Talk:Guidelines

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Image galleries

I see a flaw in that organization: where do we put image macros, such as that apples-no-apple-apples-again macro? In the "screenshot" section?
Also, we should add the case when images don't belong in any section ... --Homerun-chan 15:28, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

That's hard to say, since they're neither "screenshots" nor "fanart." I'd either put them into "screenshots" or an additional "miscellaneous" section, which would take care of those images that don't belong in any section. Momoism 16:00, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
I think we need an extra category for that kind of non-fanart analysis montages, for stuff such as that and half the Grief Seed page. --BrickBreak 16:10, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, that "Miscellaneous" section seems to solve both problems at once. Let's just hope it doesn't become as much of a clusterfuck as the galleries we have now... (by that I mean, let's hope people don't get lazy and put everything there) --Homerun-chan 16:17, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
I edited this page and the gallery template to reflect the addition of the Miscellaneous category, and to provide some examples of what should go in there. Anyone using it as a dumping ground will be summarily keel-hauled. Momoism 17:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

This page is pretty hidden at the moment, I wonder if new editors will be able to see it before their first edits. Would linking it in the main page or the sidebar be apt solutions? --BrickBreak 15:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

But it is linked on the main page, right in the second line under the logo... --KFYatek 15:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
/facepalm --BrickBreak 16:11, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Actually it's interresting that you didn't see it: it shows how un-noticeable that link is. We could add a link to the guidelines at the bottom of the posting pages, just like the talkpage notice ("please sign your comments blah blah blah"), but we'll have to ask 0x99 to do it because I have no idea how he did it, and right now I don't have the time to look up for it ... --Homerun-chan 16:21, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to mention that I've been seeing feedback from several sites now about confusion I'm seeing related to a mix of fanmade work with facts on the website. You may not be aware, but this site is linked on the Madoka threads on 2ch and referenced on other Japanese sites. Many people who aren't fluent with the English language visit because of the wiki's reputation in the past of accurate predictions and interesting analyses. However, now, they are getting confused by the humor of fanmade items and comments side-by-side on the same page of actual screenshots, facts, etc. I think the separation needs to be made very clear, especially for things like photo-shopped screenshots. For example, the Homura kissing Madoka one in episode 11, I've heard it come up multiple times as to whether it's real, why it's there etc. It should be clear enough that someone with only a basic understanding of English can understand what is canon to Madoka vs. say tongue-in-cheek fan humor etc. This also applies to visitors who haven't seen Madoka yet, so wouldn't be able to separate fact from fiction on their own. -randomanon 22:26, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I reorganized and separated the fan art from the rest of the images and added the disclaimer. --Mutopis 00:47, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Ah that's cool. I didn't expect such a swift response...and wasn't even thinking the disclaimer would be re-used. Just explaining why I wanted to see us separate out the galleries as suggested in the guidelines by official art, sceenshots, fanart etc. From my perspective, having that done now is good, thanks. -randomanon 00:52, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I moved the disclaimers to templates. Use {{fanart}} for a big and certain ("everything") disclaimer, and {{fanartSmall}} for a smaller and less certain ("some") disclaimer. --kFYatek 02:29, 17 May 2011 (UTC)