Talk:Magia Exedra Event - Forever Halloween Night
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Wait why were the adv chara sprites deleted?? I can understand Rebecca as she was in a part cluttered with images but the others fit nicely? - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 07:52, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Person who removed them, I just personally didn't think they looked good, and for the Rebecca thing, it would be weird to just remove one and not the others (except for Bebe but she's kinda different). I also don't think the enemy sprites are something that should be included in summaries in general since they would just clutter up the page up too much, but that's just my opinion KyoSayaRulzRB (talk) 11:18, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- I honestly just want as much representation with the images as possible, so that's why I didn't include big bebe in the first scene she appears in, because the Portrait that's there already shows the big form. This story doesn't use labyrinths, so while I could just use the Labyrinth in other cases (like Exedra Quest - Chapter 1, no sprites used there), here its just better to use the sprite? And especially Zenobia and Big Bebe were definitely not cluttering the summary up as they were in a very empty sections (didnt want to repeat backgrounds), and now that section feels wrong. Also if we did the either keep them all or removed them all then we should probably add all Bebe's sprites or remove her at all (Im against this argument and for keeping one Bebe). - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 11:51, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Fair, I'll add the sprites back, but one more thing (this probably goes without saying but whatever), is this going to happen for all the summaries? It would be weird to have this much images just here and nowhere else KyoSayaRulzRB (talk) 18:47, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah I don't like how inconsistent that would be but it feels impossible with just how many summaries we already have. The summaries are already inconsistent, I mean some record summaries make sure to list every single episode like Magia Record Event - The Great Banquet that Transcends Time, but have 0 images... I do wish somebody (or I wish I had the motivation to) went through the record summary pages and made them consistent, but that's a LOT to do and I know nobody wants to do it (same _ _"). Right now as I'm making new summaries I want to add many images, with the only rules being don't repeat images and don't use Live2Ds. And I don't like the idea of using less images because of already existing summaries, that just limits the pages from looking good imo.
- Also, can we bring back the versions of the adv chara sprites where they were cropped? I know that's kinda wrong but look at Rebecca, that sprite is mostly empty T^T. I don't wanna do it unless it's discussed tho. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 00:04, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- About the summaries, I think adding more images to them (and also maybe making the formatting more consistent, especially with the MagiReco ones) is doable, even if it takes awhile, I also could definitely do some (I especially want to clean up the Scene 0 ones to replace the Live 2Ds with BGs)
- And yeah you can bring back the cropped sprites, they do look way better (I don't know what I was on) KyoSayaRulzRB (talk) 02:52, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah the Scene 0 pages are troubling cause I don't think they look bad at all, but they look SO different from any other summary page. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 03:03, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- Fair, I'll add the sprites back, but one more thing (this probably goes without saying but whatever), is this going to happen for all the summaries? It would be weird to have this much images just here and nowhere else KyoSayaRulzRB (talk) 18:47, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- I honestly just want as much representation with the images as possible, so that's why I didn't include big bebe in the first scene she appears in, because the Portrait that's there already shows the big form. This story doesn't use labyrinths, so while I could just use the Labyrinth in other cases (like Exedra Quest - Chapter 1, no sprites used there), here its just better to use the sprite? And especially Zenobia and Big Bebe were definitely not cluttering the summary up as they were in a very empty sections (didnt want to repeat backgrounds), and now that section feels wrong. Also if we did the either keep them all or removed them all then we should probably add all Bebe's sprites or remove her at all (Im against this argument and for keeping one Bebe). - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 11:51, 23 October 2026 (UTC)
- I dunno, I think this page looks a bit overly cluttered like this. What about putting the BGs centred like I've done on several other event pages, instead of floated thumbs? Then the text doesn't wrap around them, but… they're setting the scene for the next passage, so I think that should be fine? The witches can remain as floated thumbs though (they could probably even be made smaller, actually). And I don't see why you'd be excluding Live2Ds from event summaries? I wouldn't put in every single Live2D model (that would be a waste of space, there are way too many of them), but in cases where it represents some plot-significant costume change, it might be worth including one. I also second cropping excess whitespace from the witch images (and all images, honestly). The arguments I can think of in favour of leaving the whitespace are:
- "Don't modify the original image" — That would make sense for an asset dump or archival project, but we're a wiki – the point of the site is conveying information, not preservation. So there's no particular reason to preserve the original image exactly as it existed in the game. In fact, this is a very good reason not to in many cases, as texture maps are extremely bad for conveying information. (We're already applying this with the practice of uploading rendered Live2Ds instead of the Live2D texture maps.)
- "The whitespace simplifies the process of aligning things" – I think in most cases we don't want to align things anyway. The only case I can think of where this would make sense would be the Live2D models, where preserving the whitespace could possibly mean you can line several up and get a sense of the characters' relative heights, though I don't know if the models actually keep the heights internally consistent to start with; plus, that only argues for preserving vertical whitespace padding, not horizontal.
- On the other hand, cropping the whitespace maximizes the size of the visible portion of the image in thumbnails, allowing you to see more detail without clicking on it. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 16:34, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- Im not really sure if I like the big images in the centers, but at the same time I do think the Portrait/Adv Still images on this page kinda blend too much with the backgrounds... I still prefer thumbs, so maybe the illustrations should be 400px instead of the regular thumb size? Still makes them big, but doesn't force the text to be under it (which imo is bad with the big centered images, it feels like it separates the text and images too much). Also about cropping the adv chara's I agree with all your points, the actual stories don't show like 50% of the image anyway, so trying to stay true to the proportions feels pointless. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 17:26, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
- Forgot to mention, I was thinking of displaying the Live2D of all the girls that appear in Part 2 with galleries when I was writing the summary, but decided not to. Idk, they're not shown in any of the images (unlike the proper Halloween girls) so it kinda felt right. The galleries would alternate between right and left like the thumbs do and would end at Akira. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 17:33, 24 October 2026 (UTC)