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:::::::The Witch crashed into the ground, creating the very large hole you see. Homura stopped time and placed the explosives. Time was then unstopped and that's why the explosives only activated a few seconds AFTER the Witch crashed into the ground. They're 'proximity mines' by the way. Anything that crosses the sight/lens sets them off. They're called 'Claymore' proximity mines.
 
:::::::The Witch crashed into the ground, creating the very large hole you see. Homura stopped time and placed the explosives. Time was then unstopped and that's why the explosives only activated a few seconds AFTER the Witch crashed into the ground. They're 'proximity mines' by the way. Anything that crosses the sight/lens sets them off. They're called 'Claymore' proximity mines.
 
::::::::Those are ''absolutely not'' [[wikipedia:M18A1_Claymore_Antipersonnel_Mine|claymores]]. The explosives used were definitely of high yield: Claymores are fragment mines, they produce a small explosion, what kills is the high-speed ball bearings inside it. Hence why it's an anti-personal mine, poor against armor, and thus completely inadequate to use against Walpurgis, which apparently can take more fire than the Kremlin. <br>I can't say for sure, but my best bet is that it's [[wikipedia:C4|C4]]. The light matches common C4 detonators, and being a plastic explosive, it's easy to shape the charges into blocks to fill any given area, and attach them to a surface, unlike solid explosives. As for the trigger, I'd be willing to bet it was remotely detonated: not point in placing down all those explosives if some poor idiot walked into the building by accident. And the explosives were definitely pre-placed: there's not enough time sand in the world to place them in the middle of battle. <br>Momoism, you're right about the industrial area. That should be some sort of large warehouse, then: the roof above surface, but the floor below. [[User:BrickBreak|BrickBreak]] 16:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 
::::::::Those are ''absolutely not'' [[wikipedia:M18A1_Claymore_Antipersonnel_Mine|claymores]]. The explosives used were definitely of high yield: Claymores are fragment mines, they produce a small explosion, what kills is the high-speed ball bearings inside it. Hence why it's an anti-personal mine, poor against armor, and thus completely inadequate to use against Walpurgis, which apparently can take more fire than the Kremlin. <br>I can't say for sure, but my best bet is that it's [[wikipedia:C4|C4]]. The light matches common C4 detonators, and being a plastic explosive, it's easy to shape the charges into blocks to fill any given area, and attach them to a surface, unlike solid explosives. As for the trigger, I'd be willing to bet it was remotely detonated: not point in placing down all those explosives if some poor idiot walked into the building by accident. And the explosives were definitely pre-placed: there's not enough time sand in the world to place them in the middle of battle. <br>Momoism, you're right about the industrial area. That should be some sort of large warehouse, then: the roof above surface, but the floor below. [[User:BrickBreak|BrickBreak]] 16:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
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:::::::::Who says she manually placed them, or even placed them before the fight? Her magic can very clearly deploy large amounts of weapons over an area, so why not in a preset configuration? More importantly, those do look like Claymores, and there ARE brands of Claymore that aren't fragmentation based. That said, for her to not have had placed them in advance, would require her to have known the fighting would make Walpurgis Night crash at that exact location. Sure, it's possible she could have... but that's a far stretch compared to them just being placed on the spot.
 
I just wanted to say that I think Mami's weapon looks like a muzzle loader, not a breechloader.  That would make it a rifled musket, not a rifle. [[Special:Contributions/72.77.96.152|72.77.96.152]] 03:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)Carrie
 
I just wanted to say that I think Mami's weapon looks like a muzzle loader, not a breechloader.  That would make it a rifled musket, not a rifle. [[Special:Contributions/72.77.96.152|72.77.96.152]] 03:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)Carrie
 
:Thank you. Classic firearms are not my speciality :/ [[User:BrickBreak|BrickBreak]] 16:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 
:Thank you. Classic firearms are not my speciality :/ [[User:BrickBreak|BrickBreak]] 16:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Revision as of 17:20, 29 April 2011

Creating in the same style as the locations page. jbw 18:47, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Existing work available here for reference. Prima 18:10, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks i'll use this to get the names down quickly and i'll add new images as i re-watch it on Bluray.
Oh how could I not see this page. I'm your man, leave it to me. BrickBreak 22:16, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
I'll take care of all firearms for now, but should we include other kinds of weaponry? BrickBreak 22:43, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Speaking of "other kinds of weaponry:" is it just me, or did Homura actually use a nuclear reactor against Walpurgis Night in Episode 11? Should that be included on this page? Momoism 00:39, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
A nuclear reactor? If you're talking about Homura's final attack, that was some sort of stadium or dome lined with explosives, I think. Sure the explosion looked gargantuan, but I'll say it again: stadium lined with explosives. Mushroom clouds and ungodly explosions aren't nuclear exclusive, any large explosion will do it: it's just very rare to see a non-nuclear explosion that strong. The most usual example is a thermobaric weapon. BrickBreak 00:58, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Considering that Homura was fighting Walpurgis in what was definitely an industrial area, we can be pretty sure that it wasn't a stadium. On watching that scene again, though, it looks almost like Walpurgis fell into something like a giant trap pit that Homura lined with rectangular bombs: there seem to be buildings along its perimeter, and the perspective suggests that the witch is below ground level rather than surrounded by high walls. How could she have set that up, though? Momoism 02:58, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
The Witch crashed into the ground, creating the very large hole you see. Homura stopped time and placed the explosives. Time was then unstopped and that's why the explosives only activated a few seconds AFTER the Witch crashed into the ground. They're 'proximity mines' by the way. Anything that crosses the sight/lens sets them off. They're called 'Claymore' proximity mines.
Those are absolutely not claymores. The explosives used were definitely of high yield: Claymores are fragment mines, they produce a small explosion, what kills is the high-speed ball bearings inside it. Hence why it's an anti-personal mine, poor against armor, and thus completely inadequate to use against Walpurgis, which apparently can take more fire than the Kremlin.
I can't say for sure, but my best bet is that it's C4. The light matches common C4 detonators, and being a plastic explosive, it's easy to shape the charges into blocks to fill any given area, and attach them to a surface, unlike solid explosives. As for the trigger, I'd be willing to bet it was remotely detonated: not point in placing down all those explosives if some poor idiot walked into the building by accident. And the explosives were definitely pre-placed: there's not enough time sand in the world to place them in the middle of battle.
Momoism, you're right about the industrial area. That should be some sort of large warehouse, then: the roof above surface, but the floor below. BrickBreak 16:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Who says she manually placed them, or even placed them before the fight? Her magic can very clearly deploy large amounts of weapons over an area, so why not in a preset configuration? More importantly, those do look like Claymores, and there ARE brands of Claymore that aren't fragmentation based. That said, for her to not have had placed them in advance, would require her to have known the fighting would make Walpurgis Night crash at that exact location. Sure, it's possible she could have... but that's a far stretch compared to them just being placed on the spot.

I just wanted to say that I think Mami's weapon looks like a muzzle loader, not a breechloader. That would make it a rifled musket, not a rifle. 72.77.96.152 03:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)Carrie

Thank you. Classic firearms are not my speciality :/ BrickBreak 16:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)