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SUGGESTION: Since the character pages all need to be cleaned up a little big in general (speculah about characters should be moved to a new speculah page for characters, for example, and be tagged right/wrong/uncomfirmed), redundant discussions need to be trimmed, etc etc, just add a "in the manga" section to each character page that will, as necessary, detail their involvement in the mangas. Furthermore, I believe that each major manga character (so Kazumi and Oriko, at least) should get their own page on the characters page. Just add a section for manga-only characters.
 
SUGGESTION: Since the character pages all need to be cleaned up a little big in general (speculah about characters should be moved to a new speculah page for characters, for example, and be tagged right/wrong/uncomfirmed), redundant discussions need to be trimmed, etc etc, just add a "in the manga" section to each character page that will, as necessary, detail their involvement in the mangas. Furthermore, I believe that each major manga character (so Kazumi and Oriko, at least) should get their own page on the characters page. Just add a section for manga-only characters.
 
:The character pages do need clean-up however I don't think Kazumi or any other manga-only characters (like in Oriko) should be included with the Madoka ones.  The website is dedicated to Puella Magi (or Mahou Shoujo) Madoka Magica.  That means the character pages should really only be dedicated to those characters in the anime.  The manga only characters belong in the manga section as something in addition that might interest people, but isn't the main focus or draw to this site. --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 07:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:The character pages do need clean-up however I don't think Kazumi or any other manga-only characters (like in Oriko) should be included with the Madoka ones.  The website is dedicated to Puella Magi (or Mahou Shoujo) Madoka Magica.  That means the character pages should really only be dedicated to those characters in the anime.  The manga only characters belong in the manga section as something in addition that might interest people, but isn't the main focus or draw to this site. --[[User:Randomanon|randomanon]] 07:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
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::I agree with the sentiment, but why have a wiki for the anime and a wiki for the manga when we could have a single unified wiki that properly identifies what comes from the manga and what comes from the anime? This just seems like it'll split the fanbase between working on a manga wiki and working on an anime wiki... and guess which one will get more attention and which one will be incomplete and barely worked on if that happens? I'm not seeing the harm in adding manga material, as long as it is clearly identified and marked which is what. Not only that, but knowing that the mangas are being produced by the same company, they may reveal things that will fill in the blanks for the anime. If a decision can't be reached by single individuals, though... why not hold a poll?

Revision as of 08:07, 5 May 2011

Is it "Niko" or "Nico"? The scanlations use the latter. -Universalperson 14:23, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Wait. Independent chapters?

I'm seeing Chapters One through Three of Kazumi on Mangafox. Yet the first volume is only coming out in May 12th? I am kinda nob when it comes to manga... so, does "serialization" means that these chapters are coming out in Kirara Forward each month, before they're packed together and released as a volume? BrickBreak 20:26, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Most manga series are published chapter-by-chapter each week or month in a magazine, with volumes being released whenever a set number of chapters is reached. 64.89.144.100 20:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
In that case, should we add each chapter's release date? BrickBreak 22:04, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
I believe a release date along with a summary of the chapters would be in order, with proper spoiler tags of course.

Runes?

I think there is some runic text in Kazumi chapter 1. Anyone have a translation? - Universalperson 13:23, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a scan or something? Might as well try and translate them, I'm pretty bored anyway. Also, we should probably make a page for them then, Runes:Kazumi Magica or something. --Homerun-chan 14:26, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
I see them here, but suddenly I'm not sure if they were added there by the scanlators or not. There might be some here as well, I'm not sure. - Universalperson 15:08, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, the first one is obviously added by the scanlator. It reads "scanlated by /a/non for /a/non, raws from [something I couldn't read due to quality]". --Homerun-chan 15:24, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
The mysterious characters on the second one don't look like any recognized runes to me. --KFYatek 16:51, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
In case you're talking about "入口は??", that's japanese. I can't make it quite out, but it should say something like "Entrance this way". --TATZL 16:57, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Oh my. I know enough Japanese to know what 入口 is, but it's such an obfuscated font I'd never tell it's kanji. Thanks for pointing it out! --KFYatek 18:28, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
The last scanlator runeword matches the raw provider name in the watermark in the next page, and it's mixing archaic and modern.
Thank you all very much, sorry for the inconvenience. - Universalperson 17:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Juubey?

Where'd you get this from? O.o BrickBreak 13:37, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Juubey.jpg
It seems that scans leaked on 2ch. TATZL 13:48, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Now notice the shadow next to Juubey in the first panel. Juubey may not be an Incubator after all... -- Universalperson 14:02, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Jubey's definitely an Incubator. The girl on the second page (I forget her name) calls him/her/it "the fairy that made us into puella magi". It seems that Kyubey is present on the first page, though...--urutapu 16:30, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Exactly. Kyubey is a hive mind. Why would he need to talk to himself like that? I think the fact that it's a "fairy" is going to be a major point. -- Universalperson 16:34, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Even if there's a hive mind, that doesn't mean they can simply telepathically talk or instantly know what another Incubator is up to. Like the Human Interfaces in Haruhi.--urutapu 16:36, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Volume 1

Dumb question: I would imagine that since it's being released the same time as Oriko it might get lost in the shuffle, but is there anyone who's planning to look through it and see if there are any differences/additions to the original serialized chapters? -- Universalperson 20:09, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

If someone will upload the scans (raws are fine) of the tankobon somewhere (preferably as some DDL, but torrent is OK, too), then I can do that. But seeing how Kazumi is rather unpopular, I'm not so sure of the scan availability. I don't plan on buying Kazumi myself. Not in the slightest. --KFYatek 20:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what concerns me. I'd do it myself, if I could get the scans, but...--Universalperson 21:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
It is? Uh... it's got half a million views in MangaFox, but then again, I guess that doesn't translate in the "Madoka is sold out EVERYWHERE" thing we had with the original manga. --BrickBreak 22:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
It's more that I'm worried Kazumi will be ignored when Oriko comes out. -- Universalperson 22:07, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Well obviously. Slapping the main characters on it = automatic profit. And Kazumi was just getting intresting :/ (well, to most people. I've liked it since the start. Though it might just be because I love Kazumi and real tech mixed with magic (the GPS, Yuuri's SMGs are almost Walther MPL's, etc.)) --BrickBreak 22:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Expansion

This is a question that also applies to Oriko.
Right now, we have a single page to cover everything in each manga release. Granted, they're nearly not the same scale as Madoka, and one of them is just a medium conversion with few changes. But still, there's more to it than just this. The most obvious example being a page for Kazumi herself, Umika and Kaoru, and another for the Pleiades Saints. And maybe then think about other stuff.
I volunteer to work on it, but I won't be able to until the weekend, university and fencing are keeping me locked up.
But that's not really my main question. That would be: should it be done? Okay, this is "Puella Magi wiki", not "Madoka wiki". But given the obviously huge focus on Madoka, and the apparent lack of interest in the spin-offs (so far), is it justifiable?
I certainly think so, but I want to hear from you. --BrickBreak 00:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

I myself am not interested in the spinoffs, but definitely think that Kazumi at least should get its own set of character pages and the like. My only problem is with Oriko: the current translation of the second volume's synopsis calls it the "concluding" volume, meaning that the series most likely isn't going to have enough content to justify taking up more than one page -- especially considering that any new insight into the anime characters can just be entered onto their preexisting pages. Momoism 03:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I support Kazumi pages. Oriko at the very least should get her own page. It's approximately 8 chapters, which is relatively significant. Aster Selene 05:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I think it's best to separate manga characterizations from the anime ones. Oriko is described as a spin-off, so events and characterizations may not be considered canon to the anime. We know even the direct adaptation manga has significant differences from the anime. For example, the manga shows Sayaka killing the men on the train whereas Shinbo in the anime chose not to go that route. Either interpretation was acceptable to Urobuchi who left the scenario open to both so neither are technically wrong but it would be confusing and a bit misleading to not clearly state what was in the anime and what was in the manga. This would also apply to the background information on Madoka's characters from Oriko. I'm all for having it included but the source should be clearly stated and preferably categorized so it avoids any confusion. As for Kazumi, as long as the pages stay under the manga section, it sounds fine, just don't want it under the characters page where people might get confused with them and the Madoka anime characters. --randomanon 05:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

SUGGESTION: Since the character pages all need to be cleaned up a little big in general (speculah about characters should be moved to a new speculah page for characters, for example, and be tagged right/wrong/uncomfirmed), redundant discussions need to be trimmed, etc etc, just add a "in the manga" section to each character page that will, as necessary, detail their involvement in the mangas. Furthermore, I believe that each major manga character (so Kazumi and Oriko, at least) should get their own page on the characters page. Just add a section for manga-only characters.

The character pages do need clean-up however I don't think Kazumi or any other manga-only characters (like in Oriko) should be included with the Madoka ones. The website is dedicated to Puella Magi (or Mahou Shoujo) Madoka Magica. That means the character pages should really only be dedicated to those characters in the anime. The manga only characters belong in the manga section as something in addition that might interest people, but isn't the main focus or draw to this site. --randomanon 07:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I agree with the sentiment, but why have a wiki for the anime and a wiki for the manga when we could have a single unified wiki that properly identifies what comes from the manga and what comes from the anime? This just seems like it'll split the fanbase between working on a manga wiki and working on an anime wiki... and guess which one will get more attention and which one will be incomplete and barely worked on if that happens? I'm not seeing the harm in adding manga material, as long as it is clearly identified and marked which is what. Not only that, but knowing that the mangas are being produced by the same company, they may reveal things that will fill in the blanks for the anime. If a decision can't be reached by single individuals, though... why not hold a poll?