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I'm going to place the witch character cards I took images of here until their proper pages can be made or for [[User:The Witch's House]] to use. I also have the clear .png's of most if not all of these characters so unless you guys want me to upload those too?[[User:Sondenise|Sondenise]] 06:34, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm going to place the witch character cards I took images of here until their proper pages can be made or for [[User:The Witch's House]] to use. I also have the clear .png's of most if not all of these characters so unless you guys want me to upload those too?[[User:Sondenise|Sondenise]] 06:34, 8 September 2017 (UTC)


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Thank you for helping me out, I really appreciate it Sondenise! I have clear .pngs of the witches and familiars already, the issue was figuring out which familiar belongs to which witch (that you clarified for me in the pages already made, again thank you!) What is really needed now is the Japanese and English descriptions. I'm a bit slow with making cards at the moment due to some IRL stuff, but I'm working on them and I'll have them up as soon as I can.
Thank you for helping me out, I really appreciate it Sondenise! I have clear .pngs of the witches and familiars already, the issue was figuring out which familiar belongs to which witch (that you clarified for me in the pages already made, again thank you!) What is really needed now is the Japanese and English descriptions. I'm a bit slow with making cards at the moment due to some IRL stuff, but I'm working on them and I'll have them up as soon as I can.


There appears to be 2 witches and familiars there that don't have their names in runes, which I'm assuming are the Mirror witch and the Symbols witch. I can't read Japanese, might you know which one is which? -- [[User:The Witch&#39;s House|The Witch&#39;s House]] 07:20, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
There appears to be 2 witches and familiars there that don't have their names in runes, which I'm assuming are the Mirror witch and the Symbols witch. I can't read Japanese, might you know which one is which? -- [[User:The Witch&#39;s House|The Witch&#39;s House]] 07:20, 8 September 2017 (UTC)


OK, I set up the images better for easy editing and transfer. If you want to move them to proper pages already or let them hang out for a bit here I'll leave to you. Also, apologizes in advance for crud translations but at least I was able to transcribe the japanese for the most part.[[User:Sondenise|Sondenise]] 08:24, 8 September 2017 (UTC)


==Witch==
Thanks again! And don't worry too much about the translations, they'll be translated sooner or later. When it's clear what's a witch and what type it is (judging by some of the question marks here), I'll fix and upload the cards of these ones on the page. For now I have them organized and ready to be edited when more information is known. --[[User:The Witch&#39;s House|The Witch&#39;s House]] 11:01, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
{{Card
|name          = ?????(絶交階段のウワサ / Ridiculous stairway rumors)
|runes        = ?????
|image        = File:Card Missing.png
|japanese_desc = アラもう聞いた?誰から聞いた?絶交階段のそのウワサフンだ!キライだ!ゼッコウだ!って言ったら見えないけどそこにある!もしも仲直りしようとすると、連れて行かれてサータイヘン!友達を落とした黒い少女に捕まると、無限の階段掃除をさせられちゃうって、神浜市の少女の間ではもっぱらのウワサヒーコワイ!
|english_desc  = Did you hear Arara already? Who did you ask? It's that stupid stairway that stupid! I am disappointed! It's gypsy! I can not see it if I say it, but it is there! If I tried to make up, I was taken to Siraithen! When it gets caught by a black girl who dropped a friend, it is made to do infinite staircase cleaning, and among the girls in Kamihama City, it is solely rumored to be a rumor!
|type          = ??? Witch
|nature        =
|episodes      = [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica Side Story: Magia Record]]
}}


== Minions ==
== Concept art translations ==


{{Card
Could someone maybe translate some of those concept art images? I'm particularly interested in the scrapped Kirico Keeper. ~ [[User:Celtic Minstrel|Celtic Minstrel]] ([[User talk:Celtic Minstrel|talk]]) 13:28, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
|name          = ????? (絶交南京錠のウワサ / Ridiculous padlock rumors)
|runes        = ?????
|image        = File:Card Missing.png
|japanese_desc = アラもう聞いた?誰から聞いた?絶交南京錠のそのウワサ橋に岬に展望台、色んな所で絆を誓う、それが愛の南京錠!でもでもコレはセーハンタイ!鍵を開けて絆を解くヒドイ絶交南京錠!虫のように群がって、捕らえられたらもう最後絶交階段に閉じ込められちゃつって、神浜市の子供の間ではもっぱらのウワサ!モーヒドーイ!
|english_desc  = Did you hear Arara already? Who did you ask? Put on the observatory on the cape on that rumor basket on the rugged padlock, swear the bonds in many places, it is the padlock of love! But Colle is Sehantai! Opening the key and solving the bonds Hydoy diplomacy padlock! As they gathered like insects, they were trapped in the last staple after getting caught, and among the children in Kamihama City, they are all rumors! Mohidyi!
|type          =
|task          =
|episodes      = Magica Record
}}


The stuff in the scrapped Keeper's image is basically already translated in the last trivia point (except for the part where Mitama replaces it in the finished game, which isn't included).--[[User:Athree|Athree]] ([[User talk:Athree|talk]]) 17:47, 7 April 2022 (UTC)


==Witch==
:Ah! I totally missed that, thanks! ~ [[User:Celtic Minstrel|Celtic Minstrel]] ([[User talk:Celtic Minstrel|talk]]) 18:25, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
{{Card
|name          = ????? (マチピー馬のウワサ / Machipi horse's rumors)
|runes        = ????? ( / )
|image        = File:Card Missing.png
|japanese_desc = アラもう聞いた?誰から聞いた?マチビト馬のそのウワサ神社を支えるその神は、ファンシーでナイスなジェントル馬ン!皆の願いを叶えるために、会いたい人に会わせてくれる粋なヤツ!だけど残念、それは幻覚a気付いて否定しちゃったら、ジェントル馬ンがギャングスタ-に変わっちゃつって、水名区の人の間ではもっぱらのウワサ!カッテスギー!
|english_desc  = Did you hear Arara already? Who did you ask? That god that supports that rabbit shrine of Matobito horse is a fancy and nice gentle maid! It is a stylish guy who will make you meet the person you want to meet in order to make everyone's wish come true! However, sorry, it is a hallucination a I notice and deny, my gentle horse changed to a gangstera, and among the people in the water name district it is exclusive rumors! Cutteggy!
|type          = ??? Witch
|nature        =
|episodes      = [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica Side Story: Magia Record]]
}}
== Minions ==


{{Card
== True Name ==
|name          = ????? (口寄せ絵馬のウワサ / Branding ema's rumors)
Since the incomplete form is Sarah Mirabilis W and her "true" name is Winchester, how much you wanna bet it's actually "Sarah Mirabilis Winchester"? :P
|runes        = ?????
[[User:Sondenise|Sondenise]] ([[User talk:Sondenise|talk]]) 00:55, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
|image        = File:Card missing.png
|japanese_desc = アラもう聞いた?誰から聞いた?口寄せ絵馬のそのウワサでっかい羽虫のようなこの絵馬は、マチビト馬への案内人?良く見りゃ誰かが書いた絵馬で、誰かの名前が書いてある。実はこの絵馬を捕まえて誰かの体の一部を張れば、それがポワンッと現れるって、水名区の人の間ではもっぱらのウワサ!オイデマセー!
|english_desc  = Did you hear Arara already? Who did you ask? That watermelon's empty rabbit like a huge egg is a guide to a Matibito horse? An ema often written by someone, someone's name is written. Actually, catching this ema and stretching a part of someone's body, it will appear poorly, it is exclusive rumors among people in the water district! Odemasei!
|type          =
|task          =
|episodes      = Magica Record
}}
== Minions ==


{{Card
== Memoria text addition ==
|name          = Echo
 
|runes        = ECHO
Since the memoria's are technically on her page, I added the flipped text for the memoria. I think this is a valid change? [[User:Amaterasu|Amaterasu]] ([[User talk:Amaterasu|talk]]) 02:19, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
|image        = File:Card Missing.png
: I guess it's reasonable… though it makes me think, couldn't we put the flipped text directly on the memoria page but use CSS to display it reversed? See below for examples. The first one uses CSS transform, so even the letters are reflected. The second uses a right-to-left override so that the letters are rendered in reverse order, like the usual for Arabic or Hebrew. By using one of these methods it should even be possible to add a button that flips it in-place so you can read it. ~ [[User:Celtic Minstrel|Celtic Minstrel]] ([[User talk:Celtic Minstrel|talk]]) 05:55, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
|japanese_desc =  
 
|english_desc  =
<blockquote style="transform: scaleX(-1)">This is a test.</blockquote>
|type          = witch's Minion I
<blockquote>&#x202e;This is a test.</blockquote>
|task          =
 
|episodes      = Magica Record
:: Thats a good idea. Though how we would actually do that though is beyond me. [[User:Amaterasu|Amaterasu]] ([[User talk:Amaterasu|talk]]) 13:22, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
}}
::: I suppose the first question would be to choose one of the above two methods. ~ [[User:Celtic Minstrel|Celtic Minstrel]] ([[User talk:Celtic Minstrel|talk]]) 00:29, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
{{Card
::::Realistically, I would pick the "Arabic/Hebrew" option in order to reverse the common English format. [[User:Amaterasu|Amaterasu]] ([[User talk:Amaterasu|talk]]) 22:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
|name          = Echo
:::::How does this sample look? If it seems okay I'll add a class to [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] so the backwards state can be toggled on and off. (It would also be interesting to see if anyone can find a screenshot of the memoria's description on the NA server… pretty unlikely, but still.) ~ [[User:Celtic Minstrel|Celtic Minstrel]] ([[User talk:Celtic Minstrel|talk]]) 01:20, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
|runes        = ECHO
 
|image        = File:Card Missing.png
<p style="width: 20%; text-align: center;"><span style="direction:rtl; unicode-bidi: bidi-override">'Whoawhoawhoawhoa... whoa! A fish! I can feel a tug!'<br>'Woah! Th-this is...?!'<br>'Myako-senpai!'<br>(...Yeah! Todays radar is in great condition!)</span></p>
|japanese_desc =
 
|english_desc  =
::::::It looks good! Good job, Minstrel! [[User:Amaterasu|Amaterasu]] ([[User talk:Amaterasu|talk]]) 12:05, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
|type          = witch's Minion II
|task          =
|episodes      = Magica Record
}}
{{Card
|name          = Echo
|runes        = ECHO
|image        = File:Card Missing.png
|japanese_desc =
|english_desc  =
|type          = witch's Minion III
|task          =
|episodes      = Magica Record
}}
{{Card
|name          = Echo
|runes        = ECHO
|image        = File:Card Missing.png
|japanese_desc =
|english_desc  =
|type          = witch's Minion IV
|task          =
|episodes      = Magica Record
}}
{{Card
|name          = Familiar
|runes        = FAMILIAR
|image        = File:Card Missing.png
|japanese_desc =
|english_desc  =
|type          =
|task          =
|episodes      = Magica Record
}}

Latest revision as of 12:05, 14 December 2023

I'm going to place the witch character cards I took images of here until their proper pages can be made or for User:The Witch's House to use. I also have the clear .png's of most if not all of these characters so unless you guys want me to upload those too?Sondenise 06:34, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for helping me out, I really appreciate it Sondenise! I have clear .pngs of the witches and familiars already, the issue was figuring out which familiar belongs to which witch (that you clarified for me in the pages already made, again thank you!) What is really needed now is the Japanese and English descriptions. I'm a bit slow with making cards at the moment due to some IRL stuff, but I'm working on them and I'll have them up as soon as I can.

There appears to be 2 witches and familiars there that don't have their names in runes, which I'm assuming are the Mirror witch and the Symbols witch. I can't read Japanese, might you know which one is which? -- The Witch's House 07:20, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

OK, I set up the images better for easy editing and transfer. If you want to move them to proper pages already or let them hang out for a bit here I'll leave to you. Also, apologizes in advance for crud translations but at least I was able to transcribe the japanese for the most part.Sondenise 08:24, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks again! And don't worry too much about the translations, they'll be translated sooner or later. When it's clear what's a witch and what type it is (judging by some of the question marks here), I'll fix and upload the cards of these ones on the page. For now I have them organized and ready to be edited when more information is known. --The Witch's House 11:01, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Concept art translations

Could someone maybe translate some of those concept art images? I'm particularly interested in the scrapped Kirico Keeper. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 13:28, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

The stuff in the scrapped Keeper's image is basically already translated in the last trivia point (except for the part where Mitama replaces it in the finished game, which isn't included).--Athree (talk) 17:47, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Ah! I totally missed that, thanks! ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 18:25, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

True Name

Since the incomplete form is Sarah Mirabilis W and her "true" name is Winchester, how much you wanna bet it's actually "Sarah Mirabilis Winchester"? :P Sondenise (talk) 00:55, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Memoria text addition

Since the memoria's are technically on her page, I added the flipped text for the memoria. I think this is a valid change? Amaterasu (talk) 02:19, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

I guess it's reasonable… though it makes me think, couldn't we put the flipped text directly on the memoria page but use CSS to display it reversed? See below for examples. The first one uses CSS transform, so even the letters are reflected. The second uses a right-to-left override so that the letters are rendered in reverse order, like the usual for Arabic or Hebrew. By using one of these methods it should even be possible to add a button that flips it in-place so you can read it. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 05:55, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

This is a test.

‮This is a test.

Thats a good idea. Though how we would actually do that though is beyond me. Amaterasu (talk) 13:22, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
I suppose the first question would be to choose one of the above two methods. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 00:29, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Realistically, I would pick the "Arabic/Hebrew" option in order to reverse the common English format. Amaterasu (talk) 22:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
How does this sample look? If it seems okay I'll add a class to MediaWiki:Common.css so the backwards state can be toggled on and off. (It would also be interesting to see if anyone can find a screenshot of the memoria's description on the NA server… pretty unlikely, but still.) ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 01:20, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

'Whoawhoawhoawhoa... whoa! A fish! I can feel a tug!'
'Woah! Th-this is...?!'
'Myako-senpai!'
(...Yeah! Todays radar is in great condition!)

It looks good! Good job, Minstrel! Amaterasu (talk) 12:05, 14 December 2023 (UTC)