Talk:Main Page

Previous discussions are archived at:

• Talk:Main Page/Archive 1 (January 18, 2011–February 27, 2011)
• Talk:Main Page/Archive 2 (February 28, 2011-April 25, 2011)
• Talk:Main Page/Archive 3 (April 25, 2011-March 14, 2012)

Wiki reorganization

Since we now have more contents than when we started a year ago, I think it's now the time to reorganize part of series into its own section. My suggestion:

Main page
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|- Madoka Magica
|  |- Madoka Magica Characters
|  |- Madoka Magica Episodes
|  |- Madoka Magica Theories
|  |- Madoka Magica Observations
|  |- Madoka Magica Soundtrack
|  `- ...
|
|- Madoka Magica Portable
|  |- Madoka Magica Portable Characters
|  |- Madoka Magica Portable Story
|  `- ...
|
|- Madoka Magica Mobage
|  `- ...
|
|- Oriko Magica
|  |- Oriko Magica Characters
|  |- Oriko Magica Chapters
|  `- ...
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|- Kazumi Magica Portal
|  |- Kazumi Magica Characters
|  |- Kazumi Magica Chapters
|  `- ...
|
|- Deciphering the runes
|- Translated official documents
`- ...

...with each section has a footer navbox template similar to the one in Wikipedia (like in wikipedia:Bakemonogatari#External_links). Any page that don't need its own section goes into flat page as usual (e.g. maybe the Mobage stuff). This would allow contents to expand more easily and make more room for future contents (Movie, possible spinoffs, etc.). Thoughts? --0x99 10:36, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I would prefer a page for Translated Official Documents as well as the Translated Official Miscellaneous. It's fine to keep it under Products. There's overlap between the two anyways. More than Runes, in any case. --randomanon 10:55, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, do you mean section for each documents?

Translated official documents
|- NewType 2999/12
`- ...

But isn't this already the way it works? --0x99 11:17, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm asking for two links. One to Translated Official Documents and another to Translated Official Miscellaneous to be posted at the same level. They can be kept under Products. Right now, we only have a link to the first one. randomanon 12:18, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Ah OK. Yes, we can do that. --0x99 12:27, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, thanks. And it can be "Documents" and "Documents Other" or something to keep the title short. --randomanon 16:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I added it as Official Materials in the sidebar for now, should rename the page during reorganization (so it doesn't looks like a subpage of Documents that way). --0x99

Gallery cleanup

Also it might also make sense to cleanup gallery with this reorganization. Character pages are too image-heavy and we're nearly hitting 1TB transfer each month (we used around ~800GB of bandwidth last month). Any input on how to deal with this is always welcome (i.e. what to delete and what to keep). --0x99 15:56, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad you're addressing it. I've felt for a while now too many pages have excessive pics in the galleries. I would strongly suggest deleting most of the ones that's easily obtainable from another static source like pixiv, danbooru, etc. unless there's a compelling reason for it. For example, we don't need a dozen pics of Homura with weapons. Just a couple or few will make that point. There's also lots of screenshots that are posted that don't really seem to have a point. We have ten of them in Homura's gallery of just different expressions. Why? If screenshots are posted, they should illustrate a point. For example, I might include three of hers with Moemura, timelooping Homura and ribbon Homura to show contrast in changing expression. People should really think about what they post and why, not just post for the sake of it. --randomanon 16:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

What about those 2ch/2chan photoshopped images of magazine illustrations? Should we keep it or delete them also? --0x99 16:11, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Maybe post one of each illustration, and put the rest in a zip for download. Not sure why, but they seem really popular. I get the same download counts for them as I do doujins. Also, maybe get more selective about gifs as well. I doubt we need as many as we have. Keep the best ones and provide the rest in zips. --randomanon 16:17, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, maybe we could make a "photoshopped images of official illustrations" section and dump all of them to it in a organized manner. (Thumbnail of original, then list photoshopped images, and maybe the first time they appeared, etc.) Finding sources would be very hard though. --0x99 16:22, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

It might be a good idea to have image gallery pages for a bunch of different categories. If it's just "don't post more than necessary" we'd have to constantly police people who think posting images cleans their soul gems, but if there's gallery pages they can be directed over there and have fun without filling up high traffic pages. So at the bottom of Homura's page there'd be a text link to Gallery/Homura. KM 20:48, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Ultimately, that would not resolve the image-heavy pages/1TB data transfer issue 0x99 is talking about. All you're doing is moving pics to a new page, and it's only a matter of time before they become extremely image-heavy. In fact, dedicating blank pages to image galleries would probably only encourage more image postings. A certain amount of self-restraint makes sense. There's 4chan and other image boards for that purpose, no need to treat the wiki like one. I think the merchandise page could use a look through as well. Many of the pics taken of say a figma from various angles isn't necessary, since the link to purchase it displays all those pics. It's redundant and that page is becoming very long, as new things are constantly being added. --randomanon 21:03, 14 March 2012 (UTC)