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I've been wondering for awhile, but why is Riz Hawkwood the main page name for this character? I don't think there's any justification for choosing Riz over Liz. As far as I know, it's either stated or implied to be a shortening of Elizabeth, and no-one in Europe would ever shorten Elizabeth to Riz, as they clearly distinguish a separate L and R. Furthermore, I don't know of any Italian name matching Riz. See on BehindTheName for example: Liz and Riz. Also relevant is Rizu, which appears to support Liz as the proper form. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 19:55, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- The manga calls her Riz, so it seems official enough to say thats her name. PureChaos (talk) 20:39, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- That doesn't seem official enough to me, honestly. Even an official translation can make mistakes. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 21:06, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- From what I can tell, there is one source in the Japanese manga that spells her name as Riz – that is, the page showing her profile and stats. I don't remember if the English translation really went with Riz, but if they did, that's likely the reason. However, given the full picture, it seems obvious to me that that was an error on the part of the author, given her full name of Elizabeth. Do we really have to keep that error as the "official" name of the character? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 06:10, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- The official translation of the manga calls her Riz all throughout. To be fair, the Magia Record English Translations have Tart as Darc. At least the Liz translation makes more sense, but I'd argue to keep the more used version of Riz. Maybe if Exedra says her name differently we can have another discussion? Sweet Beanie (talk) 06:29, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Broadly speaking, I suppose I'd usually consider original-language occurrences as a higher authority than translated occurrences. I know she's called Liz Hawkwood in Magia Record, but I'm not sure if that's in the original Japanese version or if it was only on the North America server? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 06:51, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- The official translation of the manga calls her Riz all throughout. To be fair, the Magia Record English Translations have Tart as Darc. At least the Liz translation makes more sense, but I'd argue to keep the more used version of Riz. Maybe if Exedra says her name differently we can have another discussion? Sweet Beanie (talk) 06:29, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- From what I can tell, there is one source in the Japanese manga that spells her name as Riz – that is, the page showing her profile and stats. I don't remember if the English translation really went with Riz, but if they did, that's likely the reason. However, given the full picture, it seems obvious to me that that was an error on the part of the author, given her full name of Elizabeth. Do we really have to keep that error as the "official" name of the character? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 06:10, 24 November 2024 (UTC)