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Goofy Observation

I don't even know, I'm just uploading these in case they suddenly become relevant.

About Kazumi's story section

By all means, do hack and slash it. There is no way I can build a proper section when I'm making one-chapter summaries of that size. :/ --BrickBreak 00:20, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

The problem is I also suck at hacking and slashing. Have you seen the summaries on the Kazumi Magica page? I wrote those. --Universalperson 02:56, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: Oriko predicting Walpurgis

I'm sorry, but it's speculation based on incorrect information, and there's no real way that I can see to correct it. How are you going to fix it when it's based on the idea that Oriko predicted Walpurgis instead of Gretchen, which goes directly against canon? --CrownClown 20:12, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

  • I specifically mention PRIOR timelines, particularly Timeline 1, where Gretchen did not exist. It is entirely possible that Oriko contracted in Timeline 1, with the same powers. --Universalperson 20:15, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
    • Sorry, it's not very clear in the way it's worded on the page. But even despite that, the possibility of Gretchen existing and being a bigger threat is still there, because Madoka exists and can and does contract in nearly every timeline. I mean, she didn't contract in the Oriko timeline, but Oriko still saw Gretchen. :/ --CrownClown 20:19, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
      • True enough - but then again that was entirely because of Oriko's actions. Oriko's future sight seems to be something like "this will happen if I do nothing" - and there's no reason to believe Oriko did anything to Madoka in Timeline 1. (Then again, there's no reason to believe Oriko even exists in Timeline 1). To me, it's just a very neat explanation about that apparent plot hole in Episode 10/Drama CD 1. Mami and Madoka seem to have advance knowledge of Walpurgis coming to Mitakihara when there's no apparent reason for them to know that Walpurgis is coming to Mitakihara (note Kyoko's reaction when Homura tells her that Walpurgis is coming to Mitakihara). Then in Oriko we find that there's a magical girl that can see the future. Suddenly there's a source of advance knowledge. --Universalperson 20:30, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
        • Wait, I thought that Mami and Madoka didn't know about Walpurgis-- they just fought it when it arrived, didn't they? I don't remember any kind of line that implied they knew. Kyoko knew about the existance of Walpurgis, but not when it would appear, so even if they did know about it, they probably didn't know it would be coming to their city. Besides, Oriko and Kirika were irregularities, so it's really doubtful they contracted in any other timeline. --CrownClown 20:36, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
          • I don't have the exact line, but in Episode 10 Mami says something along the lines of Madoka has a long way to go before she can take on the Walpurgis Night. Then in Drama CD 1 Madoka warns Homura about staying inside when a storm comes. It really seems like they knew Walpurgis was coming to Mitakihara in advance. --Universalperson 20:42, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
            • Hmm, I guess that makes sense. But considering how Homura hadn't met Oriko is any other timeline (implied or otherwise), I find it doubtful that they'd know from her. Homura would have met her in the subsequent timelines when she was part of their team. As Homura said, the timeline was an irregularity, so I don't think she contracted in the other timelines. I'll just add a disclaimer to the page noting that it's unlikely, then. --CrownClown 20:46, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
            • How they knew, it clearly never says, but doesnt mean they got the information from some other source. As indicated by CrownClown. Also, if a Walpurgist Night event has happened in the past, then it is possible they knew when it would happen but they wouldnt know where, perhaps all Puellae Magi dread the date and get ready for the event, like hurricane season, when it happens. --Mutopis 21:20, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
            • I heard the Drama CD again, Mami says Madoka needs to train when Walpurgis Night comes, However, it could be interpreted when the period of Walpurgis Night is predicted to come if it arrives to their city. It is possible they are just getting prepared for it just in case, again as Kyoko said in the Drama CD, a Walpurgis Night event has never arrived to Mitakihara before, but doesnt mean one should not be prepared for it. Not to Mention that Mami being the responsible type, it is possible she was just getting Madoka ready just in case it came to their town. Again, this is speculation but doesnt mean that Oriko is one possible explanation and as CrownClown explained I have my doubts she was the only source of it. --Mutopis 21:33, 15 September 2011 (UTC)