https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk:Kyubey Talk:Kyubey - Revision history 2024-03-28T21:10:39Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.39.3 https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kyubey&diff=67309&oldid=prev McKnight: Kyubey's (in)ability to revive the dead. 2016-09-27T10:16:02Z <p>Kyubey&#039;s (in)ability to revive the dead.</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:16, 27 September 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l62">Line 62:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 62:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Features Kyubey getting ripped to shreads ,  pretty well made. [[User:Espeon|Espeon]] 20:53, 6 July 2015 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Features Kyubey getting ripped to shreads ,  pretty well made. [[User:Espeon|Espeon]] 20:53, 6 July 2015 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==When was this stated?==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*I read under the unproven theories section that Kyubey states early in the series that he cannot bring dead people back to life.  I've just watched the entire series through recently, and not only did I not catch on to that, but that goes against certain events in the first audio drama and The Different Story, in which he revives a cat and Sayaka respectively.  If I did in fact miss anything he might have said, would someone please point it out? [[User:McKnight|McKnight]]</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">** A friend of mine also once said that the same thing is mentioned during the final timeline, which is presumably the anime's finale, but I've re-watched that whole episode in particular just shortly afterwards, and there isn't ''anything'' said about wishes in general. [[User:McKnight|McKnight]]</ins></div></td></tr> </table> McKnight https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kyubey&diff=64884&oldid=prev Espeon: /* Gender */ 2015-07-06T20:53:03Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Gender</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:53, 6 July 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l58">Line 58:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 58:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::Also, CrownClown: I think &quot;boku&quot; tends to be used more often in song lyrics simply because it&#039;s easier to fit in, mora-wise! :D [[Special:Contributions/64.89.144.110|64.89.144.110]] 03:13, 17 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::Also, CrownClown: I think &quot;boku&quot; tends to be used more often in song lyrics simply because it&#039;s easier to fit in, mora-wise! :D [[Special:Contributions/64.89.144.110|64.89.144.110]] 03:13, 17 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">====Fan-Video====</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Features Kyubey getting ripped to shreads ,  pretty well made. [[User:Espeon|Espeon]] 20:53, 6 July 2015 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key pmsite_wiki:diff::1.12:old-43099:rev-64884 --> </table> Espeon https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kyubey&diff=43099&oldid=prev 64.89.144.110: /* Gender */ 2012-04-17T03:13:09Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Gender</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:13, 17 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l53">Line 53:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 53:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Isn&#039;t &quot;boku&quot; kind of gender-neutral? I mean, I was taught that it can be used by anyone and tends to be the default in gender-neutral song lyrics. It&#039;s pretty commonly used this way in anime and manga. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 02:05, 16 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Isn&#039;t &quot;boku&quot; kind of gender-neutral? I mean, I was taught that it can be used by anyone and tends to be the default in gender-neutral song lyrics. It&#039;s pretty commonly used this way in anime and manga. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 02:05, 16 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::In recent times, they grudgingly allow it (like the use of a universal &quot;he&quot;), but this is unlikely to be proper Japanese. For example, Kyon, in the Haruhi light novels makes a big point of how Sasaki refers to herself with the pronoun &quot;boku&quot;, which gives her a tomboyish feel. [[User:Iruel|Iruel]] 03:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::In recent times, they grudgingly allow it (like the use of a universal &quot;he&quot;), but this is unlikely to be proper Japanese. For example, Kyon, in the Haruhi light novels makes a big point of how Sasaki refers to herself with the pronoun &quot;boku&quot;, which gives her a tomboyish feel. [[User:Iruel|Iruel]] 03:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::It's proper Japanese for young people in casual situations in the real world, and is becoming more prevalent among girls around the age of Madoka and company. Anime and manga may emphasize the former status of "boku" as a male-only pronoun as a quick-and-easy way of characterization: "She uses 'boku,' so we can tell that she's a 'tomboy' without wasting a lot of time on extra dialogue!" Personal pronouns and other indicators of gentle/harsh speech are often used this way in Japanese fiction, but shouldn't be understood as indicative of how people on the street actually talk. (In normal Japanese speech, it's actually common to almost never use personal pronouns at all! "I," "you," and so on can often be inferred from context alone.) A girl who uses "boku" in the real world wouldn't necessarily be considered masculine -- it all depends on her personality and the context in which she uses it.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::So far as Kyuubey is concerned, "boku" may be useful just because of the social status it implies: the standard "watashi" is slightly formal (and would put Kyuubey on the same level as the girls), "watakushi" would be too humble, and "ore" would be too harsh. Any of the less-common pronouns would lend unwanted additional flavor to Kyuubey's speech, since -- as I wrote above -- they're more often used as characterization shortcuts in fictional works. "Boku" allows Kyuubey to keep relations with the girls casual and congenial, while slightly insinuating that he's on a higher social level than them (that is, he can afford to talk down to them).</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::Also, CrownClown: I think "boku" tends to be used more often in song lyrics simply because it's easier to fit in, mora-wise! :D [[Special:Contributions/64.89.144.110|64.89.144.110]] 03:13, 17 April 2012 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key pmsite_wiki:diff::1.12:old-43042:rev-43099 --> </table> 64.89.144.110 https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kyubey&diff=43042&oldid=prev Iruel: /* Gender */ 2012-04-16T03:00:04Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Gender</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:00, 16 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l52">Line 52:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 52:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Only in &quot;human terms&quot; to make it easy for the girls when they are addressing to him. I dont think Kyubey thinks of iself personally as a &quot;he&quot;... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Only in &quot;human terms&quot; to make it easy for the girls when they are addressing to him. I dont think Kyubey thinks of iself personally as a &quot;he&quot;... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Isn&#039;t &quot;boku&quot; kind of gender-neutral? I mean, I was taught that it can be used by anyone and tends to be the default in gender-neutral song lyrics. It&#039;s pretty commonly used this way in anime and manga. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 02:05, 16 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Isn&#039;t &quot;boku&quot; kind of gender-neutral? I mean, I was taught that it can be used by anyone and tends to be the default in gender-neutral song lyrics. It&#039;s pretty commonly used this way in anime and manga. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 02:05, 16 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::In recent times, they grudgingly allow it (like the use of a universal "he"), but this is unlikely to be proper Japanese. For example, Kyon, in the Haruhi light novels makes a big point of how Sasaki refers to herself with the pronoun "boku", which gives her a tomboyish feel. [[User:Iruel|Iruel]] 03:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table> Iruel https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kyubey&diff=43041&oldid=prev CrownClown: /* Gender */ 2012-04-16T02:05:15Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Gender</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:05, 16 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l51">Line 51:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 51:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Kyubey refers himself using &quot;Boku&quot; so i think he consider himself as male [[User:Kimidori|Kimidori]] 10:29, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Kyubey refers himself using &quot;Boku&quot; so i think he consider himself as male [[User:Kimidori|Kimidori]] 10:29, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Only in &quot;human terms&quot; to make it easy for the girls when they are addressing to him. I dont think Kyubey thinks of iself personally as a &quot;he&quot;... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Only in &quot;human terms&quot; to make it easy for the girls when they are addressing to him. I dont think Kyubey thinks of iself personally as a &quot;he&quot;... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::Isn't "boku" kind of gender-neutral? I mean, I was taught that it can be used by anyone and tends to be the default in gender-neutral song lyrics. It's pretty commonly used this way in anime and manga. --[[User:CrownClown|CrownClown]] 02:05, 16 April 2012 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key pmsite_wiki:diff::1.12:old-42995:rev-43041 --> </table> CrownClown https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kyubey&diff=42995&oldid=prev Mutopis: ::::::Only in "human terms" to make it easy for the girls when they are addressing to him. I dont think Kyubey thinks of iself personally as a "he"... --~~~~ 2012-04-15T10:41:03Z <p>::::::Only in &quot;human terms&quot; to make it easy for the girls when they are addressing to him. I dont think Kyubey thinks of iself personally as a &quot;he&quot;... --~~~~</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:41, 15 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l50">Line 50:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 50:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Not to mention it would be a nightmare, since we will have to hunt down every page that mentions Kyubey as &quot;he&quot;. Personally I would let it be as it is since the girls think of Kyubey as a &quot;he&quot; even if &quot;it&quot; thinks of itself as being genderless...--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:06, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Not to mention it would be a nightmare, since we will have to hunt down every page that mentions Kyubey as &quot;he&quot;. Personally I would let it be as it is since the girls think of Kyubey as a &quot;he&quot; even if &quot;it&quot; thinks of itself as being genderless...--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:06, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Kyubey refers himself using &quot;Boku&quot; so i think he consider himself as male [[User:Kimidori|Kimidori]] 10:29, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Kyubey refers himself using &quot;Boku&quot; so i think he consider himself as male [[User:Kimidori|Kimidori]] 10:29, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::Only in "human terms" to make it easy for the girls when they are addressing to him. I dont think Kyubey thinks of iself personally as a "he"... --[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key pmsite_wiki:diff::1.12:old-42992:rev-42995 --> </table> Mutopis https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kyubey&diff=42992&oldid=prev Kimidori: /* Gender */ 2012-04-15T10:29:46Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Gender</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:29, 15 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l49">Line 49:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 49:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The problem with that is they aren&#039;t in common dictionaries and aren&#039;t standard English. [[User:KM|KM]] 09:09, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The problem with that is they aren&#039;t in common dictionaries and aren&#039;t standard English. [[User:KM|KM]] 09:09, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Not to mention it would be a nightmare, since we will have to hunt down every page that mentions Kyubey as &quot;he&quot;. Personally I would let it be as it is since the girls think of Kyubey as a &quot;he&quot; even if &quot;it&quot; thinks of itself as being genderless...--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:06, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Not to mention it would be a nightmare, since we will have to hunt down every page that mentions Kyubey as &quot;he&quot;. Personally I would let it be as it is since the girls think of Kyubey as a &quot;he&quot; even if &quot;it&quot; thinks of itself as being genderless...--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:06, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Kyubey refers himself using &quot;Boku&quot; so i think he consider himself as male</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Kyubey refers himself using &quot;Boku&quot; so i think he consider himself as male [[User:Kimidori|Kimidori]] 10:29, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[User:Kimidori|Kimidori]] 10:29, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key pmsite_wiki:diff::1.12:old-42991:rev-42992 --> </table> Kimidori https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kyubey&diff=42991&oldid=prev Kimidori: /* Gender */ 2012-04-15T10:29:28Z <p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Gender</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:29, 15 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l49">Line 49:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 49:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The problem with that is they aren&#039;t in common dictionaries and aren&#039;t standard English. [[User:KM|KM]] 09:09, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The problem with that is they aren&#039;t in common dictionaries and aren&#039;t standard English. [[User:KM|KM]] 09:09, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Not to mention it would be a nightmare, since we will have to hunt down every page that mentions Kyubey as &quot;he&quot;. Personally I would let it be as it is since the girls think of Kyubey as a &quot;he&quot; even if &quot;it&quot; thinks of itself as being genderless...--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:06, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Not to mention it would be a nightmare, since we will have to hunt down every page that mentions Kyubey as &quot;he&quot;. Personally I would let it be as it is since the girls think of Kyubey as a &quot;he&quot; even if &quot;it&quot; thinks of itself as being genderless...--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:06, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::Kyubey refers himself using "Boku" so i think he consider himself as male</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:Kimidori|Kimidori]] 10:29, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key pmsite_wiki:diff::1.12:old-42988:rev-42991 --> </table> Kimidori https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kyubey&diff=42988&oldid=prev Mutopis: ::::Not to mention it would be a nightmare, since we will have to hunt down every page that mentions Kyubey as "he". Personally I would let it be as it is since the girls think of Kyubey as a "he" even if "it" thinks of itself as being genderless...- 2012-04-15T10:06:33Z <p>::::Not to mention it would be a nightmare, since we will have to hunt down every page that mentions Kyubey as &quot;he&quot;. Personally I would let it be as it is since the girls think of Kyubey as a &quot;he&quot; even if &quot;it&quot; thinks of itself as being genderless...-</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:06, 15 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l48">Line 48:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 48:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Does that mean that the references to Kyuubee on this wiki should be neutralised, ze/zie/sie instead of he/she? Might even help more people become aware of gender neutrality among humans! - [http://wiki.puella-magi.net/index.php?title=Kyubey&amp;curid=17&amp;diff=42969&amp;oldid=42520] 08:16, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**Does that mean that the references to Kyuubee on this wiki should be neutralised, ze/zie/sie instead of he/she? Might even help more people become aware of gender neutrality among humans! - [http://wiki.puella-magi.net/index.php?title=Kyubey&amp;curid=17&amp;diff=42969&amp;oldid=42520] 08:16, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The problem with that is they aren&#039;t in common dictionaries and aren&#039;t standard English. [[User:KM|KM]] 09:09, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::The problem with that is they aren&#039;t in common dictionaries and aren&#039;t standard English. [[User:KM|KM]] 09:09, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::Not to mention it would be a nightmare, since we will have to hunt down every page that mentions Kyubey as "he". Personally I would let it be as it is since the girls think of Kyubey as a "he" even if "it" thinks of itself as being genderless...--[[User:Mutopis|Mutopis]] 10:06, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key pmsite_wiki:diff::1.12:old-42982:rev-42988 --> </table> Mutopis https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kyubey&diff=42982&oldid=prev KM: moving to talk page 2012-04-15T09:09:27Z <p>moving to talk page</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 09:09, 15 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l42">Line 42:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 42:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Fight with witches it&#039;s a part of the contract? Or contract mean only become to puella magi? [[User:A|A]] 06:30, 26 April 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Fight with witches it&#039;s a part of the contract? Or contract mean only become to puella magi? [[User:A|A]] 06:30, 26 April 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Kyubey is incredibly vague about the contract, so it&#039;s unclear if puellae magi &#039;&#039;must&#039;&#039; fight witches outside of ensuring their own survival (as they need Grief Seeds to counteract the corruption caused by the use of magic and/or the build-up of negative emotions). I suppose a girl could contract, get her wish, and never fight witches, but she would likely end up a witch herself very soon. [[User:Momoism|Momoism]] 18:21, 26 April 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Kyubey is incredibly vague about the contract, so it&#039;s unclear if puellae magi &#039;&#039;must&#039;&#039; fight witches outside of ensuring their own survival (as they need Grief Seeds to counteract the corruption caused by the use of magic and/or the build-up of negative emotions). I suppose a girl could contract, get her wish, and never fight witches, but she would likely end up a witch herself very soon. [[User:Momoism|Momoism]] 18:21, 26 April 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== Gender ==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*On the Blu-ray commentary it was pointed by [[Gen Urobuchi]] that Kyubey has no gender.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">**Does that mean that the references to Kyuubee on this wiki should be neutralised, ze/zie/sie instead of he/she? Might even help more people become aware of gender neutrality among humans! - [http://wiki.puella-magi.net/index.php?title=Kyubey&amp;curid=17&amp;diff=42969&amp;oldid=42520] 08:16, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::The problem with that is they aren't in common dictionaries and aren't standard English. [[User:KM|KM]] 09:09, 15 April 2012 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key pmsite_wiki:diff::1.12:old-28278:rev-42982 --> </table> KM