Talk:Timelines/Original/Miscellaneous

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Exedra Nightmare

There are enough Exedra bonus stories that I think we might as well make a separate page for them. Also, not all the bonus stories are in Nightmare mode – there have been some in various events as well. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 19:53, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

Dance Magica

Since the entire event is a dream, I think it's harmless to simply add it to a timeline that exists. They're not actual Dancing Megucas, Madoka just dreamed it. Not even the date of April 1st was referenced outside the dream.Sweet Beanie (talk) 08:29, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Exedra is not the 2011 anime EPF (talk) 09:21, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure what EPF is talking about, but… the problem with slotting it into a timeline when it's a dream is that it could fit into literally every timeline, so it's easier just to keep it out of the timelines entirely. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 14:41, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, I mistook this article for another Timeline article. Given the context, it's fine in my opinion? This is basically a list of video game events focusing on Mitakihara girls that we don't know where to slot. EPF (talk) 14:46, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Mostly video-game events. A few of the entries on the page are not video games. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 15:13, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

I just mean that saying it's flat out impossible when it's something so inoffensive as a goofy dream seems like it would make people ask questions. Wouldn't it be better to have it say something like "since it's a dream sequence, it doesn't impact the main story's continuity in any way." Sweet Beanie (talk) 20:21, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

I don't understand what your first sentence is saying at all. But I think it makes sense to add something similar to your quoted segment to this event's description. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 23:22, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

I mean that the section says "this system works different than the normal" and it implies that the dancing magical girls concept was meant to be taken seriously. Even in the event, it was acknowledged that it was not real. I'm not arguing that the dream is a timeline, but the waking Madoka who woke up after having that dream was real. We know that the Madoka who had that dream at that point had known Kyoko, Mami and Homura and was on good terms with them. Sweet Beanie (talk) 16:37, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

Well, certainly if it was Madoka's dream, then you could say the Madoka who dreamed it is "real" with respect to other timelines, but even then, there's almost nothing you can add to determine which timeline it's from. Being on good terms with Kyouko and Homura in a dream doesn't mean she's on good terms with them in the waking world. In fact, even seeing them in a dream may not means she's met them in the waking world – remember that she dreams of Homura before meeting her in Episode 1. (Though, that said, I think it's probably reasonable to guess that this Madoka has already met them, even ignoring the "wake up" scene which I don't remember anything all about.) So at best you can say "this might have been part of this timeline or that timeline or that timeline but definitely wasn't part of that timeline". And I'm not sure how useful that would even be… ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 17:50, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

Mami vs Gisela

So Ive read Mami's Route from Portable today, and before she meets Madoka, which on this page is stated to be day one, she fights Gisela to save a little boy, she fails and has to leave. Idk the canonicity of Portable but would this go to before the timeloop on Timelines/Original? - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 19:36, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Shouldn't she have met Madoka no earlier than day 2 or 3 in the time loops? That said, assuming the mentioned event is not the time she turns into a witch, it likely does predate the loops. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 20:18, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Added it. Sweet Beanie (talk) 20:27, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

Homura Route

I noticed you ran out of header levels for your branching paths, and it seems like you decided to just resort to using a bulleted list instead; but what do you think of this format? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 12:47, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

Warning, this section contains spoilers about Branch 1A.

After school, Madoka hears Kyubey's plea for help as Homura hunts him at the mall and rushes to his aid. Homura appears, but Sayaka intervenes with a fire extinguisher, allowing them to escape. They are then attacked by Gertrud's Anthony Familiars, but Mami arrives to save them. Mami confronts Homura and then brings Madoka and Sayaka to her apartment, where she and Kyubey explain what it means to be a Magical Girl. Day 11 - Friday, the 26th: Mami takes Madoka and Sayaka with her to demonstrate a Magical Girl's life and defeats Gertrud. She offers the Grief Seed to Homura, who was spying on them, but she rejects it. For the next several days, Madoka and Sayaka join Mami on her patrols. Day 14 - Monday, the 29th: Sayaka visits Kyosuke in the hospital and listens to a CD with him. That night, while patrolling the city with Madoka and Sayaka, Mami encounters an Ulla Familiar. Sayaka asks Mami about making a wish for someone else, and Mami advises her to be certain of her true intentions before making such a wish. Day 15 - Tuesday, the 30th: After being unable to visit Kyosuke, Madoka and Sayaka find a Grief Seed at the hospital. Madoka goes to get Mami while Sayaka stays to guard it. The Grief Seed hatches before Madoka and Mami can return, pulling Sayaka and Kyubey into the Labyrinth. Mami and Madoka enter, followed by Homura. Choice 2: Homura can either let Mami go (Option A), or try to stop her (Option B). Branch 1A-2A: TBD Choice 3: Homura can either call Madoka (Option A), or follow Sayaka herself (Option B). Branch 1A-2A-3A: TBD Choice 5: Homura can either search with Kyoko (Option A), or search with the others (Option B). Branch 1A-2A-3A-5A: TBD True Ending Branch 1A-2A-3A-5B: TBD Choice 6: Homura can either hide the truth (Option A), or tell them the truth (Option B). Branch 1A-2A-3A-5B-6A: TBD Anime Ending Two Branch 1A-2A-3A-5B-6B: TBD Choice 7: Homura can either follow Kyoko (Option A), or kill Oktavia before Kyoko (Option B). Branch 1A-2A-3A-5B-6B-7A: TBD Anime Ending Three Branch 1A-2A-3A-5B-6B-7B: TBD Homura Alone Branch 1A-2A-3B: TBD Choice 4: Homura can either go after Sayaka herself (Option A), or call Madoka (Option B). Branch 1A-2A-3B-4A: TBD Choice 5: Homura can either search with Kyoko (Option A), or search with the others (Option B). Branch 1A-2A-3B-4A-5A: TBD True Ending Branch 1A-2A-3B-4A-5B: TBD Choice 6: Homura can either hide the truth (Option A), or tell them the truth (Option B). Branch 1A-2A-3B-4A-5B-6A: TBD Anime Ending Two Branch 1A-2A-3B-4A-5B-6B: TBD Choice 7: Homura can either follow Kyoko (Option A), or kill Oktavia before Kyoko (Option B). Branch 1A-2A-3B-4A-5B-6B-7A: TBD Anime Ending Three Branch 1A-2A-3B-4A-5B-6B-7B: TBD Homura Alone Branch 1A-2A-3B-4B: TBD Anime Ending Four Branch 1A-2B: Mami restrains Homura and proceeds to the Witch with Madoka. On the way, Madoka tells Mami she's decided to become a Magical Girl, and Mami confesses her own loneliness over the life of a Magical Girl. When they reach Charlotte, Mami fights carelessly and dies in battle against her, but Homura arrives and kills the Witch herself. TBD Choice 3: Homura can either call Madoka (Option A), or follow Sayaka herself (Option B). Branch 1A-2B-3A: TBD Choice 5: Homura can either search with Kyoko (Option A), or search with the others (Option B). Branch 1A-2B-3A-5A: TBD Anime Ending Branch 1A-2B-3A-5B: TBD Choice 6: Homura can either hide the truth (Option A), or tell them the truth (Option B). Branch 1A-2B-3A-5B-6A: TBD Anime Ending Two Branch 1A-2B-3A-5B-6B: TBD Choice 7: Homura can either follow Kyoko (Option A), or kill Oktavia before Kyoko (Option B). Branch 1A-2B-3A-5B-6B-7A: TBD Anime Ending Three Branch 1A-2B-3A-5B-6B-7B: TBD Homura Alone Branch 1A-2B-3B: TBD Choice 4: Homura can either go after Sayaka herself (Option A), or call Madoka (Option B). Branch 1A-2B-3B-4A: TBD Choice 5: Homura can either search with Kyoko (Option A), or search with the others (Option B). Branch 1A-2B-3B-4A-5A: TBD Anime Ending Branch 1A-2B-3B-4A-5B: TBD Choice 6: Homura can either hide the truth (Option A), or tell them the truth (Option B). Branch 1A-2B-3B-4A-5B-6A: TBD Anime Ending Two Branch 1A-2B-3B-4A-5B-6B: TBD Choice 7: Homura can either follow Kyoko (Option A), or kill Oktavia before Kyoko (Option B). Branch 1A-2B-3B-4A-5B-6B-7A: TBD Anime Ending Three Branch 1A-2B-3B-4A-5B-6B-7B: TBD Homura Alone Branch 1A-2B-3B-4B: TBD Choice 8: While it isn't a choice, if Homura doesn't meet Kyoko on day XX and YY (Option A), or if she does (Option B). Branch 1A-2B-3B-4B-8A: TBD Homura Alone Two Branch 1A-2B-3B-4B-8B: TBD Homura and Kyoko

I only converted branch 1A for demonstration purposes. The general idea is that 1A and 1B are headers, and the rest are just a definition list – headers have a sequence of colons ending in a semicolon, and the contents are exactly the same but with the semicolon changed to a colon. The total number of semicolons or colons is the nesting level, which is one less than the number of number-letter components in the header. With this format I think it would also be possible to make it collapsible with a little triangle in front of each branch, though I'd have to investigate in more detail to be sure of how that works. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 12:47, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

That works with me. I'll get to itSweet Beanie (talk) 14:04, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

Joke Content

I'm unsure about having material that's not meant to be taken seriously into this. With Drama CDs and Exedra events, it makes sense, but Mitakihara anti-materials and Homura's Revenge are so unserious... Would we put Mami's Everyday life here too? ~ Sweet Beanie (talk) 08:02, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

A timeline is a timeline. MagiRepo was referenced in AniReco, see File:Anireco_24_-_History_of_meguca.png (left to the ballerina). Madokami's 2nd Magia also featured Madoka-senpai. We don't get to pick-and-choose ourselves what is canon and what is not. EPF (talk) 08:14, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

I wouldn't be opposed to including Mami's Everyday Life, as long as it's emphasize that it's clearly non-canon. (If I recall correctly, that one strikes off the "can't move too far from your soul gem" factoid, right? So that alone is enough for it to be non-canon.) ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 13:25, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

It also introduces an alternate method of cleaning your Soul Gem - polishing it like a regular gemstone. Both of those are technically possible if someone sat down and made a wacky wish (and Kyubey didn't meddle, which it did with APS in MagiReco and Homura in Rebellion), albeit unlikely. EPF (talk) 15:49, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

I think they should be at least in their own section. Not sprinkled between things that are at the very least things that the characters would do in these situations. Y'know what I mean? ~ Sweet Beanie (talk) 07:20, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

I don't really mind splitting them to a separate page, but… Mitakihara Anti-Materials and Homura's Revenge, while admittedly not very serious, do seem like mostly-plausible events to me (unlike Mami's Everyday Life or Tamura). ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 14:14, 25 October 2025 (UTC)