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-supporting that theory: homura healed her eyes with magic
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[[file:Official_art_kyouko_family.jpg|Official art from Megumi magazine]]
[[file:Official_art_kyouko_family.jpg|Official art from Megumi magazine]]
[[file:Kyouko flashback.jpg|thumb|Same clothes as official art.]]


This official art for Kyouko's family makes it clear both her and her little sister are attired in modern clothing...notice the jeans, hoodie and sneakers, plus the modern style dress, socks and shoes of her little sister.  I really think this speculah should be deleted or vastly edited down as the evidence is squarely against it. --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 20:06, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
This official art for Kyouko's family makes it clear both her and her little sister are attired in modern clothing...notice the jeans, hoodie and sneakers, plus the modern style dress, socks and shoes of her little sister.  I really think this speculah should be deleted or vastly edited down as the evidence is squarely against it. --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 20:06, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
:I fail to see why. The speculah isn't about how old Kyouko is, but about whether or not Puella Magi could be said to be immortal due to their zombie-like state. So far we've gotten a lot of evidence that suggests that Puella Magi could in fact fix or alter their bodies, as well as conserve them perfectly. Whether Kyouko is really a century old or not is really an aside and should probably be its own mini-speculah than part of the global immortality one.
:I fail to see why. The speculah isn't about how old Kyouko is, but about whether or not Puella Magi could be said to be immortal due to their zombie-like state. So far we've gotten a lot of evidence that suggests that Puella Magi could in fact fix or alter their bodies, as well as conserve them perfectly. Whether Kyouko is really a century old or not is really an aside and should probably be its own mini-speculah than part of the global immortality one.
::The "evidence" is based almost entirely on Kyouko and every time there's a point of theory made in favor of the speculah, it's overturned by facts against it.  First of all, Kyouko doesn't speak in an "archaic" dialect.  Ask any Japanese speaker.  Second, the only "Victorian" style that you ever see, are cardboard cut-outs which were clearly a SHAFT stylistic choice.  The hoodie you see Kyouko wear in the flashback is exactly the same as the official art I posted (see above and to the right), which means the rest of her outfit is equally modern and this was before she became mahou shoujo.  So Kyouko is definitively from a modern time.  School isn't evidence of anything related to her age.  Pretty much nothing I'm seeing about Kyouko supports the speculah.  At the very least, the speculah should be revised to reflect the facts.  --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 20:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

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Considering that both Mami and Kyouko were visibly younger when they contracted, Kyouko was wearing modern clothes in the flashback, and neither Kyouko nor Mami knew very much at all about the mechanics of being a Magical Girl, I believe this theory can be safely written off as "Proven Wrong."

Not quite. The first time we see Kyouko as a magical girl, she already had the look we see today. The images were from her childhood before she contracted. They did now knew anything about the mechanics, well, simply because nor Kyubey nor anyone else told them. BrickBreak 02:03, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

My personal belief is such:

  • Kyubey has outright stated the bodies are just meat puppets, and as long as the Soul Gem is intact, the body can be repaired.
  • If you can repair your body from any state whatsoever as long as the Soul Gem is intact, then it goes without saying you can regenerate lost limbs and the like.
  • Arguably, you could make a brand new body if you needed, however the magic needed to do that would probably mean you'd need to find a Grief Seed very, very quickly.

Therefore, a Puella Magi is immortal in that they can just regenerate their body as long as they have the magic to do it. The real problem here is that, even if a Puella Magi doesn't age, so far we've seen that they have a life expectancy of "a couple of weeks or months" before a Witch inevitably kicks their ass. So it's possible no Puella Magi will ever live long enough to test that theory. -supporting that theory: homura healed her eyes with magic Official art from Megumi magazine

Same clothes as official art.

This official art for Kyouko's family makes it clear both her and her little sister are attired in modern clothing...notice the jeans, hoodie and sneakers, plus the modern style dress, socks and shoes of her little sister. I really think this speculah should be deleted or vastly edited down as the evidence is squarely against it. --randomanon 20:06, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I fail to see why. The speculah isn't about how old Kyouko is, but about whether or not Puella Magi could be said to be immortal due to their zombie-like state. So far we've gotten a lot of evidence that suggests that Puella Magi could in fact fix or alter their bodies, as well as conserve them perfectly. Whether Kyouko is really a century old or not is really an aside and should probably be its own mini-speculah than part of the global immortality one.
The "evidence" is based almost entirely on Kyouko and every time there's a point of theory made in favor of the speculah, it's overturned by facts against it. First of all, Kyouko doesn't speak in an "archaic" dialect. Ask any Japanese speaker. Second, the only "Victorian" style that you ever see, are cardboard cut-outs which were clearly a SHAFT stylistic choice. The hoodie you see Kyouko wear in the flashback is exactly the same as the official art I posted (see above and to the right), which means the rest of her outfit is equally modern and this was before she became mahou shoujo. So Kyouko is definitively from a modern time. School isn't evidence of anything related to her age. Pretty much nothing I'm seeing about Kyouko supports the speculah. At the very least, the speculah should be revised to reflect the facts. --randomanon 20:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)