yukou
:Kimeta chikai tsurakute taorete mo
:Kimi no kokoro wo mamoru tame

:Kioku no nai toki no nagare ni
:Kitto motomete ita atatakasa wa atte

:Tsutsumareta shunkan subete no
:Omoi wa kimi he meguru

:Sora ni mukatte hashiri te ni shita
:Ikutsu mono toutoi hikari mune ni shimatte
:Watashi no naka no kagayaki ni kae
:Mayoi wo zenbu haratte tobou

:Seikai no mienai irikunda meiro wo nuke
:Kimi ga nagashita namida de kokoro mezameta
:Soshite shitta sekai wa konna ni mo mada kirei de
:Atarashii kanousei wo umu darou
:Toki no kakera no negai kara

:Sukui shinjite wareta omoi
:Watashi ga hajimari ni tatte
:Kimi no egao torimodosu yo
:Shinjitsu no kiseki ni natte

:Yonda kibou tadotte tometa sekai wo koeta
:Akiramenai omoi itsu shika kokoro tsunageta
:Naite itatte waratte ashita mukae ni yukou
:Kimeta chikai tsurakute taorete mo
:Kimi no kokoro wo mamoru tame
:Kimi no soba ni iyou

Source: http://beautifulsonglyrics.blogspot.com/2012/10/claris-luminous-lyrics.html#ixzz297dSwvLQ

EDIT: WELP, I seem to have found someone on tumblr who roughly translated the lyrics already in english. http://sparklyspacehugs.tumblr.com/post/33149041498/this-translation-is-a-work-in-progress-sup

--[[User:Riga92|Riga92]] 21:23, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

== Film Strips ==

Here are galleries of the film strips the Japanese fans have been posting. Looks like quite a number of scenes have been reanimated. --[[User:Knon|Knon]] 17:13, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://imgur.com/a/U4qoU#0 Gallery #1]
*[http://imgur.com/a/X7XiZ#0 Gallery #2]
*[http://imgur.com/a/D9a9E#0 Gallery #3]
*[http://imgur.com/a/ScwZg#0 Gallery #4]
*[http://imgur.com/a/BORT4#0 Gallery #5]
*[http://imgur.com/a/2ZOzn#0 Gallery #6]

[http://himarin.net/archives/6675148.html another source of film strips] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:26, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

==Audio from End-of-The-Everlasting-Story Preview==
Translated by /a/:

"Witches— The most evil harbingers of despair. As well as the accursed final form of magical girls who have fallen into despair. Once before, I had repeated the same time again and again, to wage war against that cruel fate. And in the end, with a single girl as a sacrifice, the cruel cycle of hope and despair was broken. The world was guided towards a new truth. Or so it seemed…

Mami: "Don't even think of chasing me… or we'll have to fight."

Kyoko: "Isn't that Hitomi's nightmare's…"

Sayaka: "Hitomi must have it rough, huh. She tried to make that insensitive blockhead her boyfriend and all…"

QB: "I'm almost certain that that's the very ability of those witches you once told me about…"

Kyoko: "You really don't look like you're trying to make fun of me. You're serious, aren't you?"

Homura: "There's nothing but a cycle of sadness and hatred. I dream of the day that sorely missed smile comes back to this hopeless world."

Madoka: "Sorry for making you wait. You've always been giving it your all, haven't you?"

Homura: "…Madoka."

Madoka: "Let's go now. From now on, we'll be together forever."

:An alternate, more literal(?) and independently done translation, courtesy of ANN user Juno016. Includes physical descriptions of preview. [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 06:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
:*the preview starts with the camera panning across rubble with painted figures of each of the magical girls

:Homura (narration): Witches-- Those are the disaster "demons" (lit. "Magic users") who spread despair. And, the magical girls who have fallen into despair, and in the end, are reduced to a cursed form. The me living then, repeating the same time over and over, to fight against that cruel fate. And finally, a lone girl's sacrifice, therefore cutting the cruel chains of hope and despair, expectantly guiding the world to a new truth. ...or so it would seem...

:*actual clips from the third movie

:*Mami talking to someone off-screen with a cautious grin on her face

:Mami: "Don't think of following me..."

:*we see Mami and Kyouko in their magical girl forms in a parking lot(?), weapons ready

:Mami: "...or did you come to fight..."

:*Kyouko running through the street, talking into a cellphone

:Kyoko: "Shizuki Hitomi's nightmare...?" (ED. Note: the earlier translation seemed to indicate that Hitomi's so-called nightmare found a physical manifestation, but now I'm not so sure, considering there's no possessive marker. Then again, it must be important enough to mention in the preview.... [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 06:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC))

:*Sayaka in her school outfit(?), nervously grinning

:Sayaka: "Hitomi must be having trouble, huh. She made that insensitive guy her boyfriend and..."

:*Kyuubey's face

:Kyuubey: "Exactly. It's just like the value/ability of the witches you explained once, huh."

:*Kyouko, with her back turned to the screen

:Kyouko: "Calling me an 'idiot'... That's... not what you're doing, huh..."

:*she shaft-head-tilts toward the screen, with a serious look on her face

:Kyouko: "You're... serious, aren't you."

:*Kyuubey is shown with something reflecting in his eyes

:Homura (narration): "Nothing but sadness and hatred repeat. In this word that cannot be saved..."

:*closer inspection reveals the reflection to be Ultimate Madoka's silhouette in the starry sky

:Homura: "...the hope to chance upon that dear/missed smile once again..."

:*Ultimate Madoka's silhouette reflects in a shaft-head-tilting Sayaka's eyes as well, in space(?)

:Madoka: "Sorry to make you wait. Until now, you've continuously done your best, haven't you~"

:*Homura's face, surprised

:Homura: "...Madoka..."

:*the actual silhouette of Madoka, but she's on a rocky, moon/asteroid-like rock formation surface now, possibly in front of Homura

:Madoka: "Okay~ Let's go~"

:*coming 2013 screen

== Movie ending ==

Where has all of this new info about the movie ending being radically different from the anime series come from? I hope it's not all just from the audio preview for the third movie... --[[User:Knon|Knon]] 06:19, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:Mmmmmmyeah, I have a feeling this speculah has come from the audio. From what impressions I've read and skimmed, there are no changes to the ending's content-- for instance, I don't see anything being said about there being no Majuu (demons) or Sayaka not dying. I have a feeling that the third film might simply pick up sometime before that latter particular scene. [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 08:13, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
::It would really bother me if the reason Sayaka is back to life is because of ''Madoka Ex Machina'', it would really undermine the whole plot of the anime series as well as the cruel system that Urobuchi put in place. The reason Sayaka had to die (and insisted she needed to die) was to show that magical girls can still die, if he were to walk back from that by saying, "I decided to cheat and bring back Sayaka because of magic" would really be a cruel joke... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 11:15, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:::But there's nothing actually confirming that Sayaka has come back to life. Hearing her voice in the preview could mean anything: it could be a dream or a flashback, you name it. Like Animerican-Redeemed above, I haven't heard of any content changes, especially not something as drastic that would create wild speculations about a new universe. The reason I brought it up in the first place is because this information is already spread out on three pages (this one, 12th Episode, Yuri undertones). Frankly, even with it labelled as being highly speculative, until more people actually have access to the movies, I think the information is more confusing than anything. --[[User:Knon|Knon]] 14:11, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

==Ticket Sales==
We need info on ticket sales in Japan as well as international viewing, is there a way to have this info and post it on the page? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:08, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:(Also how much money the movie made in Japan and overseas too. If possible have a column showing their foreign currency and next to it changed into dollars --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 12:15, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-09/1st-madoka-magica-film-opens-at-no.7-with-over-us$1-million 1st Madoka Magica Film Opens at #7 With Over US$1 Million]
*[http://www.mangahere.com/news/puella-magi-madoka-magica-movies-tickets-sold-out/ Puella Magi Madoka Magica Movies Presale Tickets Sold Out in a Cinema in SFO]
I tried looking for some info regarding ticket sales, not a lot to work on. --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 15:47, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
:Does anyone know where to find box office/ticket sales reliable data? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 15:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/10/15-1/otaku-legions-mobilize-for-second-madoka-magica-movie Movie #2 opening stats]. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 21:06, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-15/2nd-madoka-magica-film-ranks-no.2-with-us$2.18-million 2nd Madoka Magica Film Ranks #2 With US$2.18 Million] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 00:53, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

==New World Speculation==
The New World: Movie Version and Differences

<big>''(WARNING: THIS IS HIGHLY SPECULATIVE UNTIL RELEASE OF THE THIRD FILM)''</big>

There is speculation that the New World version of the movie is not the same from the anime series version. The New World concept of the movie version radically departs from the anime version that it alters the anime storyline. If the creators have made the story from the movie version a different story from that of the anime version, so we must consider both versions to be equally valid. If we consider the New World of the movie version and anime version to be canon then one acceptable explanation is that these two Worlds are from different universes. How these two Worlds are connected has not been explained. Since the universe from the anime series and the universe from the movie version share similarities but radical differences, they will both be treated as separate universes. The universe from the anime version will be indicated as '''Universe A''', and the universe from the movie version will be indicated as '''Universe M''', just as a matter of pragmatism.

*At first it seems like the cycle of suffering has been broken and that Witches have never existed in the New World of '''Universe M''', but this is proven to be false.
*Despair continues to haunt magical girls in the New World of '''Universe M'''.

*Sayaka is alive in '''Universe M'''. In '''Universe A''', Sayaka gave her life as a sacrifice and Ultimate Madoka accepted Sayaka's fate and wish. Not only does Madoka accept Sayaka's decision, but helps her to transition to what it is speculated to be the afterlife, so Sayaka's doesnt have any regrets from her choice. Why is Sayaka still alive in ''Universe M'' is not known. It is not clear yet if this is the result of Ultimate Madoka's interfering with Sayaka's fate or something else at work.
*Ultimate Madoka is able to show herself to Homura and perhaps interact with '''Universe M'''. In '''Universe A''', only Madoka's voice and presence could be felt by Homura.

:Perhaps Universe M is a prototype to Universe A, I mean, Madoka is a 4th grader, there is no way she would know how to completely tune the Universe from curse to hope in just one try. --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 20:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
::Alternatively, it could be that the Incubators began a counter attack that somehow jeopardized Madoka's Universe, I mean, there is a whole multiverse of timelines she has to watch over and if her wish works like a ripple effect then some time axis might be still undergoing transition. That also helps explaining the Online Game. --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 20:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
: In my opinion, I think someone may be overthinking this.--[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 22:18, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
::My guess: Nothing from the anime ending is changed, there's no alternate universe, the scene with Homura holding the ribbons after Sayaka dies comes halfway through the third movie, Homura reacts that way because it's her first time seeing a girl actually get taken away by Madoka, QB reports Homura's reminiscing to the mothership and they research it, they find a new and creative way to exploit girls, QB tests it on Hitomi, it does not go as planned, out-of-control test subjects turn into witches, and QB will drop by Homura's apartment to casually mention that he wouldn't mind her help cleaning up, since the deaths of all humans on Earth would interfere with reaching his quota in a timely manner. [[User:KM|KM]] 21:27, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Look, I know that there's a disclaimer about it being highly speculative, but still, this statement-- "The New World concept of the movie version radically departs from the anime version that it alters the anime storyline"-- sounds much too assumptive, much too "definitive" a statement from one making mere speculation. Again, is there anything at *all* in the second movie itself, discounting the trailer that has Sayaka's voice in it, that indicates a New World different from the one seen in the series? I've yet to hear anything about there being altered plot developments in the second movie; it sounds like everything shown in the series ending-- the Majuu, Madoka's wish, Sayaka's death, etc.-- hasn't been taken out. And even if Sayaka was brought back to life, would that really imply a "radically different" universe? [[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 00:21, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
::The way I see is this, if Sayaka is brought back from the death, it undermines the argument of the cycle of suffering and the system in place since magical girls can be brought back to life (unless there is an acceptable explanation). On the other hand, if the story was an "What If" scenario or a different universe where Sayaka didnt die it wont undermine the concept that magical girls die. --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 00:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

:I saw the movie today and don't get what difference from the anime version. They look the same. After ED, however, there is some introduction about the 3rd movie, which is very different. Are you talking about that? --[[User:Yorkwoo|Yorkwoo]] 10:26, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

==Alternate Timelines?==
Someone help me out here. I remember reading something which said (either in the movie brochure or the Sport Hochi interview) that said the third movie will include timelines that we're cut out the anime. I can't find the source though, so I don't know how accurate this is. Has anyone read something like this, and if so, where? Thanks --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 01:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

==Trailer for Movie 3==
I went to one of the showings last night and recorded the movie 3 trailer for you guys. [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xui1co_pmmm-m3t_shortfilms Enjoy.] --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 17:04, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:Thank you so much! [[Special:Contributions/208.120.155.143|208.120.155.143]] 03:39, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
::You know that feeling of getting your conception of a happy ending kicked out of your groin? Well, I am kind of getting those vibes. --[[User:Derp101(3)|Derp101(3)]] 04:14, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Urobuchi lied about a happy ending! --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 07:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
::::Another version [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8L2jpGe-yk&feature=player_embedded Click to see]-- 21:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::Somebody reuploaded mine somewhere else already? You move fast, fandom. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 13:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::Dang, taken down to copyright violation (both links!). Guess they're more or less enforcing the warnings that I hear were given in the Music Box Theater in Chicago (and presumably the other theaters): do any filming, or get kicked out. Sigh.... well, uh, ahy chance of uploading a link to a ''private'' video of it again? --[[User:Animerican-Redeemed|Animerican-Redeemed]] 16:39, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I hear you can search for the dailymotion link in the archive of a certain imageboard and find threads where there's mediafire links, but those sorts of things probably shouldn't be directly provided on the wiki now that we know they want it taken down. (very nice work capturing the preview, though, that was exciting) [[User:KM|KM]] 19:42, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I still have the original copy I recorded, so I guess I could make a throw-away youtube account and upload it privately if it doesn't turn up again. My theater never made any announcement about no recording, but in general, the NYC showing was the worst of all of them, so I guess this is the upside. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 20:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::"NYC showing was the worst of all of them" What do you mean by that? I had REALLY wanted to go, but... sold out tickets. :( So I'm curious to know what you mean. [[User:YazzyDream|YazzyDream]]

==Yahoo auction==
*[http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/10/21-1/madoka-x-homura-madoka-magica-film-strip-auctioned-for-over-1-million-yen Madoka x Homura "Madoka Magica" Film Strip Auctioned for Over 1 Million Yen]
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-10-20/madoka-magica-film-strip-auctioned-for-us$8300+ Madoka Magica Film Strip Auctioned for US$8,300+]
*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-10-21/madoka-magica-film-strip-auction-ends-at-us$13600 Madoka Magica Film Strip Auction Ends at US$13,600]
*[http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d133919334 yahoo auction]

User:YazzyDream

2012-10-03T06:15:39Z

YazzyDream: Created page with "Hello, I've been a lurker for a while now. Since the time the anime was still showing. Finally decided to go ahead and make an account."

Hello, I've been a lurker for a while now. Since the time the anime was still showing. Finally decided to go ahead and make an account.

Grief Seeds

2012-09-22T08:09:48Z

YazzyDream: /* Unnamed Viking girl */ I'd say it looks more like a horn.

[[File:Soul gem grief seed sketch.jpg|right|thumb]]
This page lists information and speculation about the grief seeds that appear in each episode of the anime and chapter of the different manga spinoffs.

==By episode==

===Episode 2===
[[File:Fanart Soul Gem.jpg|right|150px]]
[[File:Grief_seed.png|300px|Gertrud's Grief Seed.]]
'''[[Gertrud]]'s Grief Seed.'''

The Grief Seed that Mami obtained from Gertrud.
*'''Top emblem''': Butterfly
*'''Bottom emblem''':Rose
*'''Battles''': Mami
*'''Possession''': Kyubey ''(presumed)''
*'''Used by''': Mami

===Episode 3===
[[File:Charlotte_grief_large2.jpg|300px|Charlotte's grief seed on the hospital wall.]]
'''[[Charlotte]]'s Grief Seed.'''

The Grief Seed found embedded in a hospital wall.
*'''Top emblem''': Strawberry
*'''Bottom emblem''': Charlotte's head
*'''Battles''': Mami, Homura
*'''Possession''': Homura
*'''Used by''': Unknown
<gallery>
File:Charlotte seed.png|Charlotte's grief seed vector.
File:Charlotte_grief_large.jpg|The seed glows as it begins to activate
File:Charlotte_activating.jpg|A close-up of the seed's emblem just before Charlotte appears
File:Mami-gem-vs-charlotte-seed.png|Comparison of Charlotte's grief seed and Mami's soul gem
</gallery>

===Episode 4===
[[File:EllyGS.png|Elly's Grief Seed]]
'''[[Elly]]'s Grief Seed.'''

Elly's Grief Seed, not originally seen in the episode. It was added in the AT-X rebroadcast.

*'''Top emblem''': Wing
*'''Bottom emblem''': Monitor
*'''Battles''': Sayaka
*'''Possession''': Unknown
*'''Used by''': Sayaka

===Episode 6===
[[File:Speculah Elly's seed.jpg|150px|Elly's grief seed speculah]]
'''[[Elly]]'s Grief Seed.'''

Initially speculated to be [[Elly]]'s grief seed, which was proven true as it was added to the revised Episode 4.
*'''Top emblem''': Wing
*'''Bottom emblem''': Monitor
*'''Battles''': Sayaka
*'''Possession''': Kyubey
*'''Used by''': Sayaka

===Episode 8===
[[File:Elsa grief seed.jpg|300px]]
'''[[Elsa Maria]]'s Grief Seed.'''

After defeating Elsa Maria, Sayaka gives this Grief Seed to Kyoko as repayment for her assistance.
*'''Top emblem''': Crown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Blank
*'''Battles''': Sayaka, Kyoko
*'''Possession''': Kyoko
*'''Used by''': none ''(presumed)''

[[File:E8-grief-seed.PNG|300px|The grief seed Homura gives to Sayaka.]]
'''The witch of the Netherlands's Grief Seed.'''

The Grief Seed Homura gives to Sayaka, who refused it. According to [http://wiki.puella-magi.net/File:PN_60.jpg this] design document, it belongs to the "witch of the Netherlands (オランダの魔女)".
*'''Top emblem''': Tulip
*'''Bottom emblem''': Windmill
*'''Battles''': Homura ''(presumed)''
*'''Possession''': Homura
*'''Used by''': none ''(presumed)''

[[File:Sayaka-soul-gem-grief-seed-transition.JPG|300px|Sayaka's soul gem transforming into a grief seed.]]
'''[[Oktavia von Seckendorff]]'s Grief Seed.'''

Sayaka's Grief Seed, immediately after exploding.
*'''Top emblem''': Music note
*'''Bottom emblem''': Music note
*'''Battles''': Kyoko in [[Episode 9]]
*'''Possession''': Unknown
*'''Used by''': Unknown

===Episode 10===
[[File:Fan creation jewelry soul gem grief seed.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Fanmade jewelry of a Soul Gem and Grief Seed]]
[[File:Grief Seed from episode 10.PNG|300px|The Grief Seed may be Sayaka's]]
'''[[Oktavia]]'s Grief Seed.'''

Sayaka's Grief Seed from the third timeline.
*'''Top emblem''': Music note
*'''Bottom emblem''': Music note
*'''Battles''': Homura, Madoka, Mami, Kyoko
*'''Possession''': Madoka
*'''Used by''': Homura

[[File:Madoka-grief-seed.png|300px]]
'''[[Kriemhild Gretchen]]'s Grief Seed.'''

Madoka's Grief Seed, the cutest Grief Seed ever.
*'''Top emblem''': Teardrop with ribbons
*'''Bottom emblem''': Comet
*'''Battles''': none
*'''Possession''': Madoka
*'''Used by''': none

===Episode 11===
[[File:Homura grief seed.png|300px]]
'''[[Homura]]'s Grief Seed.'''

Shown in [[Kyubey]]'s speech about how Homura would drown in despair, if she ever lost hope.
*'''Top emblem''': Diamond
*'''Bottom emblem''': Diamond
*'''Battles''': none
*'''Possession''': none
*'''Used by''': none

===Episode 12===
[[File:Soul Gem and Grief Seed Cubic Form.png|250px]]
'''"Grief Seeds" in cubic form taken from "[[:File:Demons.png|Demons]]."'''

The Grief Seeds take a cubic form in [[Episode 12]]. It is not known if they are still called Grief Seeds or if they have a different name (Grief Cubes?).
*'''Emblems''': none
*'''Battles''': Homura, Kyoko, Mami, Sayaka
*'''Possession''': Homura
*'''Used by''': Homura

===Mami's Heart-Pounding Tiro Finale===
[[File:Ophelia_grief_seed.jpg]]
[[Ophelia]]'s Grief Seed, from Mami's Heart-Pounding Tiro Finale

*'''Top emblem''': Eye
*'''Bottom emblem''': Eye
*'''Battles''': Homura
*'''Possession''': Homura (presumed)
*'''Used by''': none

===Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable===
[[File:Albertine_grief_seed.png]]
[[Albertine]]'s Grief Seed, from [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable]]

*'''Top emblem''': Star
*'''Bottom emblem''': Flower
*'''Battles''': Varies
*'''Possession''': Varies
*'''Used by''': Varies

[[File:Gisela_grief_seed.png]]
[[Gisela]]'s Grief Seed, from [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable]]

*'''Top emblem''': Handlebars
*'''Bottom emblem''': Grille
*'''Battles''': Mami or Kyouko
*'''Possession''': Mami or Kyouko
*'''Used by''': Varies

[[File:Izabel_grief_seed.png]]
[[Izabel]]'s Grief Seed, from [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable]]

*'''Top emblem''': Trophy
*'''Bottom emblem''': Archway
*'''Battles''': Mami and Madoka or Kyouko and Sayaka
*'''Possession''': Mami and Madoka or Kyouko and Sayaka
*'''Used by''': Varies

[[File:Patricia_grief_seed.PNG]]
[[Patricia]]'s Grief Seed, from [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable]]

*'''Top emblem''': Cherry blossom
*'''Bottom emblem''': Spider eyes
*'''Battles''': Mami, Madoka and Homura
*'''Possession''': Mami, Madoka and Homura
*'''Used by''': Varies

[[File:Candeloro grief seed.png]]
[[Candeloro]]'s Grief Seed, from [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable]]

*'''Top emblem''': Flower
*'''Bottom emblem''': Flower
*'''Battles''': Madoka and Homura
*'''Possession''': Madoka and Homura
*'''Used by''': Varies

[[File:Ophelia grief seed PSP.png]]
[[Ophelia]]'s Grief Seed, from [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable]]

*'''Top emblem''': Eye
*'''Bottom emblem''': Eye
*'''Battles''': Homura
*'''Possession''': Homura
*'''Used by''': Varies

[[File:Walpurgisnacht_grief_seed.PNG]]
[[Walpurgis Night]]'s Grief Seed, from [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable]]

*'''Top emblem''': Gear
*'''Bottom emblem''': Gear
*'''Battles''': Varies
*'''Possession''': Varies
*'''Used by''': Varies

===Oriko Magica, chapter 1===
[[File:Flower_witch_grief_seed.JPG|250px]]
'''The witch of flowers' Grief Seed.'''

Presumably the Grief Seed of the flower witch that attacked [[Yuma]].
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Battles''': Kyoko
*'''Possession''': Kyoko
*'''Used by''': none ''(presumed)''

===Oriko Magica, chapter 2===
[[File:Cecil_grief_seed.JPG|250px]]
'''[[Cecil]]'s Grief Seed.'''

The Grief Seed of the Taste Witch that [[Kyoko]] battled.
*'''Top emblem''': Rosary
*'''Bottom emblem''': Cherry petals
*'''Battles''': Kyoko
*'''Possession''': Kyoko
*'''Used by''': Kyoko ''(presumed)''

===Oriko Magica, chapter 5===
[[File:Kirika_grief_seed.JPG|200px]]
'''[[Margot]]'s Grief Seed.'''

The outline of [[Kirika]]'s Grief Seed, visible within her Soul Gem prior to becoming a witch.
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Battles''': Kyoko, Mami, Yuma, Homura
*'''Possession''': none
*'''Used by''': none ''(presumed)''

===Kazumi Magica, Chapter 4===
[[File:PrologueGriefSeed.png|150px]]
'''[[Prologue]]'s Grief Seed.'''

The bookmobile witch's Grief Seed, given to [[Jubey]] by the [[Pleiades]].
*'''Top emblem''': Oval
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown (compass points?)
*'''Battles''': The Pleiades Saints
*'''Possession''': Jubey
*'''Used by''': none

===Kazumi Magica, chapter 5===
[[File:AiriGriefSeed.png|200px]]
'''[[Nie Blühen Herzen]]'s Grief Seed.'''

"[[Yuuri]]", aka [[Airi]]'s, Grief Seed.
*'''Top emblem''': Flower (?)
*'''Bottom emblem''': Flower (?)
*'''Battles''': The Pleiades Saints
*'''Possession''': The Pleiades Saints, Jubey ''(presumed)''
*'''Used by''': none ''(presumed)''

===Kazumi Magica, chapter 9===
[[File:KazumiChapter9GriefSeed.png|150px]]
'''[[Nico Kanna]]'s Grief Seed.'''

*'''Top emblem''': Diamond/Square
*'''Bottom emblem''': Diamond/Square
*'''Battles''': The Pleiades Saints
*'''Possession''': The Pleiades Saints, Jubey ''(presumed)''
*'''Used by''': none ''(presumed)''

===Kazumi Magica, chapter 15===
[[File:Satomi_grief_seed.PNG|150px]]
'''[[Satomi Usagi]]'s Grief Seed.'''

*'''Top emblem''': Bat wing
*'''Bottom emblem''': Bat wing
*'''Battles''': Kazumi
*'''Possession''': The Pleiades Saints, Jubey ''(presumed)''
*'''Used by''': none ''(presumed)''

===Kazumi Magica, chapter 18===
[[File:Chapter_18_grief_seed.png|200px]][[File:KazumiChapter19GriefSeed.png|200px]]
'''[[Saki Asami]]'s Grief Seed.'''

*'''Top emblem''': Lily-of-the-valley
*'''Bottom emblem''': Lily-of-the-valley
*'''Battles''': Kanna Hijiri and other witches
*'''Possession''': Umika, Saki and Kazumi
*'''Used by''': Kazumi

===Kazumi Magica, chapter 19===
[[File:KazumiChapter19GriefSeedPart2.png]]
'''The [[Souju]]'s Grief Seeds'''

*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Battles''': Umika and Kaoru
*'''Possession''': No one (presumed)
*'''Used by''': No one (presumed)

==Soul Gems==
This is a compilation of every magical girl's soul gems' emblems and their locations. Soul gems come in three forms: the [http://wiki.puella-magi.net/File:Soul_gem.png| gem form], the [http://wiki.puella-magi.net/File:Ep10-09-00.jpg| ring form] (though it is sometimes not a ring, but a hairpin, earring, or other piece of jewelery), and the transformation form, the shape of which is unique to each individual girl and gem.

Note that soul gem and grief seed are not English translations of Japanese words, but the actual English words spoken in the anime. Therefore, it's possible that it was intentionally chosen, and not merely coincidental, for the initials of grief seed (GS) to be the reverse of soul gem (SG). If so, it would appropriately reflect the role reversal that occurs when magical girls turn into witches.

===Mami Tomoe===
[[File:MamiGem.png|250px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Flower
*'''Bottom emblem''': Flower
*'''Shape when transformed''': Flower
*'''Location''': Hairpin on right side of head

===Sayaka Miki===
[[File:SayakaGem.png|250px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Musical note
*'''Bottom emblem''': Musical note
*'''Shape when transformed''': Musical note
*'''Location''': Navel

===Homura Akemi===
[[File:Homura soul gem.png|200px]][[File:HomuraSoulGemTransformed.png|200px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Diamond
*'''Bottom emblem''': Diamond
*'''Shape when transformed''': Diamond
*'''Location''': Left hand

===Kyoko Sakura===
[[File:KyoukoSoulGemVarious.png|300px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Oval
*'''Bottom emblem''': Oval
*'''Shape when transformed''': Oval
*'''Location''': Upper chest

===Madoka Kaname===
[[File:MadokaSoulGem.png|300px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Teardrop
*'''Bottom emblem''': Teardrop
*'''Shape when transformed''': Teardrop
*'''Location''': Upper chest

===Yuma Chitose===
[[File:YumaSoulGemNeck.png|250px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Sphere with cat ears
*'''Location''': Nape of neck

===Oriko Mikuni===
[[File:OrikoSoulGem.png|200px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Oval
*'''Location''': Upper chest

===Kirika Kure===
[[File:Oriko_gem.JPG|250px]][[File:Kirika_gem_cropped.JPG|150px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Ring
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown (shield?)
*'''Shape when transformed''': Diamond
*'''Location''': Lower back

===Kazumi===
[[File:J13 23.jpg|200px]]
[[File:Kazumi_soul_gem.JPG]]
*'''Top emblem''': Spiral
*'''Bottom emblem''': Spiral
*'''Shape when transformed''': Bell-like earring with spiral patterns
*'''Location''': Ear

===Kaoru Maki===
[[File:KaoruSoulGem.png]][[File:KaoruTransformedGem.png|100px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown (trophy?)
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown (trophy?)
*'''Shape when transformed''': Pentagon
*'''Location''': Right thigh

===Umika Misaki===
[[File:UmikaSoulGem.png]][[File:UmikaTransformedGem.png|200px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Pen nib
*'''Bottom emblem''': Pen nib
*'''Shape when transformed''': Pen nib
*'''Location''': Forehead

===Satomi Usagi===
[[File:SatomiSoulGem.png]][[File:MJ13 20.jpg]]
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown (paw?)
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown (paw?)
*'''Shape when transformed''': Cat head
*'''Location''': Left side of the chest

===Mirai Wakaba===
[[File:MiraiWakabaSoulGem.png]]
*'''Top emblem''': Heart
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Heart
*'''Location''': Neck

===Nico Kanna===
[[File:Nico_gem.JPG]]
[[File:Nico_gem_neck.JPG|150px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Hexagon
*'''Bottom emblem''': Hexagon
*'''Shape when transformed''': Hexagon
*'''Location''': Nape of neck

===Saki Asami===
[[File:Saki_soul_gem.JPG]]
*'''Top emblem''': Lily of the valley
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Lily of the valley
*'''Location''': Left hand

===Yuuri Asuka===
[[File:YuuriAsukaSoulGem.png]]
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Oval
*'''Location''': Left shoulder

==="Yuuri"===
[[File:Airi_soul_gem.JPG]]
*'''Top emblem''': Flower (?)
*'''Bottom emblem''': Flower (?)
*'''Shape when transformed''': Oval
*'''Location''': Upper abdomen, below her chest

===Akane Sumire===
[[File:Akane_soul_gem.JPG]]
*'''Top emblem''': Tassel/Tiara (?)
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Tassel/Tiara (?)
*'''Location''': Navel

===Ayase Souju===
[[File:Ayase_soul_gem.JPG]]
*'''Top emblem''': Crescent moon with circle in it
*'''Bottom emblem''': Circle with crescent moon in it
*'''Shape when transformed''': Inverted shield (?)
*'''Location''': Left side of chest

===Luca Souju===
[[File:Luca_gem.JPG]]
*'''Top emblem''': Circle with crescent moon in it
*'''Bottom emblem''': Crescent moon with circle in it
*'''Shape when transformed''': Shield (?)
*'''Location''': Right side of chest

===Michiru Kazusa===
[[File:Michiru Gem.jpg|150px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Spiral
*'''Bottom emblem''': Spiral
*'''Shape when transformed''': Bell-like earring with spiral patterns
*'''Location''': Ear

===Kanna Hijiri===
[[File:Kanna_soul_gem.PNG]]
*'''Top emblem''': Twin hexagons
*'''Bottom emblem''': Twin hexagons
*'''Shape when transformed''': Unknown
*'''Location''': Unknown

===Unnamed Tibetan girl===
[[File:Vlcsnap-2011-12-08-16h52m48s14.jpg|250px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Heart
*'''Bottom emblem''': Heart / inverted spade
*'''Shape when transformed''': Teardrop (?)
*'''Location''': Below neck, collar

===Unnamed girl from the Savannah===
[[File:SavannahGirlGem.png|200px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Shield (?)
*'''Location''': Right arm, above elbow

===Unnamed girl with bear===
[[File:BearGirlGem.png|150px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Bear head
*'''Location''': Hairpin on upper left side of head

===Unnamed girl in purple===
[[File:Vlcsnap-2011-12-08-16h52m05s99.jpg|250px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Heart
*'''Location''': Center of chest, between the breasts

===Unnamed Viking girl===
[[File:Vlcsnap-2012-02-15-16h48m52s245.jpg|250px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Crescent / Horn?
*'''Location''': Forehead

===Unnamed girl in sailor uniform===
[[File:Schoolgirloutfitgem.png|250px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Unknown
*'''Location''': Unknown

===Unnamed Afghan girl===
[[File:Screen_shot_2012-02-16_at_8.08.33_PM.jpg|200px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Diamond
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Unknown
*'''Location''': Unknown

===Unnamed girl on train===
[[File:Screen_shot_2012-02-16_at_8.08.45_PM.jpg|200px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Unknown
*'''Shape when transformed''': Unknown
*'''Location''': Unknown

===Queen Himiko===
[[File:Screen_shot_2012-02-16_at_8.08.55_PM.jpg|200px]]
*'''Top emblem''': Unknown
*'''Bottom emblem''': Seashell (?)
*'''Shape when transformed''': Unknown
*'''Location''': Unknown

==Production Notes==
<gallery>
File:PN 29.jpg
File:PN 53.jpg
File:PN 60.jpg
File:PN 61.jpg

</gallery>

[[Category:Articles]]
[[Category:Unconfirmed theories]]

==PSP Game==
<gallery>
File:All Star Grief Seed.png
</gallery>

==Candy Straps==
Strap versions of several Soul Gems and Grief Seeds were released for cell phones in Japan. A promo picture can be found at http://www.superhappycashcow.com/pic/2009%20New%20Figure/Puella%20Magi%20Madoka%20Magica/Soul%20Gem%20Strap%202/01.jpg. The above Soul Gems (from left to right) are tied to the Magical Girls underneath them. The Grief Seeds are [[Oktavia]]'s, [[Charlotte]]'s, [[Elly]]'s and [[Elsa Maria]]'s. The corrupted Soul Gems are Madoka's and Homura's, as evidenced by their placement, shape and the gem colours.

Kriemhild Gretchen

2012-09-22T08:02:54Z

YazzyDream: /* PSP Gallery */

__NOTOC__
'''Kriemhild Gretchen''' ({{Runes|KRIEMHILD•GRETCHEN}}) is the [[witch]] form of [[Madoka Kaname]]. She appears in second and fourth timelines of [[Episode 10]]; a witch form of Madoka (whether she can be considered Kriemhild is up for debate) also appears in [[episode 12]].

In the second timeline, her formation involves thunderclouds coalescing initially into a giant humanoid and then she seems to form a mountain-like being.

In the fourth timeline, she is shown as a giant creature, actually the size of a mountain. Her name was not shown at all during initial broadcast, but was added in the fourth timeline in a webcast version one week later. According to [[Kyubey]], strength of this incarnation of hers is of such a magnitude that she could obliterate the planet within ten days.

Her appearance in both timelines is essentially identical (if one looks closely at her fourth timeline appearance, they will see the head at the top of the shadow between the outstretched arms), though in the second timeline only her head was really shown at all, with the body still forming.

In episode 12, Madoka's all-powerful witch form, who may or may not be considered another form of Kriemhild Gretchen, appears at the end of the universe, born from all the grief Madoka had shouldered from the magical girls she had saved, due to her supremely hopeful wish. She inhabits a comet-sized grief seed and, unlike the second and fourth timelines' versions of Kriemhild, has a fully-shown face (although the left half is either blank or covered in shadow); her head is sun disc-shaped, her open mouth resembles the moon, and her right eye resembles the earth. She is slain by the "goddess" form of Madoka before she can consume the earth.

{{Card
|name=Kriemhild Gretchen
|runes = KRIEMHILD•GRETCHEN
|image = File:Card_Kriemhild.png
|japanese_desc = 救済の魔女。その性質は慈悲。この星の全ての生命を強制的に吸い上げ彼女の作った新しい天国（結界）へと導いていく。この魔女を倒したくば世界中の不幸を取り除く以外に方法は無い。もし世界中から悲しみがなくなれば魔女はここが天国であると錯覚するだろう。
|english_desc = Witch of salvation. Her nature is mercy. She absorbs any life on the planet into her newly created heaven--her barrier. The only way to defeat this witch is to make the world free of misfortune. If there's no grief in this world, she will believe this world is already a heaven.
|type = Witch of salvation
|nature = Mercy
|episodes = [[Episode 10]]
}}

==Observations and speculation==
* In Episode 1, shortly after the runic text reading "Prologue in Heaven", we see the upside-down form of a giant shadow above Walpurgis Night's spell circle (the symbols seen behind Walpurgis Night). Based off her appearance and her desire to create "heaven", it can only be concluded that this shadow is Kriemhild Gretchen.
* In [[Wikipedia:Goethe's_Faust|Goethe's]] ''[[Speculah:Madoka_Magica_and_Faust|Faust]]'', Gretchen, also known as Margarete, was the name of Faust's lover. She dies at the end of Part 1 of ''Faust'', but returns at the end of Part 2 as a Pentinent in heaven. She is allowed to lead Faust's soul into heaven's higher spheres.
**Some studies suggest that Faust refers to the girl as Margarete (meaning ''pearl'') at the beginning because of her purity and innocence, and changes to the diminutive Gretchen after their intercourse, to point out her spoiled purity. In the same way, the fact that this witch is named Gretchen, rather than Margarete, could represent the corruption of Madoka's soul.
* [[Wikipedia: Gudrun|Kriemhild]], also known as Gudrun, is a figure from Norse Mythology. She is an important character in the epic poem ''[[Wikipedia: Nibelungenlied|Nibelungenlied]]''. Note also that [http://www.behindthename.com/name/kriemhild Kriemhild comes from the German words] for [[Speculah:Ending_Analysis|"mask"]] and "battle".
* Some have come to believe that the mask shown at the end of the ending credits is actually Kriemhild's face, considering "Kriemhild"'s meaning of "battle mask".
* Kriemhild Gretchen's appearance as a giant shadow may be based off the phenomenon known as a [[Wikipedia: Brocken_spectre|Brocken spectre]]. In both German folklore and Goethe's ''Faust'', [[Wikipedia: Walpurgis_Night|Walpurgis Night]] occurred on the [[Wikipedia: Brocken|Brocken]], a mountain peak in Germany. The conditions on the Brocken often cause Brocken spectres, which are magnified shadows of climbers being projected onto mist or clouds. Kriemhild Gretchen appears after the witch known as [[Speculah: Walpurgis Night|Walpurgis Night]] is defeated. If this is true, it's also possible that Kriemhild is not as large as she appears.
*''[http://gedichte.xbib.de/Goethe_gedicht_Meine+G%F6ttin.htm Meine Göttin]'' ("My Goddess"), also a poem written by Goethe on 15 September 1780 and sent at once to Charlotte von Stein. It was first published in 1789 in Goethes Schriften. Written in hymnic form, the poem is a panegyric of the poetic imagination.
* Kriemhild can only be defeated if the world is rid of all misfortune within the ten days it will take for her to destroy it. This could mean that the only feasible way of defeating her is by having a girl become a magical girl with the wish to rid the world of misfortune (or, alternately, to just kill Kriemhild outright -- which would probably make the new magical girl a witch even more powerful than Kriemhild herself).
* Since she rids the world of misfortune herself in given time that means the witch might just die out once her job is done and all the Incubators would have to do is pick up her huge grief seed afterwards.
* It's probable that when Kyubey says Kriemhild will "destroy the planet" he simply means that Kriemhild's barrier will grow to encompass it or that she will wipe out all life on it in favor of her dream world barrier. In the event the latter were the case, Kriemheld could be likened to the biblical Apocalypse. All sinners (misfortune) are destroyed before paradise itself (the witch's barrier) settles on Earth for those still alive.
* {{spoiler|In [[Episode 12]], Madoka, upon absorbing all the grief of fellow magical girls, transforms into an "ultimate witch" (see picture below). The name of this witch is not known and her appearance is also substantially different - however, her actions correspond well to the description on this card - she was born from all the grief of the world, and is defeated by rewriting the rules of the universe.}}
* Kriemhild's Grief Seed has a symbol that resembles [[Astronomy|a shooting star]]. Shooting stars are associated with wishes.
* [[NewType_2011-07#InuCurry_.28bewitched_space_design.29_and_Yukihiro_Miyamoto_.28series_director.29|According to witch animator and designer InuCurry]], Walpurgis Night's and Kriemhild Gretchen's silhouettes are supposed to make a pair. The significance of this is unknown.
** [[Puella_Magi_Production_Note#Kriemhild_Gretchen.2C_Timeline_2_Version|Puella Magi Production Note]] further reveals that Kriemhild Gretchen is meant to look like the lower half of a sand timer, while Walpurgis Night looks like the upper half. Interestingly, [[NewType_2011-05#Homura.27s_shield|Homura's shield has also been described as a sand timer]].
***In some observations, it is said that Gretchen is the other half to Walpurgis. And if combined, they form a shape similar to a hourglass. And from fan speculation about Walpurgis being Homura's witch, and Gretchen being Madoka's, it is said that the combination of the two witches create a symbolic image of both the heroine's fates.
***Homura's witch form has been revealed as [[Homulilly]].

==Kriemhild Gretchen in the [[Madoka Magica Portable]] Game==
In addition to her ribbon, Kriemhild Gretchen's grief seed is shown with black wings in the Kyoko route. It's also shown with black wings for the witch kiss available in the PSP custom themes available with the limited edition version of the game. Art from Inu Curry's special gallery game bonus reveals another depiction of the grief seed and the interior of the Kriemhild Gretchen, otherwise known as the Witch of Salvation.

===PSP Gallery===
<gallery>
File:Gretchen_in_PSP_Game_Kyoko_Route.jpg|Screenshot from the Kyoko game route
File:Gretchen PSP Witch Kiss.jpg|Witch Kiss
File:PSP WitchKissAndGriefSeed Gretchen.jpg|Witch kiss and grief seed
File:Witch of Salvation Center.png|From Inu Curry special art gallery
File:Interior of the witch of salvation.png|Interior. It's interesting to note that it is filled with chairs like Madoka's house. In particular her's and her mother's room.
</gallery>

==Anime and Manga Official Gallery==
<gallery>
File:MadokaWitch.gif|The birth of Kriemhild Gretchen in the second timeline.
File:Madoka-grief-seed.png|Madoka/Kriemhild's grief seed.
File:Madoka-witch-first.jpg|Madoka's witch transformation in the second timeline.
File:Kaname witch form power.jpg|Madoka's witch form.
File:Ep10 Kriemhild Name.png|Kriemhild Gretchen as seen just before Homura resets in the fourth timeline in the [http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1300174500 Nicovideo Channel] broadcast.
File:Madoka the Ultimate Witch.jpg|A closeup of the face of the ultimate witch form of Madoka born as a result of her wish in the story timeline.
File:Episode 1 Shadow.png|A giant shadow with Walpurgis Night's symbol, seen at the beginning of episode 1. A possible Gretchen-Walpurigs fusion?
File:060.jpg|The birth of Kriemhild Gretchen as seen in the second timeline in the manga.
File:078.jpg|Kriemhild Gretchen as she is seen in the fourth timeline in the manga.
</gallery>

==Official Art==
<gallery>
File:Guidebook 0055.jpg|Puella Magi Madoka Magica Official Guidebook "You Are Not Alone"
</gallery>

==Fanart==
{{fanart}}
<gallery>
File:Dark Kriemheld Gretchen.jpg
File:Madoka becoming gretchen.jpg
File:Gretchen vs madoka.png
File:Dark madoka.png
File:Goddess Madoka vs. Ultimate Kreimhild Gretchen.jpg| Another way to see Madoka's final fight.
File:Kreimhild Gretchen Corruption.png| Madoka getting consumed by despair
File:Kriemhild Madoka.jpg|Another Personification of Kriemhild
File:Dark Goddess Gretchen.jpg
File:Goddess of Despair Gretchen.jpg
File:Dark madoka fanart gretchen witch.jpg
File:Madokami and dark persona madoka fanart.jpg
File:Kriemhild Gretchen and Walpurgis.jpg
File:Gretchen the Witch Saviour.jpg|The goddess of despair praises her minions.
File:KriemhildGretchen black white artwork.jpg
File:18471637 p42.jpg
File:Gretchdoka fanart.jpg
File:Kriemhild.jpg
File:26378453 p5.jpg
File:A very evil dark madoka fanart.jpg
File:Gretchen Cries.jpg|Salvation is suffering.
</gallery>

==External links==
*{{card_link|id=27}}
*[http://www.pixiv.net/tags.php?tag=Kriemhild_Gretchen Kriemhild Gretchen pixiv fanart]
[[Category:Witches]]

Kriemhild Gretchen

2012-09-22T08:00:39Z

YazzyDream: /* PSP Gallery */

__NOTOC__
'''Kriemhild Gretchen''' ({{Runes|KRIEMHILD•GRETCHEN}}) is the [[witch]] form of [[Madoka Kaname]]. She appears in second and fourth timelines of [[Episode 10]]; a witch form of Madoka (whether she can be considered Kriemhild is up for debate) also appears in [[episode 12]].

In the second timeline, her formation involves thunderclouds coalescing initially into a giant humanoid and then she seems to form a mountain-like being.

In the fourth timeline, she is shown as a giant creature, actually the size of a mountain. Her name was not shown at all during initial broadcast, but was added in the fourth timeline in a webcast version one week later. According to [[Kyubey]], strength of this incarnation of hers is of such a magnitude that she could obliterate the planet within ten days.

Her appearance in both timelines is essentially identical (if one looks closely at her fourth timeline appearance, they will see the head at the top of the shadow between the outstretched arms), though in the second timeline only her head was really shown at all, with the body still forming.

In episode 12, Madoka's all-powerful witch form, who may or may not be considered another form of Kriemhild Gretchen, appears at the end of the universe, born from all the grief Madoka had shouldered from the magical girls she had saved, due to her supremely hopeful wish. She inhabits a comet-sized grief seed and, unlike the second and fourth timelines' versions of Kriemhild, has a fully-shown face (although the left half is either blank or covered in shadow); her head is sun disc-shaped, her open mouth resembles the moon, and her right eye resembles the earth. She is slain by the "goddess" form of Madoka before she can consume the earth.

{{Card
|name=Kriemhild Gretchen
|runes = KRIEMHILD•GRETCHEN
|image = File:Card_Kriemhild.png
|japanese_desc = 救済の魔女。その性質は慈悲。この星の全ての生命を強制的に吸い上げ彼女の作った新しい天国（結界）へと導いていく。この魔女を倒したくば世界中の不幸を取り除く以外に方法は無い。もし世界中から悲しみがなくなれば魔女はここが天国であると錯覚するだろう。
|english_desc = Witch of salvation. Her nature is mercy. She absorbs any life on the planet into her newly created heaven--her barrier. The only way to defeat this witch is to make the world free of misfortune. If there's no grief in this world, she will believe this world is already a heaven.
|type = Witch of salvation
|nature = Mercy
|episodes = [[Episode 10]]
}}

==Observations and speculation==
* In Episode 1, shortly after the runic text reading "Prologue in Heaven", we see the upside-down form of a giant shadow above Walpurgis Night's spell circle (the symbols seen behind Walpurgis Night). Based off her appearance and her desire to create "heaven", it can only be concluded that this shadow is Kriemhild Gretchen.
* In [[Wikipedia:Goethe's_Faust|Goethe's]] ''[[Speculah:Madoka_Magica_and_Faust|Faust]]'', Gretchen, also known as Margarete, was the name of Faust's lover. She dies at the end of Part 1 of ''Faust'', but returns at the end of Part 2 as a Pentinent in heaven. She is allowed to lead Faust's soul into heaven's higher spheres.
**Some studies suggest that Faust refers to the girl as Margarete (meaning ''pearl'') at the beginning because of her purity and innocence, and changes to the diminutive Gretchen after their intercourse, to point out her spoiled purity. In the same way, the fact that this witch is named Gretchen, rather than Margarete, could represent the corruption of Madoka's soul.
* [[Wikipedia: Gudrun|Kriemhild]], also known as Gudrun, is a figure from Norse Mythology. She is an important character in the epic poem ''[[Wikipedia: Nibelungenlied|Nibelungenlied]]''. Note also that [http://www.behindthename.com/name/kriemhild Kriemhild comes from the German words] for [[Speculah:Ending_Analysis|"mask"]] and "battle".
* Some have come to believe that the mask shown at the end of the ending credits is actually Kriemhild's face, considering "Kriemhild"'s meaning of "battle mask".
* Kriemhild Gretchen's appearance as a giant shadow may be based off the phenomenon known as a [[Wikipedia: Brocken_spectre|Brocken spectre]]. In both German folklore and Goethe's ''Faust'', [[Wikipedia: Walpurgis_Night|Walpurgis Night]] occurred on the [[Wikipedia: Brocken|Brocken]], a mountain peak in Germany. The conditions on the Brocken often cause Brocken spectres, which are magnified shadows of climbers being projected onto mist or clouds. Kriemhild Gretchen appears after the witch known as [[Speculah: Walpurgis Night|Walpurgis Night]] is defeated. If this is true, it's also possible that Kriemhild is not as large as she appears.
*''[http://gedichte.xbib.de/Goethe_gedicht_Meine+G%F6ttin.htm Meine Göttin]'' ("My Goddess"), also a poem written by Goethe on 15 September 1780 and sent at once to Charlotte von Stein. It was first published in 1789 in Goethes Schriften. Written in hymnic form, the poem is a panegyric of the poetic imagination.
* Kriemhild can only be defeated if the world is rid of all misfortune within the ten days it will take for her to destroy it. This could mean that the only feasible way of defeating her is by having a girl become a magical girl with the wish to rid the world of misfortune (or, alternately, to just kill Kriemhild outright -- which would probably make the new magical girl a witch even more powerful than Kriemhild herself).
* Since she rids the world of misfortune herself in given time that means the witch might just die out once her job is done and all the Incubators would have to do is pick up her huge grief seed afterwards.
* It's probable that when Kyubey says Kriemhild will "destroy the planet" he simply means that Kriemhild's barrier will grow to encompass it or that she will wipe out all life on it in favor of her dream world barrier. In the event the latter were the case, Kriemheld could be likened to the biblical Apocalypse. All sinners (misfortune) are destroyed before paradise itself (the witch's barrier) settles on Earth for those still alive.
* {{spoiler|In [[Episode 12]], Madoka, upon absorbing all the grief of fellow magical girls, transforms into an "ultimate witch" (see picture below). The name of this witch is not known and her appearance is also substantially different - however, her actions correspond well to the description on this card - she was born from all the grief of the world, and is defeated by rewriting the rules of the universe.}}
* Kriemhild's Grief Seed has a symbol that resembles [[Astronomy|a shooting star]]. Shooting stars are associated with wishes.
* [[NewType_2011-07#InuCurry_.28bewitched_space_design.29_and_Yukihiro_Miyamoto_.28series_director.29|According to witch animator and designer InuCurry]], Walpurgis Night's and Kriemhild Gretchen's silhouettes are supposed to make a pair. The significance of this is unknown.
** [[Puella_Magi_Production_Note#Kriemhild_Gretchen.2C_Timeline_2_Version|Puella Magi Production Note]] further reveals that Kriemhild Gretchen is meant to look like the lower half of a sand timer, while Walpurgis Night looks like the upper half. Interestingly, [[NewType_2011-05#Homura.27s_shield|Homura's shield has also been described as a sand timer]].
***In some observations, it is said that Gretchen is the other half to Walpurgis. And if combined, they form a shape similar to a hourglass. And from fan speculation about Walpurgis being Homura's witch, and Gretchen being Madoka's, it is said that the combination of the two witches create a symbolic image of both the heroine's fates.
***Homura's witch form has been revealed as [[Homulilly]].

==Kriemhild Gretchen in the [[Madoka Magica Portable]] Game==
In addition to her ribbon, Kriemhild Gretchen's grief seed is shown with black wings in the Kyoko route. It's also shown with black wings for the witch kiss available in the PSP custom themes available with the limited edition version of the game. Art from Inu Curry's special gallery game bonus reveals another depiction of the grief seed and the interior of the Kriemhild Gretchen, otherwise known as the Witch of Salvation.

===PSP Gallery===
<gallery>
File:Gretchen_in_PSP_Game_Kyoko_Route.jpg|Screenshot from the Kyoko game route
File:Gretchen PSP Witch Kiss.jpg|Witch Kiss
File:PSP WitchKissAndGriefSeed Gretchen.jpg|Witch kiss and grief seed
File:Witch of Salvation Center.png|From Inu Curry special art gallery
File:Interior of the witch of salvation.png|Interior. It's interesting to note that it is filled with chairs like Madoka's room has been depicted as.
</gallery>

==Anime and Manga Official Gallery==
<gallery>
File:MadokaWitch.gif|The birth of Kriemhild Gretchen in the second timeline.
File:Madoka-grief-seed.png|Madoka/Kriemhild's grief seed.
File:Madoka-witch-first.jpg|Madoka's witch transformation in the second timeline.
File:Kaname witch form power.jpg|Madoka's witch form.
File:Ep10 Kriemhild Name.png|Kriemhild Gretchen as seen just before Homura resets in the fourth timeline in the [http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1300174500 Nicovideo Channel] broadcast.
File:Madoka the Ultimate Witch.jpg|A closeup of the face of the ultimate witch form of Madoka born as a result of her wish in the story timeline.
File:Episode 1 Shadow.png|A giant shadow with Walpurgis Night's symbol, seen at the beginning of episode 1. A possible Gretchen-Walpurigs fusion?
File:060.jpg|The birth of Kriemhild Gretchen as seen in the second timeline in the manga.
File:078.jpg|Kriemhild Gretchen as she is seen in the fourth timeline in the manga.
</gallery>

==Official Art==
<gallery>
File:Guidebook 0055.jpg|Puella Magi Madoka Magica Official Guidebook "You Are Not Alone"
</gallery>

==Fanart==
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<gallery>
File:Dark Kriemheld Gretchen.jpg
File:Madoka becoming gretchen.jpg
File:Gretchen vs madoka.png
File:Dark madoka.png
File:Goddess Madoka vs. Ultimate Kreimhild Gretchen.jpg| Another way to see Madoka's final fight.
File:Kreimhild Gretchen Corruption.png| Madoka getting consumed by despair
File:Kriemhild Madoka.jpg|Another Personification of Kriemhild
File:Dark Goddess Gretchen.jpg
File:Goddess of Despair Gretchen.jpg
File:Dark madoka fanart gretchen witch.jpg
File:Madokami and dark persona madoka fanart.jpg
File:Kriemhild Gretchen and Walpurgis.jpg
File:Gretchen the Witch Saviour.jpg|The goddess of despair praises her minions.
File:KriemhildGretchen black white artwork.jpg
File:18471637 p42.jpg
File:Gretchdoka fanart.jpg
File:Kriemhild.jpg
File:26378453 p5.jpg
File:A very evil dark madoka fanart.jpg
File:Gretchen Cries.jpg|Salvation is suffering.
</gallery>

==External links==
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*[http://www.pixiv.net/tags.php?tag=Kriemhild_Gretchen Kriemhild Gretchen pixiv fanart]
[[Category:Witches]]