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I'm super amazed by your work on the Madoka Magica Mobage page!! Thanks for all your additions! Though I was wondering if you would be able to find out during what events the Cell witch and Diva witch were added! Thanks! [[User:DreamerWitches|DreamerWitches]] ([[User talk:DreamerWitches|talk]]) 10:26, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm super amazed by your work on the Madoka Magica Mobage page!! Thanks for all your additions! Though I was wondering if you would be able to find out during what events the Cell witch and Diva witch were added! Thanks! [[User:DreamerWitches|DreamerWitches]] ([[User talk:DreamerWitches|talk]]) 10:26, 22 December 2020 (UTC)


Thank you! Sadly there doesn't seem to be much info on them. Here's what I know:
Okay, so I made a big post gathering evidence, which you can still check in the history... And then I realized none of it mattered, because I'd missed one crucial fact: There are seven more episodes than the wiki article says, and all the event witches appear there. All our screenshots of the fights are from this video, so there's no way to use them as a way to gauge when the witches were introduced.
1) [https://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E4%BD%BF%E3%81%84%E9%AD%94%28%E9%AD%94%E6%B3%95%E5%B0%91%E5%A5%B3%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A9%E3%81%8B%E2%98%86%E3%83%9E%E3%82%AE%E3%82%AB%29 Pixiv] says that the minions of the frog, cell, diva and dream witches debuted, respectively, on chapters 37, 39, 41 and 43. I've honestly got no idea what 'chapter' means here. The main story only has 37 chapters (and we're looking for event exclusive witches), there are only 19 events, and if you count each individual chapter of the events you'll get to 37 way before the summer event. My best guess is that they're counting according to release dates (so if main story chapters 1-9 come out at launch, the first event is chapter 10), but since I can't find the release dates for the main story it's impossible to confirm. Anyways, this does suggest an order to their releases at least, and it matches the order in which I've seen the event witches listed elsewhere, but...


2) The few pictures we have of the cell witch battling have the marriage version of Mami fighting. This means the earliest possible date for it would be while the marriage event was running, which was just before the Tanabata one happened. Therefore, either both the cell and diva witches were released in the same event, the dates are wrong, or the diva witch was not released between the cell and dream witches.
I checked some old 4chan threads (or at least some Japanese site that seems similar) and while there are mentions of the frog and dream within the expected dates for their events (though apparently the frog witch's familairs, at least, were also out in the main story by then), but no such thing for the diva and cell witches. Perhaps they never appeared in events? But it's hard to prove it one way or another.
(Incidentally, the player's team in the diva witch's screenshot would place it between the Hanagusami and summer camp events at the earliest)


3)[https://geromi.hatenadiary.org/entry/20120121/1327072492 This post] shows promotional pictures of the diva and frog witches as early as January. The fact that their pictures were finished this early means that we can't assume that they were the first two released, since
(Also, I started this post on a pretty bitter note, but thank you for appreciating my effort. I honestly wasn't sure if anybody cared about Mobage anymore)--[[User:AlsoArei|AlsoArei]] ([[User talk:AlsoArei|talk]]) 06:32, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
it's likely the other witches were done long before their releases dates too, but it could be circumstancial evidence.


Overall, there's nothing definitive but it seems likely that the event witches were released very close to each other, from roughly May to July 2012. There are only three events between Summer Camp and Tanabata, two whose stories we have access to, so I thought we could deduce which ones debuted a witch by seeing if there was one featured in the story mode. But I searched Summer Camp's story for "witch" and "magic" and nothing turned up, so it's unlikely there's a relation between gameplay and story. --[[User:AlsoArei|AlsoArei]] ([[User talk:AlsoArei|talk]]) 22:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
:Ah, I see, it's difficult then... gathering Mobage info is the hardest thing ever XD I really love Mobage, mostly for the witches but also cause there's little info on it and I want it to be uncovered! Thank you for your work!! ^^ [[User:DreamerWitches|DreamerWitches]] ([[User talk:DreamerWitches|talk]]) 10:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 
== Soul gems ==
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Thank you for adding information on the Soulgems page, but can you help me? In general, I have a lot of photos with soul gems, but little time for editing. In general, where can I contact you?
My talk page is fine. If I'm understanding you right, you want to give me the images and I edit them in? I don't mind the idea, but it depends on how much "a lot" is. Are you planning to add the soul gem of every Magia Record girl? Because I don't think the page can handle it (plus for those for whom we only know their transformed gems, we already note where they are on their pages so I don't think there's any need to add them). --[[User:AlsoArei|AlsoArei]] ([[User talk:AlsoArei|talk]]) 20:16, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
No no no, i meant Tart girls
 
Then sure. Feel free to post the images in my page and I'll add them later.--[[User:AlsoArei|AlsoArei]] ([[User talk:AlsoArei|talk]]) 20:53, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Like here?
[[File:riz_gem_cropped.png|150px]]
 
Yes--[[User:AlsoArei|AlsoArei]] ([[User talk:AlsoArei|talk]]) 21:31, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

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Where did you find the extra info for some of the Mobage witches?! I'm intruiged!! :D DreamerWitches (talk) 09:52, 29 November 2020 (UTC) The info on the giraffe witch comes from a comment by Kyubey on Mobage's main story. I assume the bird witch's is also from there, although I couldn't find it myself after some skimming. I found both on a-nima's blog and also a Japanese Madoka wiki. (Also, fun fact about the giraffe witch: lots of people speculate that her design is based around the Japanese idiom of "stretching your neck", meaning to wait eagerly. Like, she waited for so long that her neck got as long as a giraffe's.)

I've been wondering myself, where did you find the Madogatari images? I tried reverse google search but nothing showed up, not even your blog.

Also, good news, I found somebody willing to translate the Madogatari content! Stellar Canopy actually had thought of it already and had most of it done. I'm planning on adding it to the wiki over the next few days, but I thought I'd share a sneak peek: https://pastebin.com/sP0gqFgF Feel free to edit it in youself if you want to. I still have to figure how to color text and add footnotes...--AlsoArei (talk) 21:11, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Ohh! I see! That's great that we at least have some info on the Mobage witches!! It took a lot of time to find those images... I found it on this website https://www.4gamer.net/games/266/G026651/20160926088/ there's an image of a big wall of witch art and I had to zoom in on photoshop to find everything. And I'm super glad they're translating the stuff!!! ^^ Can't wait for it all to be done!!!! DreamerWitches (talk) 09:43, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Mobage page

I'm super amazed by your work on the Madoka Magica Mobage page!! Thanks for all your additions! Though I was wondering if you would be able to find out during what events the Cell witch and Diva witch were added! Thanks! DreamerWitches (talk) 10:26, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Okay, so I made a big post gathering evidence, which you can still check in the history... And then I realized none of it mattered, because I'd missed one crucial fact: There are seven more episodes than the wiki article says, and all the event witches appear there. All our screenshots of the fights are from this video, so there's no way to use them as a way to gauge when the witches were introduced.

I checked some old 4chan threads (or at least some Japanese site that seems similar) and while there are mentions of the frog and dream within the expected dates for their events (though apparently the frog witch's familairs, at least, were also out in the main story by then), but no such thing for the diva and cell witches. Perhaps they never appeared in events? But it's hard to prove it one way or another.

(Also, I started this post on a pretty bitter note, but thank you for appreciating my effort. I honestly wasn't sure if anybody cared about Mobage anymore)--AlsoArei (talk) 06:32, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Ah, I see, it's difficult then... gathering Mobage info is the hardest thing ever XD I really love Mobage, mostly for the witches but also cause there's little info on it and I want it to be uncovered! Thank you for your work!! ^^ DreamerWitches (talk) 10:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Soul gems

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Thank you for adding information on the Soulgems page, but can you help me? In general, I have a lot of photos with soul gems, but little time for editing. In general, where can I contact you? My talk page is fine. If I'm understanding you right, you want to give me the images and I edit them in? I don't mind the idea, but it depends on how much "a lot" is. Are you planning to add the soul gem of every Magia Record girl? Because I don't think the page can handle it (plus for those for whom we only know their transformed gems, we already note where they are on their pages so I don't think there's any need to add them). --AlsoArei (talk) 20:16, 18 January 2021 (UTC) No no no, i meant Tart girls

Then sure. Feel free to post the images in my page and I'll add them later.--AlsoArei (talk) 20:53, 18 January 2021 (UTC) Like here? Riz gem cropped.png

Yes--AlsoArei (talk) 21:31, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

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