Speculah talk:Human Soul and Magic

Why is this theory debunked? I have a pretty bad memory but I can't recall what in episode 6 disproved it, especially with all the entropy talk in Episode 9 (depending on how we interpret it, the entropy might be the "dark energy" OP talked about). If someone could enlighten me ... --Homerun-chan 22:32, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

TBH, I had the exact same feeling - "why is it debunked", but then I read points 3 and 4 carefully. This speculah says that the Soul Gem is some kind of a proxy of the soul, or a "firewall" blocking the actual soul from corruption. As of ep6, we know that it's not true, because the Soul Gem actually is the soul. Other points are still perfectly valid speculah, but... well, that's a problem - if only part of a speculah is debunked, should we flag the entire page as such? --KFYatek 22:40, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

That is a good question, that applies to Speculah:Make a Wish too, by the way (some of the wishes there are correct, hence, should we flag the page as "confirmed"?). Regarding the classification in general, I'd take a very pragmatic, "scientific" approach: if there is an element in one of the episodes that undeniably goes against something stated in one theory, then the page should be flagged as debunked (and same goes for "confirmed"). In the absence of explicit evidence, I think it should stay "unconfirmed".
Now, regarding this particular page, the problem seems to be that it is "partly right, but also partly off". Maybe rewording it a little would solve the issue? --Homerun-chan 22:53, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Hope you like what I did with Speculah:Make a Wish.
About this page... well, rewording would make it not debunked, but also would alter the speculah, and speculahs by nature are not limited by anything but imagination. I think all the theories which were posted over time are worth preserving, but when some speculah article is "partly wrong, partly right, partly still not known"... well, the most complete solution seems to be dividing such articles into separate parts with noting what has been debunked and what has not separately, and linking the pages to each other to indicate it was originally a single speculah. But that would make some articles an unreadable mess :/ --KFYatek 23:29, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Speculah:Make a Wish is perfect (except for the table of contents but I don't have any idea either). I had something like that in mind but was too lazy to pull something off. Anyway, this is a good way to sort the wishes; I think I'll make a template out of those annotations to make the remaining wishes easier to tag. More on this subject on Talk:Wish theories in an instant.
Another solution for articles that are partly right, partly wrong would be to leave them as "unconfirmed" and then tag the parts that are right/wrong in the article, just like what you did with Speculah:Make a Wish. This might work for long articles (divide them by sections, and mark each section as confirmed, debunked or neither), but it wouldn't work for this particular page, which is already pretty small.
How about just adding a new section below the speculah, explaining how it was in the series? (and then leave the page as "unconfirmed")? --Homerun-chan 23:42, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Speculah:Make a Wish was different in a way that it was not a single theory, but rather a collection of not really related ones, grouped by theme. Note that I removed it from the main theories list, but rather made it as an "external chapter". This approach would not work so well for other speculahs, I think.
Back to this article - that's generally a good idea, I think, I also have a little vision of other changes, so I'll make some in a moment. --KFYatek 23:58, 12 March 2011 (UTC)