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Huh. The subtitles for these films are, uh, unexciting. Are they going to go ahead with a "Story" motif for the third film's title? If so, maybe they'll go with something as pompous as "The Greatest Story Ever Told." (Of course, with no Swedish Jesus in sight ;-).) Animerican-Redeemed 06:21, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

I thought it was pretty nice that they name the first film "The Beginning Story". --0x99 08:50, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

The movie is going to be a simultaneous release, any idea how long is the duration? Something tells me hardcore fans will try to watch both of them together on the same day--Mutopis 09:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

link

Madokagoodies comiket.jpg

Differences, Quality

Madoka Magica Films' Ad Aired With New Theme by ClariS

A 30-second commercial began airing for the first two Puella Magi Madoka Magica films on Saturday, and it features the new theme song "Luminous" by the teenaged female duo ClariS. (yep, new song) --Mutopis 10:35, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

the movie version quality will be different than the tv and blu-ray. are we going to add a new subsection for that? --Mutopis 10:35, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Mezamashi TV just aired a feature this morning with clips from the movies that features a fancied up transformation sequence for both Sayaka and Mami (as well as completely new material). Screens can be found here in case the YT link gets taken down.--ren 23:53, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Movie Premiere

Madoka Magica in the fucking Grand Rex.jpg

Is anyone is going to go or can go? If so, would anyone like to take notes or pics so it can be contributed to the wikia? --Mutopis 02:29, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

I plan on going to the NYC one, so I'll try to take notes if I can. No guarantees on pictures. --CrownClown 02:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to the San Francisco one and don't mind taking photos/notes. --ren 05:34, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Back from the San Francisco show. I got some shots of the crowd and have some notes from memory ready to type out, but it'll take a while... all I'll say for now is watching with a non-JP audience might have ruined the experience a bit.--ren 10:26, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm heading to the LA one on a Saturday. I can't believe it's almost upon me already. I'll be sure to acquire someone's camera so I can snap some photos as keepsake, and I'll try to purchase everything. M-maybe I can purchase multiples of some things and give them away as gifts to #madoka. Holycrap 08:14, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Movie Premiere in Japan

Has the movie premiered yet in Japan? (I get a bit confused by the time difference) If so, is there any news out? --Silvermoon424 16:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

It already premiered about a day ago or so. Some kind Japanese Anon already offered a write up of the most notable things. Here it is:


Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Beginning Story

I watched this yesterday and want to write down my observation and thoughts, just for your curiosity. Excuse me for my poor English though, it’s not my mother tongue.

Also, SPOILER WARNING

First of all;

1) They said it was going to be a recap. I say, SHINBO THE MASTER TROLLER. Every scenes have got certain changes-more or less-and, as far as I remember, all nearly all of the highlights scenes have been REDRAWN. It’s not merely a recap; I would call it a complete overhaul.

2) Those changes are so significant that, even though I had recently watched Madoka all over again-for my fourth time-on Niconico last week, it just felt like a completely new anime. If you haven’t watched Madoka for a while, I guarantee, it will be just as fresh as it was in 2011.

Story

1) There are not many changes or differences and most of them seem to be insignificant. I recognized some changes in the order of certain scenes, probably to join all the separate episodes together into a single continuing piece.

2) The first part, as it was revealed earlier in the morning, covers the first 8 episodes; it ends with ‘I’m such a fool’ and that god damn Kyubey lecturing us about the meaning of mahout-shojo.

Scenes

1) Apparently, there are few scenes that have been cut out, like the one with Madoka in a cafe asking Homura if she could help Sayaka. The dialogue itself seems to be absorbed into the other scene on the school’s roof. The scene where Sayaka makes her contract is also made very brief, with no dialogue at all.

2) There are four transformation sequences; new ones each for Sayaka and Kyoko, TWO FOR MAMI. They are of course much better than the ones on the TV series. Sayaka’s transformation takes place underwater and clearly resembles that of the little mermaid, or maybe her fate. Kyoko performs a nice dance with her spear while transforming, if you know what I mean.

3) It shows Mami’s Soul Gem getting shattered into pieces when Charlotte does MOGUMOGU. The entire sequence -Mami vs Charlotte- has actually become a little bit more crual, although I can’t explain why and how. Maybe because the way Charlotte moves, or it could be something about that new soundtrack.

4) For those who are concerned about all those beautiful shaft necks; rejoice. You can enjoy those nice angles of 90 degrees on the huge cinema screen.

5) THAT INU-CURRY WORLD FILLING THE ENTIRE CINEMA SCREEN.

6) The very last part of the new ending animation features an unknown pink silhouette -most likely that of Godoka- with another silhouette that is somewhat smaller and floating inside its belly, or womb?

Music

1) This is where I'm giving the most credit. Kajiura has once again done a magnificent job. I just can’t imagine the Madoka universe anymore without her works.

2) There are a number of new soundtracks; including the other two of which I haven't even heard so far. There are three -so far as I’ve counted- newly rearranged Sis Puella Magica(the main theme), two for Conturbatio(the Sayaka theme); one of those is a vocal version and played during the Sayaka vs Elsa Maria. It sounds something like an aria -like one from opera-makes the scene even more tragic. It is so heart breaking.

3) Credens Justitiam also has got a vocal version, definitely by Kalafina. You can assume how much Shaft cares about Mami.

4) The Homura vs Charlotte battle has got a new soundtrack, as well as the scene where Sayaka turns into a witch ;_; If you prefer Decretum, you might be a bit disappointed, although the new soundtrack is just as amazing.

5) EVEN WITCHES HAVE GOT THEIR OWN THEME SOUNDTRACK. Both Charlotte and Television-chan. the Charlotte theme is pretty nice. You can hardly wait for the release of the new soundtrack. I think there is one for Elsa Maria as well, but not sure if it was just the vocal version of Conturbatio which I have just mentioned above.

6) The ending theme is the movie arrange of Magia, at the full length. The new ending animation is, put it simply, an extended version of the original TV one, featuring silhouettes of several unknown magical girls before those of the main characters appear in the way like they did in the original one.

Trivia

1) They're now studying in a cathedral. I'm not even joking.

2) Mitagihara City now looks more urbanized then even NYC. Must be renamed St.Madokaburg or something.

3) Mrs Kaname is just as bro as she is in the TV series.

4) The teacher is still struggling with fertility stuff. No peace for poor Nakazawa-kun.

5) For the first time, they say, Madoka appears in a plain clothe! Remember that previously in the TV serious she shows only three types of outfit; school uniform, magical girl’s dress, and pajama.


Archive of the thread is here: http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72622214/

MochaCoffee 18:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Oh, my gosh, this sounds INCREDIBLE! This will definitely please everybody who is complaining about two "recap" movies being released. I can't wait to see screencaps! --Silvermoon424 01:07, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
4chan is going crazy with that pregnancy speculation, /u/ is going nuts, talking about Madoka and Homura's baby! --Mutopis 13:45, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Another madoka movie thread http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/72986699/ --Mutopis 12:27, 14 October 2012 (UTC)



Movie Thread /a/

I am not keeping a track on these threads, but if anyone is willing to do so, try to see if they can be done in order.

Luminous Lyrics

Found a romaji translation of the full lyrics. Not sure if its 100% accurate, but it seems legit after listening to Luminous while reading the lyrics.


Tsutaeatta kokoro no ondo wo
Sotto daiji sou ni kakae aruite ita


Kotae no nai negai no naka de
Kotoba wa mirai kaete


Osanai koro zutto yume ni mite ita watashi ni wa mada
Tooi kedo kimi ga ireba
Sukoshi wa tsuyoku nareru ki ga shite
Ashita no iro wo kasane nutta


Yonda kibou tadotte tometa sekai wo koeta
Akiramenai omoi itsu shika kokoro tsunageta
Naite itatte waratte ashita mukae ni yukou
Kimeta chikai tsurakute taorete mo
Kimi no kokoro wo mamoru tame


Kioku no nai toki no nagare ni
Kitto motomete ita atatakasa wa atte


Tsutsumareta shunkan subete no
Omoi wa kimi he meguru


Sora ni mukatte hashiri te ni shita
Ikutsu mono toutoi hikari mune ni shimatte
Watashi no naka no kagayaki ni kae
Mayoi wo zenbu haratte tobou


Seikai no mienai irikunda meiro wo nuke
Kimi ga nagashita namida de kokoro mezameta
Soshite shitta sekai wa konna ni mo mada kirei de
Atarashii kanousei wo umu darou
Toki no kakera no negai kara


Sukui shinjite wareta omoi
Watashi ga hajimari ni tatte
Kimi no egao torimodosu yo
Shinjitsu no kiseki ni natte


Yonda kibou tadotte tometa sekai wo koeta
Akiramenai omoi itsu shika kokoro tsunageta
Naite itatte waratte ashita mukae ni yukou
Kimeta chikai tsurakute taorete mo
Kimi no kokoro wo mamoru tame
Kimi no soba ni iyou


Source: http://beautifulsonglyrics.blogspot.com/2012/10/claris-luminous-lyrics.html#ixzz297dSwvLQ

EDIT: WELP, I seem to have found someone on tumblr who roughly translated the lyrics already in english. http://sparklyspacehugs.tumblr.com/post/33149041498/this-translation-is-a-work-in-progress-sup

--Riga92 21:23, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Film Strips

Here are galleries of the film strips the Japanese fans have been posting. Looks like quite a number of scenes have been reanimated. --Knon 17:13, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

another source of film strips --Mutopis 12:26, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Audio from End-of-The-Everlasting-Story Preview

Translated by /a/:

"Witches— The most evil harbingers of despair. As well as the accursed final form of magical girls who have fallen into despair. Once before, I had repeated the same time again and again, to wage war against that cruel fate. And in the end, with a single girl as a sacrifice, the cruel cycle of hope and despair was broken. The world was guided towards a new truth. Or so it seemed…

Mami: "Don't even think of chasing me… or we'll have to fight."

Kyoko: "Isn't that Hitomi's nightmare's…"

Sayaka: "Hitomi must have it rough, huh. She tried to make that insensitive blockhead her boyfriend and all…"

QB: "I'm almost certain that that's the very ability of those witches you once told me about…"

Kyoko: "You really don't look like you're trying to make fun of me. You're serious, aren't you?"

Homura:  "There's nothing but a cycle of sadness and hatred. I dream of the day that sorely missed smile comes back to this hopeless world."

Madoka: "Sorry for making you wait. You've always been giving it your all, haven't you?"

Homura: "…Madoka."

Madoka: "Let's go now. From now on, we'll be together forever."


An alternate, more literal(?) and independently done translation, courtesy of ANN user Juno016. Includes physical descriptions of preview. Animerican-Redeemed 06:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
  • the preview starts with the camera panning across rubble with painted figures of each of the magical girls
Homura (narration): Witches-- Those are the disaster "demons" (lit. "Magic users") who spread despair. And, the magical girls who have fallen into despair, and in the end, are reduced to a cursed form. The me living then, repeating the same time over and over, to fight against that cruel fate. And finally, a lone girl's sacrifice, therefore cutting the cruel chains of hope and despair, expectantly guiding the world to a new truth. ...or so it would seem...
  • actual clips from the third movie
  • Mami talking to someone off-screen with a cautious grin on her face
Mami: "Don't think of following me..."
  • we see Mami and Kyouko in their magical girl forms in a parking lot(?), weapons ready
Mami: "...or did you come to fight..."
  • Kyouko running through the street, talking into a cellphone
Kyoko: "Shizuki Hitomi's nightmare...?" (ED. Note: the earlier translation seemed to indicate that Hitomi's so-called nightmare found a physical manifestation, but now I'm not so sure, considering there's no possessive marker. Then again, it must be important enough to mention in the preview.... Animerican-Redeemed 06:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC))
  • Sayaka in her school outfit(?), nervously grinning
Sayaka: "Hitomi must be having trouble, huh. She made that insensitive guy her boyfriend and..."
  • Kyuubey's face
Kyuubey: "Exactly. It's just like the value/ability of the witches you explained once, huh."
  • Kyouko, with her back turned to the screen
Kyouko: "Calling me an 'idiot'... That's... not what you're doing, huh..."
  • she shaft-head-tilts toward the screen, with a serious look on her face
Kyouko: "You're... serious, aren't you."
  • Kyuubey is shown with something reflecting in his eyes
Homura (narration): "Nothing but sadness and hatred repeat. In this word that cannot be saved..."
  • closer inspection reveals the reflection to be Ultimate Madoka's silhouette in the starry sky
Homura: "...the hope to chance upon that dear/missed smile once again..."
  • Ultimate Madoka's silhouette reflects in a shaft-head-tilting Sayaka's eyes as well, in space(?)
Madoka: "Sorry to make you wait. Until now, you've continuously done your best, haven't you~"
  • Homura's face, surprised
Homura: "...Madoka..."
  • the actual silhouette of Madoka, but she's on a rocky, moon/asteroid-like rock formation surface now, possibly in front of Homura
Madoka: "Okay~ Let's go~"
  • coming 2013 screen

Movie ending

Where has all of this new info about the movie ending being radically different from the anime series come from? I hope it's not all just from the audio preview for the third movie... --Knon 06:19, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Mmmmmmyeah, I have a feeling this speculah has come from the audio. From what impressions I've read and skimmed, there are no changes to the ending's content-- for instance, I don't see anything being said about there being no Majuu (demons) or Sayaka not dying. I have a feeling that the third film might simply pick up sometime before that latter particular scene. Animerican-Redeemed 08:13, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
It would really bother me if the reason Sayaka is back to life is because of Madoka Ex Machina, it would really undermine the whole plot of the anime series as well as the cruel system that Urobuchi put in place. The reason Sayaka had to die (and insisted she needed to die) was to show that magical girls can still die, if he were to walk back from that by saying, "I decided to cheat and bring back Sayaka because of magic" would really be a cruel joke... --Mutopis 11:15, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
But there's nothing actually confirming that Sayaka has come back to life. Hearing her voice in the preview could mean anything: it could be a dream or a flashback, you name it. Like Animerican-Redeemed above, I haven't heard of any content changes, especially not something as drastic that would create wild speculations about a new universe. The reason I brought it up in the first place is because this information is already spread out on three pages (this one, 12th Episode, Yuri undertones). Frankly, even with it labelled as being highly speculative, until more people actually have access to the movies, I think the information is more confusing than anything. --Knon 14:11, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Ticket Sales

We need info on ticket sales in Japan as well as international viewing, is there a way to have this info and post it on the page? --Mutopis 12:08, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

(Also how much money the movie made in Japan and overseas too. If possible have a column showing their foreign currency and next to it changed into dollars --Mutopis 12:15, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

I tried looking for some info regarding ticket sales, not a lot to work on. --Mutopis 15:47, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Does anyone know where to find box office/ticket sales reliable data? --Mutopis 15:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

New World Speculation

The New World: Movie Version and Differences

(WARNING: THIS IS HIGHLY SPECULATIVE UNTIL RELEASE OF THE THIRD FILM)

There is speculation that the New World version of the movie is not the same from the anime series version. The New World concept of the movie version radically departs from the anime version that it alters the anime storyline. If the creators have made the story from the movie version a different story from that of the anime version, so we must consider both versions to be equally valid. If we consider the New World of the movie version and anime version to be canon then one acceptable explanation is that these two Worlds are from different universes. How these two Worlds are connected has not been explained. Since the universe from the anime series and the universe from the movie version share similarities but radical differences, they will both be treated as separate universes. The universe from the anime version will be indicated as Universe A, and the universe from the movie version will be indicated as Universe M, just as a matter of pragmatism.

  • At first it seems like the cycle of suffering has been broken and that Witches have never existed in the New World of Universe M, but this is proven to be false.
  • Despair continues to haunt magical girls in the New World of Universe M.
  • Sayaka is alive in Universe M. In Universe A, Sayaka gave her life as a sacrifice and Ultimate Madoka accepted Sayaka's fate and wish. Not only does Madoka accept Sayaka's decision, but helps her to transition to what it is speculated to be the afterlife, so Sayaka's doesnt have any regrets from her choice. Why is Sayaka still alive in Universe M is not known. It is not clear yet if this is the result of Ultimate Madoka's interfering with Sayaka's fate or something else at work.
  • Ultimate Madoka is able to show herself to Homura and perhaps interact with Universe M. In Universe A, only Madoka's voice and presence could be felt by Homura.
Perhaps Universe M is a prototype to Universe A, I mean, Madoka is a 4th grader, there is no way she would know how to completely tune the Universe from curse to hope in just one try. --Derp101(3) 20:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Alternatively, it could be that the Incubators began a counter attack that somehow jeopardized Madoka's Universe, I mean, there is a whole multiverse of timelines she has to watch over and if her wish works like a ripple effect then some time axis might be still undergoing transition. That also helps explaining the Online Game. --Derp101(3) 20:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
In my opinion, I think someone may be overthinking this.--Universalperson 22:18, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
My guess: Nothing from the anime ending is changed, there's no alternate universe, the scene with Homura holding the ribbons after Sayaka dies comes halfway through the third movie, Homura reacts that way because it's her first time seeing a girl actually get taken away by Madoka, QB reports Homura's reminiscing to the mothership and they research it, they find a new and creative way to exploit girls, QB tests it on Hitomi, it does not go as planned, out-of-control test subjects turn into witches, and QB will drop by Homura's apartment to casually mention that he wouldn't mind her help cleaning up, since the deaths of all humans on Earth would interfere with reaching his quota in a timely manner. KM 21:27, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Look, I know that there's a disclaimer about it being highly speculative, but still, this statement-- "The New World concept of the movie version radically departs from the anime version that it alters the anime storyline"-- sounds much too assumptive, much too "definitive" a statement from one making mere speculation. Again, is there anything at *all* in the second movie itself, discounting the trailer that has Sayaka's voice in it, that indicates a New World different from the one seen in the series? I've yet to hear anything about there being altered plot developments in the second movie; it sounds like everything shown in the series ending-- the Majuu, Madoka's wish, Sayaka's death, etc.-- hasn't been taken out. And even if Sayaka was brought back to life, would that really imply a "radically different" universe? Animerican-Redeemed 00:21, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

The way I see is this, if Sayaka is brought back from the death, it undermines the argument of the cycle of suffering and the system in place since magical girls can be brought back to life (unless there is an acceptable explanation). On the other hand, if the story was an "What If" scenario or a different universe where Sayaka didnt die it wont undermine the concept that magical girls die. --Mutopis 00:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I saw the movie today and don't get what difference from the anime version. They look the same. After ED, however, there is some introduction about the 3rd movie, which is very different. Are you talking about that? --Yorkwoo 10:26, 21 October 2012 (UTC
I can confirm Sayaka dies at the end of the second film, and they have the scene with Homura and "witch" wings. That hasn't changed at all. The simplest explanation is Sayaka's appearance in the third film's trailer is a flashblack. Less simple, but somewhat possible given some ambiguous statements from Urobuchi is that the Sayaka in the trailer is from a parallel timeline/universe/what have you. Or maybe we see her in the afterlife. As for Madoka being seen by Homura...the trailer actually does not have a scene or image where Homura sees Madoka. So it could all just be mental after all. --Universalperson 01:29, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Alternate Timelines?

Someone help me out here. I remember reading something which said (either in the movie brochure or the Sport Hochi interview) that said the third movie will include timelines that we're cut out the anime. I can't find the source though, so I don't know how accurate this is. Has anyone read something like this, and if so, where? Thanks --Universalperson 01:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Trailer for Movie 3

I went to one of the showings last night and recorded the movie 3 trailer for you guys. Enjoy. --CrownClown 17:04, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much! 208.120.155.143 03:39, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
You know that feeling of getting your conception of a happy ending kicked out of your groin? Well, I am kind of getting those vibes. --Derp101(3) 04:14, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Urobuchi lied about a happy ending! --Mutopis 07:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Another version Click to see-- 21:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Somebody reuploaded mine somewhere else already? You move fast, fandom. --CrownClown 13:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Dang, taken down to copyright violation (both links!). Guess they're more or less enforcing the warnings that I hear were given in the Music Box Theater in Chicago (and presumably the other theaters): do any filming, and get kicked out. Sigh.... well, uh, any chance of uploading a link to a private video of it again? --Animerican-Redeemed 16:39, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
I hear you can search for the dailymotion link in the archive of a certain imageboard and find threads where there's mediafire links, but those sorts of things probably shouldn't be directly provided on the wiki now that we know they want it taken down. (very nice work capturing the preview, though, that was exciting) KM 19:42, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
I still have the original copy I recorded, so I guess I could make a throw-away youtube account and upload it privately if it doesn't turn up again. My theater never made any announcement about no recording, but in general, the NYC showing was the worst of all of them, so I guess this is the upside. --CrownClown 20:01, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
"NYC showing was the worst of all of them" What do you mean by that? I had REALLY wanted to go, but... sold out tickets. :( So I'm curious to know what you mean. YazzyDream
There was not enough of the limited edition posters or signboards for even a fourth of the audience, there was absolutely no merchandise on sale, the audio had the bass so high that people close to the speakers were complaining of not being able to hear any dialogue, there was no intermission, the people working the projector were messing around with it during the showing so that the picture was made to be less than half of the original size before people complained and they put it back. All in all, it was a mess. --CrownClown 22:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
What day did you see it? I saw it on Monday, there was a break between the moves, the picture size was fine. I dunno about the sound since I was in the middle of the theatre, and I think the merchandise was Los Angeles only. --Universalperson 01:17, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
I was at the Saturday showing, and from what I've heard from other movie-goers, the NYC showing was the only one without merchandise for sale. --CrownClown 01:58, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

I ripped the YouTube video when it was still up, and uploaded it here: http://www.mediafire.com/?m1hmrctn6d3lc36

The archive is password protected; the password is the name of the witch famous for loving Mami just a bit too much, in all lowercase. --149.156.98.60 00:07, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi guys, long time no see ;) I watched the trailer and all I can say is that... I clearly see Oktavia in the reflections. Time for speculah? I can't come up with any coherent explanation, but it seems that the new story will somehow revolve around Sayaka/Oktavia. --kFYatek 00:17, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Really? Where? The image in Sayaka's eyes just looks like Ultimate Madoka to me.--Universalperson 01:21, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, that's Ultimate Madoka, not Oktavia. I just double-checked on my larger version to be sure, but it's definitely Madoka. --CrownClown 02:00, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Hm, at the second look it really is Ultimate Madoka. Now I feel ashamed and don't even know how could I mistake her for Oktavia. -_- --kFYatek 21:41, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Just noted something interesting: When Homura in the trailer is looking at the door that is exploding with light, the letters next to it say "KAZAMINO" with the M tilted over (the fact that it looks like the Greek Sigma character Σ may or may not be a coincidence.)--Universalperson 02:18, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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