User talk:Amaterasu

To display a memoria, you have to put the code on the image description itself. Basically click the image, then click edit. just look at a different memoria and copy the format. Once you do that and put it on the character page between the two sets of brackets how you were doing it'll show up. Sondenise (talk) 04:03, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll do that in the future. Amaterasu (talk) 11:03, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

\n

I undid your \n removal on Madoka Magica Online Story Quest 11 and instead replaced them with <br>, which was probably the original intention. I copied the entire text into a text editor and just used find and replace all. I'm noting it here in case there are \n on other pages too, and because I accidentally submitted before I finished writing the edit summary. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 13:40, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Thats fair, and I'll do that in the future. Thanks for telling me! Amaterasu (talk) 15:03, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Plurals

Just letting you know, you don't need to create redirects for plurals (unless it is a highly irregular plural). You can just write [[wraith]]s and the link will automatically expand to include the S. (That goes for other letters besides just S too, so you could for example do that for a -ed or -ing ending.) ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 23:14, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Oh. I see. Thanks! Amaterasu (talk) 01:59, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Cards

In case you were planning to make card galleries also for Kyoko, Mami, and Sayaka, you can find all the Mobage cards at Category:Madoka Mobage Star Cards. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 04:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I was planning on doing that, so having an actual "bank" of their cards is useful. Amaterasu (talk) 11:44, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Why did you suddenly delete six of them? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 18:58, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Duplicates, I think? I wouldn't have deleted them if they weren't duplicates. Amaterasu (talk) 19:33, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

If they are duplicates, can you add the category to the ones they're duplicates of? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 00:38, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. I'll do it! Amaterasu (talk) 12:39, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

…when exactly…? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 03:44, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Also, for the last pair, why did you delete the ones that were inconsistently named and not categorized instead of the ones that were consistently named and properly categorized? If the other one had been a png instead of jpg that would make sense, but they were both jpg… or was the other higher-res? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 03:46, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

First answer: soon. I am currently trying to clear out the "unused files" section, so it will take time before I get to categorizing the files. For your second, the ones I didnt delete were already in use and I didnt want to replace them. Amaterasu (talk) 12:05, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

My brain works in a weird way. If I interrupt an activity, I need to complete the other activity before I go back to the interrupted. Its more efficient for me to move on from one project to another once the first is done. Amaterasu (talk) 12:07, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

How to Tell

This is in response to your deletion log message:

Used. Weird how its technically in use but the files dont show it.

The way I've been identifying files to undelete is via Special:WantedPages. To detect that they're used so as to avoid deleting them in the first place, or to make them not be used anymore (which might be more appropriate for some of them), you can go to the file page and click on "What links here" in the tools section of the sidebar. It seems that direct linking to a file (rather than embedding it) doesn't count for the "File Usage" section on the file's page. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 18:33, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Ooh, good idea! I'll do that in the future. Amaterasu (talk) 03:35, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Future of Fanworks

Content moved to the talk page for the main page

Puella Magi Madoka Magica TPS

The wikipedia page for Kyoko Sakura mentions a Kyoko Sakura and Sayaka Miki third person shooter (go to the page, hit ctrl F and paste "Puella Magi Madoka Magica TPS Featuring Sayaka Miki & Sakura Kyoko"). We dont seem to have a page for it on the wiki, but there also doesnt seem to be much information about it in general. I dont even know if that is the correct name or not. Amaterasu (talk) 14:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Henshin screenshots

Yo, there's a better way to get fullres screencaps from the henshins than just screenshotting - download the henshin from here and then run it through OpenShot (I tried other video editors, but they introduced new artifacting and bluriness half the time). The MagiReco henshins use the FHD 1080p 23.98 fps (1920x1080) profile; just go to export video, then set the profile, then go to the advanced section and pick "series of images". Taking a screenshot from the game means the image will be rescaled, compressed, it'll have the skip button and overall the quality will be worse; this allows you to skip that. EPF (talk) 11:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Great, but I'm not the one screenshotting them (I am merely cleaning up the screenshots). I think Celtic Minstrel is the one who does it? Amaterasu (talk) 12:48, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Nope, I haven't uploaded any transformation shots. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 13:55, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Weird. Maybe Sondenise then? I know someone has been uploading them. I'll undelete the old M0miHenshin.jpg file to see who uploaded it. Amaterasu (talk) 14:19, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Yep, it was Sondenise. Amaterasu (talk) 14:20, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Appearance

Your rationale for deleting a detailed written description of Kuroe was:

It doesn't appear in other pages, so it shouldn't appear here.

I don't think this makes any sense. It's useful to have a written description (though that was a little too detailed – "peach skin"? Really?), so not appearing in other pages seems to me to be more of a reason to add it to the other pages rather than deleting it from Kuroe's page. (Though obviously that's a huge amount of work and I'm not suggesting you actually go and do it… still, I don't think there's any good reason to delete it from Kuroe's page when someone went to the trouble of actually writing that.) ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 23:50, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

I just realized that the one who wrote it was you? So it's not quite as bad if that's the case, but I still think the general argument here stands. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 23:59, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

When I initially created the page it wasn't really in line with the rest of the wiki norms. I tried to revamp the page to be more in line with the rest of the wiki. If you think its good for the section to stay, though, then I wont contest it. Amaterasu (talk) 11:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

As I said, I think it wouldn't hurt to have written descriptions of everyone's appearance, but that's a lot of work so I'm not going to outright suggest it. Maybe at least the main cast already has written descriptions in the novelization though…? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 13:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

I'll think about going through main character pages and adding descriptions on their designs. I don't mind doing it. I actually find it fun! Amaterasu (talk) 14:11, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough. I wouldn't consider it a priority though, more a nice to have thing. Stuff like adding all the missing lore and character info (pretty much every Magia Record page is missing tons of info like that) would be higher priority for me. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 17:32, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Episode Navigation

Instead of copy-pasting the template content and modifying it, don't you think it'd be better to extend the template to do what you want it to do? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 18:01, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

It would. I'm not knowledgeable on how to do that, sadly. Amaterasu (talk) 18:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

It's not hard to find the MediaWiki documentation online. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 23:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Ok. I'll look into it when I have the time. Amaterasu (talk) 23:45, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Blank Witch card

Hello. I've seen a blank Witch card with the spiral design present before, but I can't find it (Maybe it's a Mandela effect?). I have isolated the color art of Arzt Kochen and want to edit her witch card to use it. Any help is appreciated. Amaterasu (talk) 12:00, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

I found it online 5 seconds after I asked. Apologies. Amaterasu (talk) 12:20, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Rion

So, I seem to remember that Rion's wish created two realities. In one, Hotori is alive and in the other she isn't. I can't seem to find anything relating to that on this wiki, though. Does anyone know if I was hallucinating or not? I was considering adding it to her Magic/Personal Abilities section but I figured that I would check, causing my confusion. Amaterasu (talk) 01:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

That would be covered in the moon-viewing event, which you can probably find on YouTube at the Magia Union Translations channel. The way I understood it wasn't like that, though. It's more like the "original world" and the "rewritten world", which to me implies the "original world" effectively no longer exists. This is because Rion wished to "undo" Hotori's death. But it might be easier to understand if you just watch it for yourself. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 04:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll look into it. Amaterasu (talk) 11:51, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Media tab on twitter

So I was looking through the Twitter accounts for the artists and noticed that the media tab doesn't go back as far as I want (for Masagitsune, it ends at around 2020 but I know there were art posts made before that point). Does anyone know a solution for this? Amaterasu (talk) 17:33, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Broadly speaking, there is no solution that I'm aware of. Maybe if you're lucky you might be able to find some of them on the Wayback Machine, but that's pretty unlikely for Twitter. Or if you can find a direct link to a tweet that embedded the image, you might be lucky enough to find the actual image from there, though that's assuming the artist isn't the type to delete all their old tweets. In other words: more than likely, this art is just permanently lost. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 19:00, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Duplicate

You added a duplicate entry for Sumire on the soul gems page. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 19:00, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Oh, oops! Sorry. Amaterasu (talk) 00:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Runes

I separated the "Deciphering the Runes" page into two sections, as one deals with work by fans and the other deals with the Runes themselves. I believe the distinction is necessary. I may do the same with the musical notes as well. Amaterasu (talk) 22:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Gallery Moves

Move Gallery pages to their proper names (ex. Move Gallery:Sayaka to Gallery:Sayaka Miki)

I have a suggestion: if you're moving them anyway, consider moving them instead to "Character Name/Gallery". Then we can ask 0x99 to enable subpages in the main namespace, meaning they'll automatically link back to the main page in the same way subpages of your user pages do. (Note: I'm not sure if it's safe to actually do that move without first enabling subpages.) ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 03:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

That might be useful. Just in case, we should probably ask 0x99 to make sure it won't break anything. Amaterasu (talk) 02:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

I'll note that there's also an option of making "Gallery" a real namespace. For this I think I'd prefer subpages though. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 18:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Does this mean we should move the gallery pages now or put a pin in it and leave it for later? Amaterasu (talk) 00:01, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

I'd say we should probably talk to 0x99 about it before moving any pages. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 13:58, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you for confirming! Amaterasu (talk) 13:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Doppel Link

https://wiki.puella-magi.net/w/index.php?title=Magia_Record_Characters&curid=16582&diff=166945&oldid=166656

Though that change links to the correct page, the page doesn't have a "Doppel Description" header so I can't really say it works. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 18:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Fair. I feel that it should be included in some way, though, considering that Kriemhild and Giovanna do show up in (what I assume to be) their second magia. Amaterasu (talk) 21:56, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Maybe I wasn't quite clear enough, but I meant to imply that, if you want it to be linked like that, you should create the Doppel Description header on that page. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 06:44, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

I see what you mean now. I feel that it may be weird to make a Doppel description, though? I'll think about a solution. Amaterasu (talk) 01:08, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Does the unit… not have a doppel description and sprite? The mechanics section says there's a doppel, so I just kind of assumed it had the the other parts… ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 02:21, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

I don't know for sure. I'll have free time soon so I'll check for it, but I don't really know. Amaterasu (talk) 13:01, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Demons

I used "oni" since "demon" translates to "oni". Yokai does fit better, though, so lets use that.

Really? I mean, it's not entirely wrong, but my first choice for translating "demon" to Japanese would be "akuma"… which definitely doesn't fit for Kagome though. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 14:18, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Oni (鬼) does translate to demon as far as I'm aware. Akuma (悪魔) translates to "devil". Since her page listed her as using demons, I replaced it with oni without really thinking about it. Amaterasu (talk) 14:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

That's not good – translating (or choosing not to translate) something requires thought, because context is extremely important. Often, the same word could be translated in several different ways, depending on the context. And in choosing not to translate, you need to also be aware that the word may have a slightly different meaning in the target language. In fact, this may be true of "oni" – as an English speaker, I only associate it with the horned "ogre" of Japanese folklore. It might be the case that a Japanese speaker would consider other creatures to also fall under the umbrella of "oni". (I would need an actual Japanese speaker to confirm/deny that though.)

If you look at Wiktionary, both oni and akuma list "demon" among their possible translations. And, from my understanding, the "akuma" is closer to the Western concept of a demon. Thus, lacking context, it would be my first choice to translate "demon". However, that's only if I were translating an entire passage to Japanese – I wouldn't leave it as "akuma" when translating from Japanese.

In this case, I'm not sure whether the word yōkai appeared in any of the game's descriptions of Kagome. If the game actually uses the term "oni", or "yōkai", or even "ayakashi", then of course that should be taken into account. But assuming that it never used any of those terms in relation to Kagome, the reference to the Hyakki Yagyō is in my opinion sufficient to dictate that "yōkai" is the optimal choice – because the Hyakki Yagyō is the Japanese equivalent to the Wild Hunt, so a wide variety of creatures would be involved. This makes "oni" a poor fit since it's just a single creature (or maybe has two or three types).

There are a few other words that could maybe fit the context, but none of them are words that I usually see mixed in with English text, so in this context I wouldn't use them even if they fit. For example, yōsei (fairy), seirei (spirit), or bakemono (monster). ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 18:56, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

I understand. I'm sorry. Amaterasu (talk) 14:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

OG character description via https://magireco.fandom.com/wiki/Satori_Kagome_(Hyakki_Yagyou_ver.) :

取材地での不思議な体験を経て、姿が変わった魔法少女。怖いことが苦手なのに、自分が妖怪の類になってしまったようで困惑している。妖怪のアルちゃんの中には話せる個体もいるが、片言なので、意思疎通に時間がかかるらしい。

Or as romanized by Google Translate:

Shuzai-chi de no fushigina taiken o hete, sugata ga kawatta mahō shōjo. Kowai koto ga nigatenanoni, jibun ga yōkai no rui ni natte shimatta yō de konwaku shite iru. Yōkai no Aru-chan no nakaniha hanaseru kotai mo iru ga, katakotonanode, ishi sotsū ni jikan ga kakarurashī.

Yokai as a word used in official Japanese material. Interestingly, I found no occurence of the kanji 鬼 in either the first half or the second half of her event story, but it does get used in her MSS (5 occurences, out of which 4 are specifically 女鬼 and 1 is 百鬼夜行). That being said, the event name is based off the traditional one, with the 2nd kanji changed: 百怪波瀾 (for the 2nd one used in the word yokai: 妖怪)

Additionally, translating 鬼 in the "regular" name as "demon" seems to be a well-established practice, as English Wikipedia mentions it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyakki_Yagy%C5%8D ("Night Parade of One Hundred Demons") EPF (talk) 08:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Artificially elongating page names

Hey, knock it off. There's no reason for the magireco galleries to use BOTH the full title of the anime AND the episodes. Article title for Gallery:Puella Magi Madoka Magica Side Story: Magia Record Episode 24: How Long Do We Continue Being Magical Girls? has to wrap around to a 2nd line for me, and I have a 1920x1080 monitor with the wiki permamently at 90% zoom. Revert this and stop doing this, those are acceptable as redirects but not as actual page names. Not to mention all other pages where you did that EPF (talk) 10:06, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I would like to clarify a couple things. First, I think it's good for primary pages to use full names for the most part. For example, the full episode title being part of the page title is a good thing. However, for gallery pages and other subsidiary pages (runes come to mind), I can agree it starts to become unwieldy. On top of that, I think that including the "Puella Magi Madoka Magica Side Story:" in every title is excessive – it should be kept in the toplevel Magia Record articles (the ones covering the game, manga, and anime) but omitted everywhere else. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 16:55, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Okay. I'll move them back, but I want to communicate that what EPF said is not an appropriate way to approach the situation. Wording it in such an aggressive way makes it less likely for me to actually do what you want. Amaterasu (talk) 23:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I can see your point there. And also, please don't miss this comment. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 23:49, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me of that. I definitely would have missed that lol. Amaterasu (talk) 23:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I added the "Recent Discussion" link to the main page specifically because I noticed people tended to miss talk page edits that get lost amidst the sea of article edits. Not sure how much use it actually gets, though. Maybe it should also be put in the sidebar? Though I'm not sure if that's even possible (the sidebar is special magic which isn't a proper page).

Section Titles

When editing pages, please try to avoid changing section titles as much as possible, as that could very easily break links without any visible evidence until someone tries to follow them. If you absolutely must change a section title (and there will definitely be times when it's necessary), please be sure to use the What Links Here tool to find every link to the parent page and, if it happens to link to the renamed subtitle, update the link. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 17:16, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I didn't even notice that. Thanks for the warning! Amaterasu (talk) 23:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)