Talk:The Rebellion Story/Spoiler

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Magic creating goddesses

I am starting to think that the Madoka verse is somehow tied to the Karma/Space-Time/Origin compression of Soul-Bond transdimensional network building through hard recurrence method.

• The continuous process of soul recycling amongst parallel dimensions and timelines is a controlled process guided by a general set of laws designed to dillude karmic accumulation and ensure the eventual achievement of perfec happiness, enlightenment or nirvana.
• However, any given set of rules cannot sustain itself in the face of a continuosly changing environment which inevitably stresses it's inherent flaws and loopholes. This in turn determines that at some point the system will find a rupture point that will lead to an accumulation of karmic energy in a single soul which potentially destabilizes the system toward destruction.
• Under normal circumstances, the system flaw will be corrected because most distortions would fall short of the system's flexibily to work under stress and karmic rebounding would come to eliminate the distortion to preserve the system but there are ways to increase karmic accumulation beyond the system's capacity and henceforth triggering a fall.
• Hard recurrence method occurs when a small rupture is repeated over and over under different parallel worlds to the point it begins forming a network of soul-bond energy which grows and potentializes itself beyond the systems security measures and creates enough "fuel" to create a new sustained soul cycle. It basically becomes a flaw so great that a new system needs to be build and the accumulated energy allows for it to happen.
• Once such situation is reached, the rupture point just needs to be connected to the infinite outer dimensional stream of energy that the network will assimilate a portion of it, compress under the soul which caused the rupture and restructure itself into a new working system improved over the previous flaws. Take note that once that process happens, the soul is restructured to infinitely produce the same amount of energy as the one utilized in it's ascention, the person essentially becomes an extention of the infinite stream governing a part of it's power under it's will.
• By all accounts, said process is irreversible as an infinite source of energy cannot be erased, depleted or returned since the affected soul is an extension of the stream and not someone who borrows it's power.
• In the odd case a turnover of system cycles happens to clash with one another, the soul controlling the previous system will be placed into an obervant/consultive role whereas direct command will be given to the bearer of the new one as to prevent previous improvements from being hampered while guaranteeing the continuation of the system improvement cycle.
• If a peaceful coexistence between the previous and the current system becomes impossible, the innevitable points of rupture that arise will guarantee the ascention of a third party that will sanate said points of rupture and assume authority over the previous conflicting souls.
• The cycles will happen as many times as necessary under different systems until a completely sustainable working model can be achieved and all souls find happiness. --Derp101(3) 16:39, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Opinions

Isn't it better to leave the opinions outside of the actual information page? Such as that part were it says "but what type of love? selfish love" or where it says "Madoka is literally a prisoner of Homura's love"? -Hoshiko 05:52, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

I concur. This page should be primarily informational. Analysis that Hoshiko allured to are better served under Yuri undertones. - Prima 06:46, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Cake Song

• Cake Song
• Cake Song (slowed down 800%)

Lyrics

Original	Romanization	English Translation
ケーキ、ケーキ、まぁるいケーキ まぁるいケーキはだぁれ？ ケーキはさやか？ ちーがーう 私はラズベリー まぁるいケーキは赤い色 ケーキは杏子？ ちーがーう あたしはリンゴ まぁるいケーキはベベが好き ケーキはマミ？ ちーがーう 私はチーズ まぁるいケーキは転がる ケーキは暁美さん？ ちがっ……います 私はかぼちゃ まぁるいケーキは甘いです ケーキはまどか？ ちーがーう わたしはメロン メロンが割れたら甘い夢 今夜のお夢は苦い夢 お皿の上には猫の夢 丸々太って召し上がれー！		Cake, Cake, a round cake Who is the round cake? Is the cake Sayaka? No - you're - wrong I'm the raspberry The round cake is red in color Is the cake Kyouko? No - you're - wrong I'm the apple Bebe likes the round cake Is the cake Mami? No - you're wrong I'm the cheese The round cake goes tumbling around Is the cake Akemi-san? It's....wrong I'm the pumpkin The round cake is sweet Is the cake Madoka? No - you're - wrong I'm the melon Dividing melon brings sweet dreams And the dream tonight is a bitter one The one on top of the plate is the cat's dream It's round and thick so let's dig in!

Useful Links

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Fan Reacion

I remember reading something about how fans would be divided because of the ending, from an interview. does anyone know from which interview is that? and do we have any new articles about it? --Mutopis 12:25, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

the French interview. I believe I have a translation mirrored on the wiki somewhere. - Prima 12:42, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

I kinda feel grim for the future of this franchise -- with change for (forced) continuation's sake and all that(Urobochi might enjoy writing with new ideas to torture audiences nonethless, but it wouldn't be the case had the Director and Producer never came up with those ideas). If the new series or sequel ends so catastrophic such as the universe ends up being destroyed, it would make the series even LESS spectacular(in my opinion anyway), because space/time/universes are being so cheap nowadays 1.161.36.244 12:55, 30 October 2013 (UTC) An Outsider Audience

Translation (spoiler alert)

Homura and Madoka

Homura: I had a very scary dream.

Madoka: A scary dream?

Homura: In that dream Madoka went to a place far away, a place that I could never reach. I was the only one who remembered Madoka, I was lonely and in pain. However no else understood my feeling. In the end I doubted whether or not the Madoka I remembered ever existed in the first place or just that something I imagined.

Madoka: That is a very painful dream, however don't worry, i would never go away and leave you alone.

Homura: How can you be so certain?

Madoka: Because it's me. If that it's something that even Homura-chan started to cry about, I would never be able to endure it.

Homura: That is also something that is unbearable to you?

Madoka: That is right, Homura-chan Sayaka-chan, Mami-san, Kyouko-chan, papa, mama, Tatsuya and Hitomi-chan and the rest of the class, I don't want to part with any of you. Even if that is something I must do, I would not have the courage to go through when the time comes.

Homura: Ah... is that so.... are these your true feelings then? Then I was a fool to have misunderstood it. I should not have approved. I should have used every possible mean to stop you back then. Madoka... I know.. that you are kind to everyone and not afraid of making choices. When you feel that there is something that only you can do, you would not hesitate even if it means hurting yourself.

Madoka: Homura-chan?

Homura: As I thought... you didn't remember it. Once I thought you were just a mirage... a construct made by someone else. How else would I have been able to meet you again like this? But I know, you definitely are the real Madoka. I am really happy, to be able to speak to you again, to be able to feel your gentleness like this once more. Thank you, this is more than enough happiness for me. I need to go now, there are still much to be done.

Kyubey's Experiment

QB:Even though you shouldnt have wanted to know the truth, but you can't help but chase after it. Human curiosity is really illogical. Well, I have long thought that you would have found the answer, Akemi Homura.

Homura: Incubator, of course you are the one behind all this.

QB: The question is thus, where exactly is your life and soul located. Well, let me show you the answer. This is what is beyond the boundary of this fake Mitakihara, your condition in the real world.

Homura: How!!

QB: We created a barrier field surronding your soul gem that prevented all intereference from outside. What will happen when we seal off a soul gem that is darkened to the limit?

Homura: An experiment.....

QB: When we isolate it from the power that purifies and ascends magic girls, the power that you called 'laws of cycle' then what will happen to the soul gem? The resulting observation is indeed rather fascinating. An isolated dimension was formed with its own independent law that seeks to guide and capture victims from the outside... This match what you have previously explained, the power of a 'witch'. So long as you are protected by the isolation field, then you would not become a full 'witch'. Like a chick who grew up within its own shell. That is why you formed a labryinth within. It's quite shocking that it is fully capable of replicating and reproducing an entire city. This place we are at right now, is a world existing solely within your own soul gem.

Homura: That is quite a strange logic, if it's isolated from the outside world. Then it should not possible for someone to enter the labyrinth.

QB: That is due to our adjustment. The isolation field will only stop interference from one direction. Even though it will reject all attempts from the outside, it is still possible to guide a victim in from the inside. Only targets that your witch side unconsciously seeks will enter this world. After such limitation, if the force known as 'law of cycle' seeks to contact Akemi Homura still. Then the only way it will enter is through being captured by the labyrinth as a victim and be forced to materialize in this world. In that case, us Incubator will then finally be able to ascertain the puzzle behind magic girl's disappearance, and observe it directly. In fact, the characters that existed in the real world already joined in strange ways. What is more fascinating, a girl that neither existed in past memory nor future possibility, someone who should have no connection, no cause or effect to this world, joined seemlessly in your world. Well, there was never any need to search, from the begining you have made things easier for us, Akemi Homura. Even before this all started, you have always called the 'law of cycles' by the name of Kaname Madoka.

Homura: Then she is really..

QB: The only troublesome point was that, it does not appear that Kaname Madoka possess any unique power. It seems that the memory control effect produced by the labryinth is effective even against Madoka. Not only has she forgot the purpose of providing salvation to you, she even forgot her true identity and power. As such we had no way of progression.

QB: Kaname Madoka forgot her identity as goddess, Akemi Homura forgot her identity as 'witch'. Due to this circumstance we are forced to run around in circle meaninglessly. Well, even though we were intending on waiting for the chick to break its shell, but since now that you have come to the truth, it should make things easier to upset the status quo. Now then Akemi Homura, just seek the help of Madoka, that way she will remember her own identiy, and the reason why she came here.

Homura: Incubator, what is your goal?

QB: Of course it's to observe the force,'law of cycle', that is only a theory up till now.

Homura: Why? For beings who speak of mere curiosity as illogical, why would you go through the trouble of setting up all this to merely ascertain an existence? No, what you seek is to control Madoka!

QB: I wont deny that was our final goal. Well this is a difficult road in itself. The occurence itself is a puzzle to us completely, an existence that can not be ascertained is truly difficult to handle.

Homura: It would not be you to give up so easily.

QB: That is correct, if it can be observed , then it can be interfered with. If It can be interefered with, then it can be controled. One day we will be able to fully strip the power of 'law of cycles'. That way Magic girl will become witches once again, energy collection on a higher level then can be expected. The conversion of energy from hope to despair will be of a level beyond our expectation thus far. There truly exists infinite possibility within magic girls. From the process of you turning into witches, its value will then be shown.

Homura: tsk