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<div>==The Witch in Chapter 8==<br />
I propose that we wait until Chapter 9 to add this witch, simply because there's a possibility that it's {{Spoiler|not Nico}}. I've learned to expect twists like this from this series. --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 11:15, 27 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:First, thanks god I just read the chap: the spoiler tags don't work on the page summary (created page with: bla bla bla on the recent changes page). Second, I agree. Her soul gem was clear, there's definitely something off there. --[[User:BrickBreak|BrickBreak]] 12:56, 27 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: '''D'oh!''' Sorry. --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 13:38, 27 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Chapter 9 RAW is out. [http://anonscanlations.blogspot.com/2011/09/magical-girl-kazumi-magica-ch-9-raw.html]. The witch is apparently not {{Spoiler|Nico}}, so we can add it onto the page once the translation is out.<br />
::so uh did you not see her gem ''exploding everywhere'' on the first page or [[User:Neuchadjinys|Neuchadjinys]] 22:58, 29 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Whoops, I actually hadn't looked at the pages yet, just heard it being talked about elsewhere. My bad. :/ --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 22:59, 29 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::No, no, 's fine. Er, sorry if that was rude. [[User:Neuchadjinys|Neuchadjinys]] 23:01, 29 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::I guess we can call it {{Spoiler|Copy-Nico}}? -- [[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 13:55, 30 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::I think you pointed out on tvtropes {{Spoiler|the Grief Seed from witch!Copy!Nico looks nothing like her Soul Gem.}} I wonder if there's still another Airi/Yuuri going on... --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 17:37, 30 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::::There's ''definitely'' something weird happening, but I think that {{Spoiler|the Gem and Seed are the same one. The emblems are different, but the witch that dropped it was shown physically emerging from copy!Nico's Gem.}} [[User:Neuchadjinys|Neuchadjinys]] 22:16, 30 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Witches Names==<br />
I dont know German, so dont take my word for it, but the name '''Nie Blühen Herzen''' could mean ''Never blossoming heart'', I could be wrong. Can someone verify it? '''Arzt Kochen''' seems to mean ''doctor cooking''... these names aren't really original... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 01:22, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Yeah, that's what they mean. They ''are'' pretty unorthodox, huh? [[User:Neuchadjinys|Neuchadjinys]] 01:56, 30 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Information Nie Blühen Herzen and minions ==<br />
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'''Nie Blühen Herzen'''<br />
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The Heart Witch. She has a self-denying nature. She is a heart that has been wounded in the past and has difficulty beating. Despite having access to the most sophisticated of medical treatments, she remains rooted to her hospital bed. One can easily defeat this Witch by poisoning her medicine.<br />
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Minions of the Heart Witch. Their duty is to be fellow patients. Despite being ill, these buds are well on their way to blooming again. The Witch has grown very large in the hospital, but still refuses to bloom.</div>77.249.57.31https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Candeloro&diff=45173Talk:Candeloro2012-08-20T15:17:26Z<p>77.249.57.31: </p>
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are we going to consider the game canon?... there is always issues with games... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 02:20, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:The scenarios are written by Urobuchi, Shaft and Inu Curry are doing the designs, the seiyuu are voicing their characters so yeah, I'd say it's reasonable to consider it at least as canonical as the manga spin-offs, which also have share the character page and so on. --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 02:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Actually, Urobuchi did not write it (or not ''all of it''). He mainly "Supervise" the script. --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 02:25, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::True, though the way it was explained, I have no qualms of it having the complete Urobuchi stamp of approval: The scenarios of the game version will be under full supervision by Gen Urobuchi of Nitroplus. Regarding that Doi noted that “the game will have multiple ending and I would like to drill down to explore the aspects of the characters that have not been seen before.” He also mentioned Urobuchi came to the development site frequently to have discussions. Doi looked satisfied with the result and said “I have high expectation of the scenarios.” At the very least, it will be as canonical as the drama CDs, which were also under his supervision. --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 02:32, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It won't hurt listing the witch in characters page though, as long as we mark it as '''''from PSP game'''''. (Just like how we treat Oriko/Kazumi, etc.) Personally I think if Inu Curry designs it, at very least ''the witch form'' could be considered canon (even if the story itself may not be quite so). --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 02:25, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I swear I'll never get people's gripes with canon sources that aren't the main and original source, even if they're just as official... but oh well. <br>As a personal note, I read a number of fan descriptions for Mami's witch form... and this doesn't hold a candle to some of them (no pun intended). It seems too bland, to be honest. I like the idea of the familiars being built into the image or her kouhais; and I have a sort-of childish satisfaction over having called it. --[[User:BrickBreak|BrickBreak]] 03:01, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, it matters for two reasons: One is clarity. For example, if someone has only seen the anime and knows Kyubey, mentions of Jubey is going to be confusing. The more works there are produced, the more confusing it will get as the body of information and discrepancies among sources grows larger. The second is that some fans care about sources and made subjective opinions on which they consider canonical and which do not. There will no doubt be some who do not consider some combination of the three manga, the game or the drama CDS to not be canon but rather than make those distinctions, we simply rule out things that are definitely not canonical (like the Comic Anthology) and make sure to list the sources for the rest because of reasons 1 and 2. --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 03:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:What the heck is her name supposed to mean? --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 03:44, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I think it is an [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candeloro Italian name] (male), the female equivalent is Candelora and I think the name seems to suggest something to do with the [http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candelora some sort of religious festival], of course I cant understand Italian but there is an [http://www.theflorentine.net/articles/article-view.asp?issuetocId=4043 English source that explains it.] (Good thing Spanish has similar words in Italian or otherwise I wouldnt understand any of it...) --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 03:51, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::who would have thought than an Anime/game would actually make me look and learn new things about the world? Nuts... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 04:02, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Candelora, February 2, Groundhog Day, time travel... I am just thinking this is all coincidental... right? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 04:16, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::For some unknown reason I want to scream INUCURRYYYYYYYY! --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 04:20, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::: ''In France, Candlemas (Chandeleur) is best known for being the day of pancakes, which are prepared in every way.''. Ok, now this is ridiculous. I wouldnt be surprised if this was true but I still feel like someone is pulling my chain.... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 04:29, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::: [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandeleur#Tradition I be darn...] --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 04:33, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Well played, Quartet. Well played. [[User:Kerigis|Kerigis]] 05:01, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::: Incidentally, if the "[[Astronomy|witches named after celestial objects]]" is still something that's not a coincidence, we have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9010_Candelo this]. I wouldn't add it to that page or this page, though. --[[User:Universalperson|Universalperson]] 05:05, 21 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Who made the Witch Card? Is that the official description from the magazine or is it fanmade? --[[User:SPDUDE48|SPDUDE48]] 24:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It's... almost certainly fanmade, I believe. The image was cropped directly from the magazine screenshot and pasted over the Anthony card, and part of the text reads something like "the dynamite body unlike that of a high-schooler which she had in her previous life". [[User:Neuchadjinys|Neuchadjinys]] 05:19, 23 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It's from 2ch, hence it's in the fanart section...or at least that's where I put it. I can't say where anyone has used it (can't track everything). I can say there's no official card anywhere that I've seen thus far and I don't expect to see a real one anytime soon either. The ones for the anime weren't released until after they were shown in it. The game...is still months away from being sold.--[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 05:59, 23 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Pretty much all of the manga ones are fanmade, too, so I don't think it's a problem (though maybe erasing that description for the page version would be good). --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 06:29, 23 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Why exactly does the Witch have blue in her design? I thought Mami was all yellow. I know the Witch is suppose to look like a refined young lady, but still . . . --[[User:SPDUDE48|SPDUDE48]] 15:33, 06 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Kinda looks like bluish-green to me... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 01:26, 7 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Sayaka had a fish tail, and you're concerned with Mami having one more color? LOL, but really, it's probably to break up the mass of yellow. All the witches are multicolored like that. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 02:21, 7 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Am I the only one who thinks Kyouko's Witch will be featured in the next issue of Dengeki Playstation? --[[User:SPDUDE48|SPDUDE48]] 21:14, 09 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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added some more information that I got from 4chan, anyone is welcome to make changes or corrections... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 08:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Familiars==<br />
Anyone knows if a card (or cards?) will be made for the familiars? --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 04:40, 28 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Since their names are unknown now, I don't think it necessary to make them now. [[User:Yorkwoo|Yorkwoo]] 05:12, 28 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
Names of minions are MARIANNE + JOLLENE. [[Special:Contributions/77.249.57.31|77.249.57.31]] 15:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC)Guest<br />
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== Witch description ==<br />
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Where did Candeloro's description come from? (Revealing her to be the witch of dress-up with an inviting nature) [[User:Silvermoon424|Silvermoon424]] 16:07, 24 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:It's from [http://i.imgur.com/WDOD3h.jpg her page in the in-game witch encyclopedia.] --[[User:Neuchadjinys|Neuchadjinys]] 19:52, 24 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you! [[User:Silvermoon424|Silvermoon424]] 21:59, 24 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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You know, I am kind of dissapointed that Candeloro's mammies are not big, her hips are very wide... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:49, 29 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
:*Insert Shakira joke here*. Do you think we'll ever get the names of the familiars? [[User:SPDUDE48|SPDUDE48]] 11:10, 29 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Call me Crazy ==<br />
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I like her better than her magical girl form.Yes, I am very much so insane --[[User:Datadoggieein|Datadoggieein]] 06:07, 10 July 2012 (UTC)The Makuta of Matau Nui</div>77.249.57.31https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Grief_Seeds&diff=44964Talk:Grief Seeds2012-08-08T09:38:30Z<p>77.249.57.31: </p>
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<div>Question, but why is this page under Speculah? It's just a list of canon facts with very little speculation. It'd be better placed as an ordinary page or as an article, I think. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 06:53, 17 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
: I kind of forgot. Started it but kind of abandoned it after the Earthquake. Looks like someone had been filling it in regardless. I don't remember any particular reason why it was specifically under speculah, besides that there were a pre-existing [[Grief seed]] redirect. - [[User:Prima|Prima]] 10:41, 17 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
: I think part of it was that the canon didn't specify particular grief seeds' owners sometimes. - [[User:Prima|Prima]] 10:42, 17 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Got picture of Souju's sisters grief seed file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/PC/Mijn%20documenten/Mijn%20afbeeldingen/plaatjes%20MP3/n018.jpg [[Special:Contributions/77.249.57.31|77.249.57.31]] 09:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC) Guest</div>77.249.57.31https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ayase_Souju&diff=44961Talk:Ayase Souju2012-08-07T09:42:25Z<p>77.249.57.31: /* Witch form */ new section</p>
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<div>...I thought we were waiting to make a page for the new antagonist after what happened with the Yuuri pages? --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 02:19, 3 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I am moving the pictures here, I am going to wait to see what happens next on the story so we dont mess it up... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 02:40, 3 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I've filled out Ayase's info. Presumably Luca will get more spotlight in the next chapter, and we can give her a page like Airi. [[User:MsDevin92|MsDevin92]] 02:58, 3 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
==Pictures==<br />
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File:Ayase Souju Puella Magi.png<br />
File:Ayase Soul Gem.png<br />
File:Luca Souju Puella Magi.png<br />
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File:Ayase Souju with dubious interest.png<br />
File:Soul Gem collection.png<br />
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== Witch form ==<br />
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It didn't really surprise me. The Cerberus always have an extra head (like the sisters have two souls in one body). I'm not to sure thought. What do you guys think? [[Special:Contributions/77.249.57.31|77.249.57.31]] 09:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC) Guest</div>77.249.57.31