Speculah:Grief Seeds

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Soul gem grief seed sketch.jpg

This page lists information and speculation about the grief seeds that appear in each episode of the anime and chapter of the different manga spinoffs.

Contents

[edit] By episode

[edit] Episode 2

Fanart Soul Gem.jpg

Gertrud's Grief Seed. Gertrud's Grief Seed.

The Grief Seed that Mami obtained from Gertrud.

  • Top emblem: Butterfly
  • Bottom emblem:Rose
  • Battles: Mami
  • Possession: Kyubey (presumed)
  • Used by: Mami

[edit] Episode 3

Charlotte's grief seed on the hospital wall. Charlotte's Grief Seed.

The Grief Seed found embedded in a hospital wall.

  • Top emblem: Strawberry
  • Bottom emblem: Charlotte's head
  • Battles: Mami, Homura
  • Possession: Homura
  • Used by: Unknown

[edit] Episode 4

Elly's Grief Seed Elly's Grief Seed.

Elly's Grief Seed, not originally seen in the episode. It was added in the AT-X rebroadcast.

  • Top emblem: Wing
  • Bottom emblem: Monitor
  • Battles: Sayaka
  • Possession: Unknown
  • Used by: Sayaka

[edit] Episode 6

Elly's grief seed speculah Elly's Grief Seed.

Initially speculated to be Elly's grief seed, which was proven true as it was added to the revised Episode 4.

  • Top emblem: Wing
  • Bottom emblem: Monitor
  • Battles: Sayaka
  • Possession: Kyubey
  • Used by: Sayaka

[edit] Episode 8

Elsa grief seed.jpg Elsa Maria's Grief Seed.

After defeating Elsa Maria, Sayaka gives this Grief Seed to Kyoko as repayment for her assistance.

  • Top emblem: Crown
  • Bottom emblem: Blank
  • Battles: Sayaka, Kyoko
  • Possession: Kyoko
  • Used by: none (presumed)


The grief seed Homura gives to Sayaka. The witch of the Netherlands's Grief Seed.

The Grief Seed Homura gives to Sayaka, who refused it. According to this design document, it belongs to the "witch of the Netherlands (オランダの魔女)".

  • Top emblem: Tulip
  • Bottom emblem: Windmill
  • Battles: Homura (presumed)
  • Possession: Homura
  • Used by: none (presumed)


Sayaka's soul gem transforming into a grief seed. Oktavia von Seckendorff's Grief Seed.

Sayaka's Grief Seed, immediately after exploding.

  • Top emblem: Music note
  • Bottom emblem: Music note
  • Battles: Kyoko in Episode 9
  • Possession: Unknown (no Grief Seed was dropped after defeat)
  • Used by: none (presumed)

[edit] Episode 10

Fanmade jewelry of a Soul Gem and Grief Seed

The Grief Seed may be Sayaka's Oktavia's Grief Seed.

Sayaka's Grief Seed from the third timeline.

  • Top emblem: Music note
  • Bottom emblem: Music note
  • Battles: Homura, Madoka, Mami, Kyoko
  • Possession: Madoka
  • Used by: Homura

Madoka-grief-seed.png Kriemhild Gretchen's Grief Seed.

Madoka's Grief Seed, the cutest Grief Seed ever.

  • Top emblem: Teardrop with ribbons
  • Bottom emblem: Comet
  • Battles: none
  • Possession: none
  • Used by: none

[edit] Episode 11

Homura grief seed.png Homura's Grief Seed.

Shown in Kyubey's speech about how Homura would drown in despair, if she ever lost hope.

  • Top emblem: Diamond
  • Bottom emblem: Hourglass/Record
  • Battles: none
  • Possession: none
  • Used by: none

[edit] Episode 12

Soul Gem and Grief Seed Cubic Form.png "Grief Seeds" in cubic form taken from "Demons."

The Grief Seeds take a cubic form in Episode 12. It is not known if they are still called Grief Seeds or if they have a different name (Grief Cubes?).

  • Emblems: none
  • Battles: Homura, Kyoko, Mami, Sayaka
  • Possession: Homura
  • Used by: Homura

[edit] Mami's Heart-Pounding Tiro Finale

Ophelia grief seed.jpg Ophelia's Grief Seed, from Mami's Heart-Pounding Tiro Finale

  • Top emblem: Eye
  • Bottom emblem: Eye
  • Battles: Homura
  • Possession: Homura (presumed)
  • Used by: none

[edit] Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable

Albertine grief seed.png Albertine's Grief Seed, from Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable

  • Top emblem: Star
  • Bottom emblem: Flower
  • Battles: Varies
  • Possession: Varies
  • Used by: Varies

Gisela grief seed.png Gisela's Grief Seed, from Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable

  • Top emblem: Handlebars
  • Bottom emblem: Grille
  • Battles: Mami or Kyouko
  • Possession: Mami or Kyouko
  • Used by: Varies

Izabel grief seed.png Izabel's Grief Seed, from Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable

  • Top emblem: Trophy
  • Bottom emblem: Archway
  • Battles: Mami and Madoka or Kyouko and Sayaka
  • Possession: Mami and Madoka or Kyouko and Sayaka
  • Used by: Varies

Patricia grief seed.PNG Patricia's Grief Seed, from Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable

  • Top emblem: Cherry blossom
  • Bottom emblem: Spider eyes
  • Battles: Mami, Madoka and Homura
  • Possession: Mami, Madoka and Homura
  • Used by: Varies

Candeloro grief seed.png Candeloro's Grief Seed, from Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable

  • Top emblem: Flower
  • Bottom emblem: Flower
  • Battles: Madoka and Homura
  • Possession: Madoka and Homura
  • Used by: Varies

Ophelia grief seed PSP.png Ophelia's Grief Seed, from Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable

  • Top emblem: Eye
  • Bottom emblem: Eye
  • Battles: Homura
  • Possession: Homura
  • Used by: Varies

Walpurgisnacht grief seed.PNG Walpurgis Night's Grief Seed, from Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable

  • Top emblem: Gear
  • Bottom emblem: Gear
  • Battles: Varies
  • Possession: Varies
  • Used by: Varies

[edit] Oriko Magica, chapter 1

Flower witch grief seed.JPG The witch of flowers' Grief Seed.

Presumably the Grief Seed of the flower witch that attacked Yuma.

  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Battles: Kyoko
  • Possession: Kyoko
  • Used by: none (presumed)

[edit] Oriko Magica, chapter 2

Cecil grief seed.JPG Cecil's Grief Seed.

The Grief Seed of the Taste Witch that Kyoko battled.

  • Top emblem: Rosary
  • Bottom emblem: Cherry petals
  • Battles: Kyoko
  • Possession: Kyoko
  • Used by: Kyoko (presumed)

[edit] Oriko Magica, chapter 5

Kirika grief seed.JPG Margot's Grief Seed.

The outline of Kirika's Grief Seed, visible within her Soul Gem prior to becoming a witch.

  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Battles: Kyoko, Mami, Yuma, Homura
  • Possession: none
  • Used by: none (presumed)

[edit] Kazumi Magica, Chapter 4

PrologueGriefSeed.png Prologue's Grief Seed.

The bookmobile witch's Grief Seed, given to Jubey by the Pleiades.

  • Top emblem: Oval
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown (compass points?)
  • Battles: The Pleiades Saints
  • Possession: Jubey
  • Used by: none

[edit] Kazumi Magica, chapter 5

AiriGriefSeed.png Nie Blühen Herzen's Grief Seed.

"Yuuri", aka Airi's, Grief Seed.

  • Top emblem: Flower (?)
  • Bottom emblem: Flower (?)
  • Battles: The Pleiades Saints
  • Possession: The Pleiades Saints, Jubey (presumed)
  • Used by: none (presumed)

[edit] Kazumi Magica, chapter 9

KazumiChapter9GriefSeed.png Niko Kanna's Grief Seed.

  • Top emblem: Diamond/Square
  • Bottom emblem: Diamond/Square
  • Battles: The Pleiades Saints
  • Possession: The Pleiades Saints, Jubey (presumed)
  • Used by: none (presumed)

[edit] Kazumi Magica, chapter 15

Satomi grief seed.PNG Satomi Usagi's Grief Seed.

  • Top emblem: Bat wing
  • Bottom emblem: Bat wing
  • Battles: Kazumi
  • Possession: The Pleiades Saints, Jubey (presumed)
  • Used by: none (presumed)

[edit] Kazumi Magica, chapter 18

Chapter 18 grief seed.pngKazumiChapter19GriefSeed.png Saki Asami's Grief Seed.

  • Top emblem: Lily-of-the-valley
  • Bottom emblem: Lily-of-the-valley
  • Battles: Kanna Hijiri and other witches
  • Possession: Umika, Saki and Kazumi
  • Used by: Kazumi

[edit] Kazumi Magica, chapter 19

KazumiChapter19GriefSeedPart2.png The Souju's Grief Seeds

  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Battles: Umika and Kaoru
  • Possession: No one (presumed)
  • Used by: No one (presumed)

[edit] Kazumi Magica, chapter 22

MichiruGS.jpg Michiru's Grief Seed

  • Top emblem: Spiral
  • Bottom emblem: Spiral
  • Battles: Pleiades Saints
  • Possession: Kazumi
  • Used by: Umika and Kaoru

[edit] Soul Gems

This is a compilation of every magical girl's soul gems' emblems and their locations. Soul gems come in three forms: the gem form, the ring form (though it is sometimes not a ring, but a hairpin, earring, or other piece of jewelery), and the transformation form, the shape of which is unique to each individual girl and gem.

Note that soul gem and grief seed are not English translations of Japanese words, but the actual English words spoken in the anime. Therefore, it's possible that it was intentionally chosen, and not merely coincidental, for the initials of grief seed (GS) to be the reverse of soul gem (SG). If so, it would appropriately reflect the role reversal that occurs when magical girls turn into witches.

[edit] Mami Tomoe

MamiGem.png

  • Top emblem: Flower
  • Bottom emblem: Flower
  • Shape when transformed: Flower
  • Location: Hairpin on right side of head

[edit] Sayaka Miki

SayakaGem.png

  • Top emblem: Musical note
  • Bottom emblem: Musical note
  • Shape when transformed: Musical note
  • Location: Navel

[edit] Homura Akemi

Homura soul gem.pngHomuraSoulGemTransformed.png

  • Top emblem: Diamond
  • Bottom emblem: Diamond
  • Shape when transformed: Diamond
  • Location: Left hand

[edit] Kyoko Sakura

KyoukoSoulGemVarious.png

  • Top emblem: Oval
  • Bottom emblem: Oval
  • Shape when transformed: Oval
  • Location: Upper chest

[edit] Madoka Kaname

MadokaSoulGem.png

  • Top emblem: Teardrop
  • Bottom emblem: Teardrop
  • Shape when transformed: Teardrop
  • Location: Upper chest

[edit] Nagisa Momoe

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  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Smiling candy
  • Location: Front and center of belt

[edit] Yuma Chitose

YumaSoulGemNeck.png

  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Sphere with cat ears
  • Location: Nape of neck

[edit] Oriko Mikuni

OrikoSoulGem.png

  • Top emblem: Diamond
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Oval
  • Location: Upper chest

[edit] Kirika Kure

Oriko gem.JPGKirika gem cropped.JPG

  • Top emblem: Ring
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown (shield?)
  • Shape when transformed: Diamond
  • Location: Lower back

[edit] Kazumi

J13 23.jpg Kazumi soul gem.JPG

  • Top emblem: Spiral
  • Bottom emblem: Spiral
  • Shape when transformed: Bell-like earring with spiral patterns
  • Location: Ear
  • Note: Kazumi's Soul Gem is artificially created, and is more of an altered Grief Seed.

[edit] Kaoru Maki

KaoruSoulGem.pngKaoruTransformedGem.png

  • Top emblem: Unknown (trophy?)
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown (trophy?)
  • Shape when transformed: Pentagon
  • Location: Right thigh

[edit] Umika Misaki

UmikaSoulGem.pngUmikaTransformedGem.png

  • Top emblem: Pen nib
  • Bottom emblem: Pen nib
  • Shape when transformed: Pen nib
  • Location: Forehead

[edit] Satomi Usagi

SatomiSoulGem.pngMJ13 20.jpg

  • Top emblem: Unknown (paw?)
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown (paw?)
  • Shape when transformed: Cat head
  • Location: Left side of the chest

[edit] Mirai Wakaba

MiraiWakabaSoulGem.png

  • Top emblem: Heart
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Heart
  • Location: Neck

[edit] Niko Kanna

Nico gem.JPG Nico gem neck.JPG

  • Top emblem: Hexagon
  • Bottom emblem: Hexagon
  • Shape when transformed: Hexagon
  • Location: Nape of neck

[edit] Saki Asami

Saki soul gem.JPG

  • Top emblem: Lily of the valley
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Lily of the valley
  • Location: Left hand

[edit] Yuuri Asuka

YuuriAsukaSoulGem.png

  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Oval
  • Location: Left shoulder

[edit] "Yuuri"

Airi soul gem.JPG

  • Top emblem: Flower (?)
  • Bottom emblem: Flower (?)
  • Shape when transformed: Oval
  • Location: Upper abdomen, below her chest

[edit] Akane Sumire

Akane soul gem.JPG

  • Top emblem: Tassel/Tiara (?)
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Tassel/Tiara (?)
  • Location: Navel

[edit] Ayase Souju

Ayase soul gem.JPG

  • Top emblem: Crescent moon with circle in it
  • Bottom emblem: Circle with crescent moon in it
  • Shape when transformed: Inverted shield (?)
  • Location: Left side of chest

[edit] Luca Souju

Luca gem.JPG

  • Top emblem: Circle with crescent moon in it
  • Bottom emblem: Crescent moon with circle in it
  • Shape when transformed: Shield (?)
  • Location: Right side of chest

[edit] Michiru Kazusa

Michiru Gem.jpg

  • Top emblem: Spiral
  • Bottom emblem: Spiral
  • Shape when transformed: Round shape
  • Location: Chest

[edit] Kanna Hijiri

Kanna soul gem.PNG

  • Top emblem: Twin hexagons
  • Bottom emblem: Twin hexagons
  • Shape when transformed: Twin hexagons
  • Location: Chest, under circular panel on outfit (decoy on back of her neck)

[edit] Kazumi (after second wish)

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  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Twin spirals
  • Location: Chest

[edit] Unnamed Tibetan girl

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  • Top emblem: Heart
  • Bottom emblem: Heart / inverted spade
  • Shape when transformed: Teardrop (?)
  • Location: Below neck, collar

[edit] Unnamed girl from the Savannah

SavannahGirlGem.png

  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Shield (?)
  • Location: Right arm, above elbow

[edit] Unnamed girl with bear

BearGirlGem.png

  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Bear head
  • Location: Hairpin on upper left side of head

[edit] Unnamed girl in purple

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  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Heart
  • Location: Center of chest, between the breasts

[edit] Unnamed Viking girl

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  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Crescent / Horn?
  • Location: Forehead

[edit] Unnamed girl in sailor uniform

Schoolgirloutfitgem.png

  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Unknown
  • Location: Unknown

[edit] Unnamed Afghan girl

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  • Top emblem: Diamond
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Unknown
  • Location: Unknown

[edit] Unnamed girl on train

Screen shot 2012-02-16 at 8.08.45 PM.jpg

  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Unknown
  • Shape when transformed: Unknown
  • Location: Unknown

[edit] Queen Himiko

Screen shot 2012-02-16 at 8.08.55 PM.jpg

  • Top emblem: Unknown
  • Bottom emblem: Seashell (?)
  • Shape when transformed: Unknown
  • Location: Unknown

[edit] Production Notes

[edit] PSP Game

[edit] Candy Straps

Strap versions of several Soul Gems and Grief Seeds were released for cell phones in Japan. A promo picture can be found at http://www.superhappycashcow.com/pic/2009%20New%20Figure/Puella%20Magi%20Madoka%20Magica/Soul%20Gem%20Strap%202/01.jpg. The above Soul Gems (from left to right) are tied to the Magical Girls underneath them. The Grief Seeds are Oktavia's, Charlotte's, Elly's and Elsa Maria's. The corrupted Soul Gems are Madoka's and Homura's, as evidenced by their placement, shape and the gem colours.

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