Talk:Walpurgis Night

I removed the redirection code so that we can eventually move the Speculah page over here. Momoism 18:25, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

And one more thing: should this be "Walpurgis Night" or "Walpurgisnacht," as per the runes shown in Episode 11? Momoism 18:32, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Wait, what do we do in the end? Keep Speculah:Walpurgis Night and just move it here? (there's an option for that, no need to copypaste the page). Cuz I see you already prepared a few sections, but they don't fit what's already existing on Speculah:Walpurgis Night. As for the name, out of habit I'd go with Walpurgis Night since it's how we informally called her, and that's what the card says ("ワルプルギスの夜"). Looks like even Shaft is indecisive on this one ... --Homerun-chan 18:47, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

The question is, do we format the page so that it matches the other character pages or the original speculah page? I think the best thing to do would be to sort out the speculah so that we have confirmed theories and observations under "Trivia," unconfirmed theories under "Speculation," and information links...under "Links." We could also put only official information and images on the character page, then keep everything else on the speculah page. Momoism 20:49, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

There were other solutions discussed, but now that's this page is started, I think it'd be good to merge all the other pages here. --KFYatek 20:59, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

So we're going with the "two pages" solution then? To sum it up (and make sure everybody's doing the same), this page contains all the info about the witch then, while Speculah:Walpurgis Night contains info about the real-life thing and everything that isn't directly Madoka-related. --Homerun-chan 21:02, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

I'll let the cleaning of the other page to you guys; I spent way too much time on this wiki today already. However, when I'll find the courage to do wiki management again, I propose we rename Speculah:Walpurgis Night into Walpurgis Night in real-life or something, that should be more explicit. --Homerun-chan 21:10, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

she symbolizes a fool. that explains why there were the words "Ein Narr" in homura´s house since "Ein Narr" means "a fool" --89.247.162.101 22:47, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Homura's house also showed the word "Bühnentechnik" several times, so shouldn't we call Walpurgisnacht "The witch of stagecraft" instead of "The witch of stage settings"? --TATZL 23:37, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

"Butaisouchi no majo" literally translates to "witch of stage setting(s)" or "set construction," so it seems that "stagecraft" (while sounding much nicer) is more broad than the actual term used for the witch. Momoism 23:52, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't "歴史の中で語り継がれる謎の魔女" be translated as "A misteryous witch whose story has been handed down through the course of history"? I think the "mysterious witch" part is important.--201.223.202.113 03:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

I think it's pretty unlikely that the green-haired Puella Magi was Walpurgis Night. Madoka purified her Soul Gem and she faded away before Walpurgis was destroyed in the fight. Shouldn't that note be in speculation, anyway? MsDevin92 00:15, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

• Never mind, looks like it was moved to Speculah.

Speculations

We need to come to a consensus on where to draw the line between Walpurgis Night#Speculation and Speculah:Walpurgis Night. Prima 23:28, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

I personally think that speculah relating to Walpurgis the witch (e.g., where she came from, why she doesn't have a grief seed, why her familiars look like magical girls, and so on) should be in Walpurgis Night#Speculation, whereas speculah relating to Walpurgis Night's place in real history, Faust, myth, and art should be in Speculah:Walpurgis Night. (Homerun-chan's idea of renaming the original speculah page to "Walpurgis Night in Real Life" would help draw a better line.) That said, I'm not sure where the "Usage of the Term in Canon" section from the original page should go, since it's a) directly related to the anime but b) not necessary for our understanding of Walpurgis Night, the character. Momoism 23:52, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

It seems no one has mentioned that the original magical girl turned witch would probably have been Saint Walpurga, just throwing this out there!74.71.58.255 00:28, 12 July 2012 (UTC)nosignatureneeded

Gallery

Would it be possible to get some more screencaps of Walpurgis from Episodes 11 and 12? I can't get them myself, and I don't want to risk raising the ire of some anime blogger by taking his or her images. Momoism 23:55, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

About the minions

I know this should be just speculah, but compare the minion's card with the "family photo" at the end of episode 12. Considering the girl on the extreme left as #1:

Top left on the card is #14
Top middle is #12
Top right is #3
Bottom left is #1
Bottom middle is #4
Bottom right is #15

Whoever, note all of them are smaller than the originals (not quite chibi, though). Still, the resemblance is obvious. BrickBreak 00:21, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Let me fix it for you, Bottom middle is #4 not #14. Well I supposed I think it is really Charlotte. Judging tho the shadow, since it has a small "companion". I will only pray that the author might tell who are they. -Dandan550 06:23, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Walpurgis and the Pleaides?

the Familiars are made out of stars and they have just bumped into someone with an interesting hobby. anyone else think that walpurgis might be the outcome of this meeting?Paige 18:14, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Confirmed theory?

In the Speculation section there is the theory of Walpurgis absorbing Puella Magis and witches and it is says it has been confirmed in a interview by Urobuchi. I think it should be included some sort of link to the interview so that people can read it. (Moichispa 23:53, 30 August 2011 (UTC))

http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Megami_Magazine_2011-07, midway down the page, "It has the destructive power to bring about natural disasters powerful enough to blow away an entire town, but originally it was a single witch. It's a witch that has grown from the combination of countless other witches. Walpurgis Night combines with other witches in the same way two powerful tornadoes are able to combine and become larger. It's essentially a "conglomeration"-type witch."

We are going to need to add the confirmed theory template in this section --Mutopis 00:07, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Helplessness

I've been thinking lately, and I have a theory as to why the Witch of Stage-Constructing would have a helpless nature. Let us assume that the Witch IS NOT Homura as many would claim. Since the Witch's goal is to turn the world into one giant stage, she would be the Protagonist of this "script" identified in the Production Note. But she has a helpless nature because she is stuck playing the same role her whole life: the role of the Destroyer. She tries to change the role with all her might, but she continues to "rotate aimlessly," as she is unable to change her role, for the script is fixed and cannot be changed. So she is forced to play the role of the destroyer for the rest of her life.

Am I onto something? --SPDUDE48 13:29, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

I always thought she was helpless because she couldn't control the events on her life, by setting a stage she is fabricating or at least creating the illusions that she has some control in her life, at least that is my interpretation. You are correct on the part of "Protagonist", it sounds like she wants to be the main heroine of her play. --Mutopis 13:36, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Well her helpless nature ties in with her role as a destructive poet and the Protagonist: The Destroyer is the Protagonist. She does not want to be the Destroyer. But there is a script that binds to this role (she did not write the script herself) She's probably laughing at herself for being such a fool to try and change the script (destiny). --SPDUDE48 14:04, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Walpurgis does have a grief seed

when playing around with the psp's game file, i found the sprite of Walpurgis's grief seed in archive.cpk\Scene_Griefseed\gs.pac\GRIEF_GS_ICON_WALP.GIM, here is it http://i.imgur.com/c9XmH.png Kimidori 16:37, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

So now we have confirmation that WP has a Grief Seed and is NOT Homura's Witch. Are there any other sprites like that? Where did you find it? Any links? SPDUDE48 16:43, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

i found it in the psp's game file, here is all of them http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4072007&postcount=186 Kimidori 16:47, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Walpurgis Night's Grief Seed is gotten upon defeating her in Mysterious Witch's Barrier > Oblivious barrier--84.77.58.17 20:48, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Wild Mass Guessing

I was wondering, could Walpurgis have been based on a certain fictional king of England?

A sad history of contract that dragged a poor soul through many bloody disasters in human history that of which the nature was covered by magic, not to mention the ridiculous amount of power among it's peers and unstoppable resistance.

Rein Narr?

In my opinion, i think in Homura-chan's house, http://wiki.puella-magi.net/File:Display_06.jpg on the picture above, it's spelled 'Rein Narr' instead of 'Kein Narr', don't you think? Since Rein Narr means pure fool

I am sorry for my amateur english. Clarissa 17:59, 2 March 2013 (UTC)Clarissa