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: Ah, my bad. The deletion request also flagged the image and not just the redirect. There's no way to undelete an image so if you could please re-upload it I'd appreciate it. [[User:Sondenise|Sondenise]] ([[User talk:Sondenise|talk]]) 22:17, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
: Ah, my bad. The deletion request also flagged the image and not just the redirect. There's no way to undelete an image so if you could please re-upload it I'd appreciate it. [[User:Sondenise|Sondenise]] ([[User talk:Sondenise|talk]]) 22:17, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
:: I sort of thought that might be an issue, which is why I edited [[:Category:Deletion requests]] to mention it, but it looks like you either missed that or didn't understand what I meant. ~ [[User:Celtic Minstrel|Celtic Minstrel]] ([[User talk:Celtic Minstrel|talk]]) 22:45, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
:: I sort of thought that might be an issue, which is why I edited [[:Category:Deletion requests]] to mention it, but it looks like you either missed that or didn't understand what I meant. ~ [[User:Celtic Minstrel|Celtic Minstrel]] ([[User talk:Celtic Minstrel|talk]]) 22:45, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
== About the metro map ==
Is that a fan-made map or an official one?Cause in S1E2 there's a ground marking in Shinsē Center Station, the color used are different from the map.
Nevertheless, I'd like to know more about why the route goes this way lol.
Thank you for answering:)

Revision as of 16:35, 13 June 2022

Why was the page Mami's mammies deleted?

Hi there, I am not sure if this is the correct place to ask this. Sometimes I go to the Mami's mammies to grab some images to use or just to link to it as a joke in the /r/MadokaMagica Discord Server for newer people that don't know it exists. Except this time when I checked I saw that it was deleted by you, was there a specific reason for this? I, and others, thought it was quite a funny meme in the community so it would be a bit sad to see it go from the wiki after all these years.

Greetings,

Mhykol (you can also contact me on Discord: Mhykol Eclipsed#2024 or just in the MadokaMagica Discord server)

Hello there. While I personally find the page to also be amusing and mostly harmless, there was previous talk about deleting the page and recently when it was brought up again there was a 9-4 consensus in favor of deleting the page. Since I'm one of the admins, I was pinged and asked to delete the page. If you're interested in some of this discussion, it can be found on the talk page of the main page at the very bottom. Talk:Main_Page. Sondenise (talk) 15:17, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


Template:Ruby

Memoria cards

I was noticing some cases where a memoria card contains a particular character, but that character's page does not reference the memoria card, so I was thinking of going through to track down all such cases that I can find. However, before I can do that, I have a few questions...

  1. Is there some logic to how memoria cards are ordered on a character's page? Is it just alphabetical by name? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 20:50, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
    I try to sort them by alphabetical order. Sondenise (talk) 01:35, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. What's the best way to deal with alternate versions of characters, and dual units?
    Should a memoria featuring swimsuit Iroha be included on Iroha's main page?
    Should a memoria featuring Holy Mami be included on Mami's main page?
    Should a memoria featuring Rumour Tsuruno be featured on Tsuruno's main page?
    Should a memoria featuring Iroha-chan be featured on Iroha's main page?
    Should a memoria featuring Delivery Girl Felicia be featured on Felicia's main page?
    Should a memoria featuring Ultimate Madoka be featured on Madoka's main page?
    Should a memoria featuring doppel Kyouko be featured on Kyouko's main page?
    I imagine this is a complex question... my instinct would suggest the answer be "no" in the case of Iroha-chan or Ultimate Madoka but "yes" in most of the other cases. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 20:50, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
Originally I tended to leave the memoria unique to the alternate units on their respective page if only because some units have so many alts or are featured in so many memoria that it would really increase the page length. That said, maybe we should move their memorias to their own page or put it under a collapsible table to help cut down on the page length. If we do it like that, then I would agree that we should include their alt version memorias on their vanilla unit page with the exception of the PAPA units since those guys are basically their own universe and fairly self-contained. Sondenise (talk) 01:35, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Now that all the pages use the templates, making memoria lists be collapsed by default is simply a matter of editing the classes into Template:Magia Record Memoria Header, if that's desired. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 03:46, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Also, based on this new Category:Magia Record Memoria Cards and comparing the count with the other Magia Record wiki, there seems to be one card entirely missing. I have no way to determine which one it could be, though, as the category is sorted by filename and the filenames are all over the place.

I wonder how we could track it down. If there's a way of tagging or letting me know which ones need to be renamed to their original file names I'm willing to move them all for the sake of uniformity and so we can track down that last memoria and get it up on the site. Sondenise (talk) 01:35, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
I can't think of any way to track it down other than very carefully checking every memoria on both sites (or here and in another source, if you have access to one). As for renaming them for uniformity, I don't really have a problem with it, but given that moving an image (sometimes? at least when I tried it) appears to break all the pages that use it even if there's a redirect, I'm not planning to volunteer for that task.
I was contemplating adding subcategories for the number of stars the memoria has. That would probably just be a manual process like most of my other efforts (open every page, go through one by one). I don't know if that would help track down whatever's missing, but maybe? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 03:46, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
...and just now I noticed I misclassified one image, so that means there's actually two missing...? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 03:51, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
I did a little digging on said other wiki. The number of 1-3 star memoria listed there is exactly equal to the number listed here, so anything missing is almost certainly 4 star. I also noticed the other Magia Record wiki lists 5 Taiwan-exclusive memoria while this wiki appears to only have 2, unless I missed something... but I'm not sure how that squares with the other wiki having 744 total where we have 742 total. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 13:28, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm not surprised we're missing some of the Taiwan exclusive memoria since I don't know how to access the files for that server, mostly just the JP one (and NA when that was a thing). If I get a chance to this week, I'll comb through the 4* memos and see if I can track down which one they are. Sondenise (talk) 15:52, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

One last thing: I found three card images that are duplicates. In particular, this one exists in both JPEG and WEBP format for some reason:

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~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 20:50, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

This is probably a case where more than one person uploaded the image and then since it's different formats they didn't get the warning. I can deleted the extra file, just tag any other ones you want me to delete with the deletion tag.
On another note entirely, since we now have the "akuma" typing for magireco, would it be possible to write the template so we have like a "|type=other" then put a "|displayname=" where it just displays a name for the typing but it's still categorized as "other"? I think this might take care of the one off types like Nagisa, Nagisa alt, Ult. Madoka-senpai and one or two i've forgotten.
Thank you very much for you hard work and lemme know what I can do to help. Sondenise (talk) 01:35, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Actually, I already added that awhile ago (probably around when I converted Ultimate Madoka-senpai to use the template). The key to use a different name for display is "|typedisplay=", and the three units you mentioned already do this if you need an example. And if you want to recategorize those three as "other" instead of "magia" / "support" / "ultimate" respectively then I don't really have a problem with that either. (Those three were the only ones I saw when converting all the pages BTW.) ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 03:46, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it fits, but I went and filed Akuma Homura as an "Ultimate" type. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 22:29, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

I was considering a way of making memoria lists easier to work with and tried something experimental with File:Memoria 1390 c.png (see how it's linked from other pages). Does this seem like something worth doing for all the memoria cards? The one downside I can see is that it would make it hard to manually sort memoria lists alphabetically… but the automatic sort works for that (apart from not ignoring a leading "the" or "a", which would require either the string manipulation extension or specifying the sort key manually) so I'm not sure how important that is. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 05:54, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Since the auto sorter will still sort them alphabetically, then it wont' be too much of a downside even if it can't ignore some of the leading prepositions. Looking at how you also put the memoria info into the file, is it possible to do this the other way around? In other words, is there a way to reference the memoria info that would be saved with the file image and have it load up onto the character's page without having to recopy the code every time for each character it features? That way we'd only have to write it out once on the image file's page and any subsequent changes would then reflect on other pages where it is referenced? I figure that's probably not doable, but it got me thinking so I just had to ask. As to the original question, if you see value in doing it that way then I don't see why not go for it. As always, thank you immeasurably for all of your hard work. Sondenise (talk) 14:14, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure if you're asking about something that I've already done or not…? What I did was cut-and-paste the memoria info onto the File page, so the code looks sort of like this:
{{Magia Record Memoria Header}}<onlyinclude>{{Magia Record Memoria Row|...info...}}</onlyinclude>{{Magia Record Memoria Footer}}
Then on pages that need to reference that memoria instead of calling {{Magia Record Memoria Row|...info...}}, I call {{File:Memoria Filename.png}}. So, the memoria info is only on the file page and is included from there into whichever pages want to list that memoria.
Is that what you were asking for? If that's the case, it's already done for that one sample memoria. If not… I'm not sure what you're asking for. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk)
Yes! that was exactly what I meant. Sorry, I should have taken a better look at the code but it's finals week so I'm a little crunched for time. But yes, that would work great so we would only have to write the code each time once. Fantastic! Sondenise (talk) 13:51, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Wrong delete

You just deleted File:S1E7 Ikumi 2.png which wasn't on the delete request list (the request was to delete the redirect since I first uploaded it to the wrong name). Is there an easy undelete button? I can of course re-upload it if there isn't… ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 19:41, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Ah, my bad. The deletion request also flagged the image and not just the redirect. There's no way to undelete an image so if you could please re-upload it I'd appreciate it. Sondenise (talk) 22:17, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
I sort of thought that might be an issue, which is why I edited Category:Deletion requests to mention it, but it looks like you either missed that or didn't understand what I meant. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 22:45, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

About the metro map

Is that a fan-made map or an official one?Cause in S1E2 there's a ground marking in Shinsē Center Station, the color used are different from the map. Nevertheless, I'd like to know more about why the route goes this way lol. Thank you for answering:)