User talk:Homerun-chan/Main Menu Redesign

Moving discussion of redesign here from the other page. I'd suggest not grouping light novel in with manga. Because we have other official books. See here: [1]. You can change the naming convention there to all be Puella Magica if you want and make it NitroPlus Light Novel instead of Novel. --randomanon 19:43, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Actually, at first the novel was a first-level item (just like Manga and Anime), but it just didn't look good, so I grouped it together with manga because "that's something with pages and stuff, yo". We can put it somewhere else (if it really belongs in this menu), but I don't really understand what you suggested. In the meantime, I tried to make a "books" section but then having a single item in the list looks a bit lonely ... --Homerun-chan 20:06, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Well tbh, I'm not sure by what criteria items are chosen to be lifted up to menu status. At the link I showed, there's also a comic anthology and a fan guidebook. They're all official books sponsored by Magica Quartet. You can leave out the fan guidebook since it's more like the magazine on background info on the anime, but the comic anthology will have Ume Aoki illustrations and doujin contributions by hanokage and other guests. It's probably similar to a spinoff manga where it will stay mostly consistent to canon but many would not consider it canon. The other option is just leave off the novel for now. It's not even out yet and it likely won't get translated for a long time. Feel strange to have something on the main menu that we won't have more than a blurb about. --randomanon 20:26, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

How about having a separate 'Official Guides and Books' bullet point and just linking it to this? Then everything would be included. It seems worthwhile for people to at least know from the start that there is an official novel, even if it might not get a translation. On the other hand, Randomanon pointed out on the other page that the anime section would most likely expand at some point. Taking that into consideration, we could make an 'Other' section for the novel and anything else that may appear, like any potential official game or whatever else they might decide to come up with. --Knon 04:17, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you both for your input. I don't think the other two books are important enough to be linked from the main page, so making a "Books" section might be a bit too much. Also, I've been thinking: at the time being, the main reason there's a link to the novel is to "advertise" it. Wouldn't it be better then to just use the announcement box when it gets released? We could then link the page later if it grows enough and the novel proves to be popular. What do you think? --Homerun-chan 19:02, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

That sounds fine to me. I agree the novel isn't important enough yet to be directly linked. --randomanon 03:57, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Separate topic, I've been slowly putting together drafts for a FAQ page and news page I was planning on putting on the wiki in the next week or so. Just something to think about when you're considering the design. Also in the near future planning on doing a Otakon Madoka premiere page and a Measures of Madoka Popularity page. Both I think will be fairly interesting and popular with fans. --randomanon 04:33, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

How about linking to News and FAQ from the abstract, like what I've done here? (I'm not sure how to formulate the sentence though, I'll have to give it a thought). They're pretty much wiki-related (well, maybe not the news page, but the other pages are) so I don't think they should appear in the actual menu. The other two pages you're talking about are welcome here, and won't be a design issue (Otakon would go into Events and venues, Madoka popularity should get its own section in Articles, along with the sales analysis and Literature on Madoka) --Homerun-chan 19:02, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

The news and FAQ I'd have in mind are Madoka-content related. Seems like every week there's something eventful that happens with Madoka that isn't on the wiki and is best categorized as "News." Example, the Aniplex US premiere of Madoka. FAQ would have to do with commonly asked questions about Madoka, similar to what the Japanese wiki has. --randomanon 03:57, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm okay with putting the FAQ in the left column. However, I still don't think the News page should be in the menu itself. It's not really about the content of the franchise per se, but it's not about derived content either. How about either leaving it as a link in the abstract, or using a "news box" with the latest news and a link to the "news" page? (a bit like our current announcement box, but less intrusive) --Homerun-chan 10:30, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I'm fine with anything design-wise, I just wanted to let you know what I had in mind coming up so you can plan where you might want to put things, and also to clarify the meaning of what those pages were which is different than the existing news and FAQ pages. --randomanon 13:04, 30 July 2011 (UTC)