Talk:Oktavia von Seckendorff

Oktaive comes from Okatve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octave it is a musical word so it does makes sense

Runes name

Once the musical webfont is made, her name (as well as Holger's) should be written in Musical Runes, since it's how it's displayed both on-screen and on the card. --Homerun-chan 19:36, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Card TL

Alternative translation for the card: The mermaid witch. Her nature is that of falling in love. The witch's domain is that of the concert hall that deeply moved her long ago. Her Wheel of Fate bears the load of only her memories and no longer rolls towards the future. Nothing can reach her. She no longer wants to know anything. Now she merely does not forgive those who interrupt the performance of her underlings.

The witch of Mermaid. Her nature is love attachment. She moves around together with concert hall while dreaming her good days. Her rolling fate is only her memories and can no longer move to the future. Nothing can reach her. No longer anything she could know. She can't forgive anyone who interrupt her familiar's music.

• changes were made --Mutopis 20:53, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Falling in Love or Love Attachment?

I prefer Love Attachment, it makes sense since she cannot give up her childhood love. What about you guys? --Mutopis 03:21, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

It just sounds so awkward, and I get the feeling that somebody misunderstood the dictionary definition ("love, attachment, tender emotions, falling in love") when they wrote that. Besides, her obstinacy and refusal to give up her love is basically what the rest of the card text is about.--Urutapu 05:18, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Translation for Second Oktavia Card

The current translation sounded a little odd, so I took a crack at it myself:

人魚の魔女。

Ningyo no majo. (The mermaid witch.)

その性質は恋慕。
Sono seishitsu wa rembo.
(Her nature is love/yearning/falling in love.)

ギターが鳴り響くコンサートホールの中で在りし日の感動を夢見続ける魔女。
Gitaa ga narihibiku konsaato horu no naka de arishi hi no kandou o yumemi tsuzukeru majo.
(The witch continues to dream of a guitar resounding in the middle of a concert hall, a deeply moving impression from past days.)

繰り返す時間の中で僅かな違いこそあれど、運命の車輪は冷徹に回る。
Kurikaesu jikan no naka de wazuka na chigai koso are do, ummei no sharin wa reitetsu ni miru.

(Repeating within that time with little but sure differences, her wheels of fate move round toward cool-headedness.)

Her wheels are moving toward "reitetsu," the characters for which only translate to "cool-headedness" (cold + clarity). Where is "future" in this sentence?

Also, why a guitar this time around? It would be weird if some tragic guitar-player popped up in Sayaka's life, and since Homura's time resets at a relatively late date, I don't see how Kamijou's instrumental preferences or Sayaka's life in general would change from timeline to timeline.

My speculah: In that timeline, Hitomi made her move on Kyousuke in a dance hall. Explains the dance hall-like barrier and the Hitomi backup dancers. When she confessed, a guitar player was performing. Hence, she probably dreams of that same guitar, thinking what if she had confessed to him in that place. BrickBreak 00:42, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

--64.89.144.100 23:33, 27 March 2011 (BST)

Oops, I'm not sure where that "future" comes from, I'll change it. Anyway, one point regarding your translations: I don't think 冷徹に回る translates to "toward cold-headedness", just like how 冷静に見る doesn't translate to "look into composure". My Daijirin dictionary describe 冷徹 as 感情に左右されることなく、冷静に物事を見通すこと。また、そのさま。「―なものの見方」 so I guess the correct translation of that line should be "her wheels of fate move around calmly". Thanks! --0x99 23:46, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem at all! I thought "cool-headed" sounded weird in context, haha. Thank you for all of your translating work! 64.89.144.100 01:16, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

The coat of arms

I was wondering what's the significance of the coat of arms hanging from the swords in the back. Is it based on any real life design? BrickBreak 14:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

comparison between Sayaka's coat of arms and the Seckendorff family coats of arm --Mutopis 18:20, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Oktavia PSP

I wonder if we need a psp gallery for Oktavia or should it be left as it is? --Mutopis 14:57, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Beginning of Episode 9

Is it just me, or does Oktavia seem to use a different design at the very beginning of Episode 9, when her Grief Seed hatches and Kyoko ends up stuck in her barrier? She's slightly thinner sitting on her throne, and she seems to have no armor whatsoever; she also looks like she has black hair flowing around her; this might just be her cape, but it looks more black than blue. It just seems strange to me how they would change the design from scene to scene like that. If this is true, it's a little tidbit we could add to the trivia. -76.217.30.82

Bumping this so it can be seen. -76.217.30.82

Another bump (somebody, please respond! Don't ignore it; nobody's going to come in and respond for you!). -216.175.65.229

I think that her lack of armor is because her cape is covering most of her upper body (she's not holding a sword or conducting the orchestra). The black cape could be because the lighting is different in her train station barrier and her final barrier. Shaft isn't really well known for being consistent either. KurouKuriko 20:13, 7 December 2013 (UTC)