MediaWiki talk:Sidebar
The sidebar seems to act somewhat weird. From time to time, it just shows as the default version (with no useful links whatsoever), and stays like that for a couple of minutes or so, even though MediaWiki:Sidebar itself looks perfectly fine. That's probably some weird MediaWiki bug (or maybe the database got desynchronized or corrupted?), but I thought I'd make you guys aware of that, in case you haven't already noticed. --KFYatek 14:24, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- I noticed that as well, but I thought it was page and not time-based. Than again, that'd probably be even more awkward... --BrickBreak 14:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Tiro Finale
Note, I would not include Tiro Finale as a separate game. It was designed as a promo game for the PSP game. --randomanon 09:23, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm, I think it make sense to put on a sidebar because it's a game with separate goal from PSP one, what do you think? --0x99 09:27, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- Nevermind, it doesn't even works. (/facepalm) --0x99 09:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- It really is a sub game to it because it borrows much of the same content from the PSP game. The difference being is the PSP game is an RPG dungeon with VN elements and Tiro Finale is a simple mini-game app where you attack and defeat witches. They even have it so you play Tiro Finale to unlock content related to the PSP game. That's why we've kept it on the same page. I'd also suggest adding (PSP) to Portable as many people call it that. --randomanon 09:34, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- Now that I say it, we may end up putting Tiro Finale on a separate subpage, linking to the Portable (PSP) main page, because of space issues. I suspect the PSP game will have a big expansion in content soon once the game's out. --randomanon 09:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm thinking of reorganizing stuffs into Portals since we have more non-anime stuff more than when we started. (more on that later) --0x99 09:54, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- I think the sidebar should simply be a list of pages that cover official games, not counting subpages. (What about the web browser mmo?) Once an English patch is out, the PSP game will probably need subpages split off. Shorter entries like the iP application could fit on a misc. games/apps page, but a games portal would deal with that. "Portal" is pretty vague, but does this mean, for example, Characters gets split up, "X in the game/manga/movie" gets pulled out of X's main character page, and each portal would have a characters page containing all of and only the medium specific stuff? KM 10:32, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, completely forgot about Online. Adding it. For more info on portal stuff, see Talk:Main Page#Wiki reorganization --0x99 10:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- I think the sidebar should simply be a list of pages that cover official games, not counting subpages. (What about the web browser mmo?) Once an English patch is out, the PSP game will probably need subpages split off. Shorter entries like the iP application could fit on a misc. games/apps page, but a games portal would deal with that. "Portal" is pretty vague, but does this mean, for example, Characters gets split up, "X in the game/manga/movie" gets pulled out of X's main character page, and each portal would have a characters page containing all of and only the medium specific stuff? KM 10:32, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm thinking of reorganizing stuffs into Portals since we have more non-anime stuff more than when we started. (more on that later) --0x99 09:54, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- Now that I say it, we may end up putting Tiro Finale on a separate subpage, linking to the Portable (PSP) main page, because of space issues. I suspect the PSP game will have a big expansion in content soon once the game's out. --randomanon 09:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Comments on Re-Org
I'll be frank. I really really x1000 prefer the old sidebar navigation. It wasn't perfect but I could find things much much easier. The new one just doesn't make sense to me at all. The main thing is I want access to the anime links wherever I am surfing on the site. I'm resorting to doing searches or going constantly back to the main page to refer to "episode 10" or "characters." Why things like "Glossary" and "Events" have direct links from the sidebar, I don't understand, nor does "Contents" grouping or selections chosen for it make sense to me. Again, I really prefer to see manga and games separated and not glomped into one "Series" category.
If you want simple and short, here's what I'd like to see:
- Anime, with at a minimum, sublinks to episodes and characters subpages. On another note, I don't think you need to separate characters from witches for the anime. It's fine to separate by medium but it's inconvenient to have them separated from one another for the anime. I like to see the full list of them together.
- Manga category. Sublinks to each manga is optional. If space is premium, it's not necessary to list out all three. Although I'd rather see sublinks dropped out of Community or Toolbox or "Random Page" (do we really need that?) instead.
- Official Games category. Again, sublinks are optional for space.
- I want a direct link back to Products. The grouping header to me doesn't matter, but Documents and Materials belong with it. I'm fine if you put them back into one link "Documents" if space is an issue.
- I think you can drop things like Glossary, Notes or Runes and instead link Madoka Magica Articles and add those links to that page. To me, a comprehensive page like this makes sense to link on a sidebar, and is more useful than three separate links to individual pages. Plus it conserves space.
When navigating this site, because there's so much content, it really helps to have a useful sidebar. At the moment, as well as I know the site, it's become onerous to get to where I want. Please, if you don't agree with my suggestions, at least change it back to the old one. I'd be happier with that then it is currently. --randomanon 10:50, 28 March 2012 (UTC)