Talk:Yusa Yumeno

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I set Yu and Shi's release date to be 2024 since we don't know that it will be April for sure. 2024 seems highly likely for their release which is why I left it at 2024. Amaterasu (talk) 11:55, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

summary: 記憶と人格を喪失してしまった虚ろな魔法少女。 悪意はまったく持たないものの、倫理観が欠如しており、一線を越えることにためらいがない。 精神に作用する魔法の影響でポジティブな思考をしている。

Character Pages

Yu's character page is much more complete than other characters' from Magia Record. I'd like to also add them to the other characters and to make them all make sense and be cohesive. Here's the layout I'm proposing for every character, but I'd like to not. I'll start working on them one by one:

1. General Info
2. Game Info
3. Summary
   1. Doppel Description
4. Personality
5. Backstory
6. Appearances
   1. Event Appearances
7. History (New section that details what happens to the character throughout the story. Alternatively named after the section in which they appear, like ==Magia Record=== or Exedra, etc.)
8. Powers and Abilities
9. Etymology
10. Trivia
11. Gallery
12. Memoria Cards
13. External links

However, I also have some other sections that I want to ask where I should place. Like their quotes from Magia Record main screen, ID number, upgrade materials and magia archive profile information. But I don't know where the best placement of these would be. I wouldn't want to start unless I have permission. I'd start with Mikoto and then other characters I know well. Sweet Beanie (talk) 07:43, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Hmm, I think quotes could possibly go in Summary or maybe personality. ID goes in the infobox (it's already there for Yu, at least). Upgrade materials would go under game info. I don't know what you mean by "magia archive profile information". Is it some fixed format or is it just a mix of trivia facts about the character? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 12:07, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

The magia archive information is just what the notes on the Magia Archives say about the character. It can be comparable to "design notes" Sweet Beanie (talk) 12:51, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

I think you should split the text in the History-Magia Record by events, it would make the appearances section not needed and just help navigation through the section. Also backstory could go into the history section, some pages already have it like that (Kazumi has it before her In Kazumi Magica section). - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 18:21, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Just noticed you did the event split thing before I finished typing this lol. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 18:23, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I think I'm done with Yu's page. I may do some touch-ups later but that's it for now. I won't include Side Stories for other characters unless they're implemented in important ways (Yu and Shi's side stories were implemented from the shop so it feels natural to include them in Nagisa's page for example) or it's the character's own side story, or maybe when there's a general agreement that they can't be skipped for the character's development (I can't think of any right now). Sweet Beanie (talk) 19:29, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Magia Archive Section Test

Please let me know what you think. This is Machine translated. Maybe it'll be better to have these be in the actual Magia Archive pages and then we'll leave a link to it for the character pages? But is this format good, or will a table be better, or will some other thing with less titles somehow?

Test 1

Magia Archive Character Bio & Details Top Left - Banner Magical Girl Encyclopedia Voice Actor: Kotono Mitsuishi Profile Section (Middle Left) School Year: Unknown Birthday: Unknown Height: 174cm Hobby: Dental treatment Special Skill: Introduction to Mental Disorders (Mental Pollution) Soul Gem Shape: Inside of a Bone (Horse Hoof) Name (Bottom Left) ユウ = Yu YU Character Description (Bottom Left Paragraph) A Magical Girl who lost her memories and humanity in the past. Her body and soul are filled with medical instruments, and she's especially skilled at dental treatment. She often behaves erratically in ways no one has seen before, and she plays music boxes by letting her companions hear the gears turning inside her. Center Left (Frame) This section shows her familiar from multiple angles. Right Page (Main Art + Emotion Icons) Emotion Icons (Left Side of Right Page, Vertical Stack) Each circular icon next to her face represents a different facial expression or mood. Normal Surprise Anger Sadness Joy Left Page – Design, Notes, and Character Sheet Top Title Yu - Magical Girl Reference Sheet (Normal State) Top Right Labels (Above Doppel Illustration) Doppel with Horse-Like Legs Hooves made of iron Upper-Right Text (Next to Doppel Pose Sheet) Her Doppel's design is loosely based on a unicorn. When Yu rides her, she becomes like a hobby horse, bringing eerie and mechanical life to a once-magical image. Middle Section (Annotated Sketches and Concepts) These are all detailed design notes, labeled by part or concept. Highlights include: Yu, Idea Sketches Horse head structure Pose when riding Structure of left prosthetic arm Upper body (close-up) Bottom-Left COMMENT Box This section is a design commentary from the artist: As someone who likes characters like Yu and Clara Beast (idk where this came from), designing Yu was extremely fun in many ways. The theme of gears was very interesting, and I wanted to make her feel eerie—like something not of this world. The mechanical motif felt strong, so I wanted to emphasize that further with cyborg-like elements and a prosthetic arm. I also deliberately made her face look different from the front and the side. Right Page – Doppel Description This Doppel embodies a distorted ego that runs from reality. Each time it is summoned, its rider’s appearance seems to belong to a dream or a fairy tale. However, the magical girl who rides it is unstable at her core and stuck in a constant state of escapism. As a result, she cannot even confront the reality before her. She clings to the belief that only her world is correct. The Doppel, which rampages within her own subjective reality, lashes out even at unseen others. Eventually, she heads toward a self-destructive end that no one else can follow.

Sweet Beanie (talk) 20:01, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Name vs nickname

If Tart gets to be Tart rather than Jeanne d'Arc by article name, so should Yu and Shi EPF (talk) 11:45, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

Imo this is an argument to change Tart's page name. I think we should use the character's real names, in my eyes its like Shitori Egumo's page being called Embryo Eve. The only thing that feels like an exception is Kyubey if his name is Incubator (tho that seems more like a title/species). - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 20:20, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

I don't have a strong opinion one way or another about which is the primary page name. As long as the alternate name redirects, it's fine. I do see the point about being consistent. But, if we're considering making a rule to always use the full name as the page name, don't forget that this affects some you might not think of. Liz and Elisa are nicknames too, for example – the full names are Elizabeth(?) Hawkwood and Elisabeth Celjska of Luxembourg. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 00:45, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

absolutely nowhere is it ever said or even implied that riz's "full" or "real" name is "elizabeth" or "elizabetta" like you keep saying. Onitora (talk) 01:39, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

I thought I remembered it being explicitly said somewhere, but I might be imagining that part. However, it is absolutely implied. The name carries that implication all on its own without needing any additional data. (We can continue this discussion at Talk:Riz Hawkwood if you really want.) Anyway, that aside, Elisa is a real historical character, so there's no argument against her full name. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 13:34, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

As long as the names are confirmed in canon, I think they should be the page names. If Riz's full name being Elizabeth isnt confirmed, I dont think it should be the page name, but I dont see anything wrong with putting it in her Trivia/at the top of the page with a note adressing that its not outright confirmed. Im not that knowledgeable on Tart Magica (ㅠ︿ㅠ) so I dont really know how and if the names are confirmed, but if the character is based on a historical figure, and yet their name has never been said to be the exact same, then the historical name shouldnt be the page's name, because these arent the historical figures, just characters based off of them. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 14:47, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

I would not say that "these aren't the historical figures". The manga clearly states that Jeanne d'Arc is definitely the historical figure. I'm not sure if it's as clearly stated for Elisa, but there's definitely lots of evidence pointing to it. Furthermore, the author used the same name. So, I think it's entirely reasonable to think of Elisa as one and the same with the historical figure, as an "alt history" story. That said, whether that's enough to use her full name as her page name is a separate matter, and I have no strong opinion on that. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 00:31, 28 February 2026 (UTC)

I was more so saying that we shouldnt treat these characters like they're historical figures. Since this whole discussion is about names, I'm mostly talking about that. These are essentially still characters, yes they are historical figures if they were in MadoMagi but they're fictional, their story doesn't have to match 1:1 with the historical figure's and their names don't either. This isn't that important (as you say you dont have a strong opinion on the article names anyway) but if we do go through with changing Tart's page name to Jeanne d'Arc, it has to be remembered that this is because that's her real name in the manga, not because that's her real name in history. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 17:56, 1 March 2026 (UTC)

I think you're missing the point that these characters are very intentionally based on historical characters. That means that, lacking any direct contradictory evidence in the work itself, it's entirely reasonable to treat historical facts about that person as true in-universe. This definitely includes full names such as "Elisabeth of Luxembourg". Nothing in Tart Magica that I know of contradicts that Elisa is a shortening of Elisabeth, nor that she is from House of Luxembourg (in fact, it's clearly stated that she is, though without mentioning it by name – she's noted as the daughter of the Holy Roman Emperor, Sigismund, who is himself a member of the House of Luxembourg). Though that name never directly appears in the work as far as I know, so it's totally reasonable not to use it as the primary page name; but I don't think it's reasonable to claim that it is not Elisa's full name. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 00:08, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

If it's not said A) in the work itself, B) as some kind of word-of-god (Twitter, interviews), then it's not canon. The story never calls Elisa "Elisabeth of Luxemburg". It doesn't matter that she's based on that historical figure, the story never calls her that, so it's not her name. Keep your headcanons away from the wiki. EPF (talk) 06:51, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

I can't agree with that. The historical figure exists, and references in the work explicitly identify Elisa as that historical figure. They don't explicitly use that name, but I'm pretty sure the names of both her parents and their ranks are mentioned. That's enough by itself to conclude who she is. Unless the author explicitly comes out and says she's not Elisabeth of Luxembourg, I don't think there's any reasonable argument to deny that she is. Even if the author does come out and say it, I'd say it's questionable – like, why would he have linked her to that historical figure only to suddenly back out and decide she's not related? This isn't head canon, it's practically implicitly established fact. (But that said, you'll notice this discussion hasn't left the talk pages. There is a reason for that. Identifying her as Elisabeth of Luxembourg is probably trivia at best from the viewpoint of the wiki. I wouldn't mind it being used as the page title too, but I can understand why people wouldn't want to use a name that never appears in the work as the page title – it'd definitely be an unusual choice.) ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 02:29, 7 March 2026 (UTC)

That last statement is what I was going for with my responses, as long as its not directly said in the work (or outside by the creators) then it shouldnt be treated as official as the name that was given to us by the work/creators. I already said this but I think its okay for the characters to have something like "She is {likely to be} based off of [Wikipedia link to the historical figure]." between the first line in text and the general info. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 12:58, 7 March 2026 (UTC)