User talk:Universalperson
Images for Character template
Heyo, this is Dom again, I for a while wanted to help out with the Magia Record character template images, and finally decided to help out, I made files for all unlockable magical girls +plus Alina, I can make the rest for NPC's too if you'd like, feel free to use these if you want. https://imgur.com/a/8zHpv Here's a gallery with all images.
DommyDomDom 18:07, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Kanji for other characters without pages
Heyo, this is Dom again, since I'm not very active on this wiki, I'll simply give you the kanji of the characters that don't have pages:
- Touka Satomi - 里見灯花 (Satomi Touka)
- Nemu Hiiragi - 柊ねむ (Hiiragi Nemu)
- Ui Tamaki - 環 うい (Tamaki Ui)
There's also a character from Kazumi Magica, Akane Sumire - 茜 すみれ (Sumire Akane)
Kaede Hinata, who was briefly seen in that manga, is simply written as KAEDE HINATA. Hope that will be helpful! DommyDomDom 10:00, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
EDIT: Sorry, I hade a little mistake, all fixed now! DommyDomDom 12:38, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Goofy Observation
I don't even know, I'm just uploading these in case they suddenly become relevant.
About Kazumi's story section
By all means, do hack and slash it. There is no way I can build a proper section when I'm making one-chapter summaries of that size. :/ --BrickBreak 00:20, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- The problem is I also suck at hacking and slashing. Have you seen the summaries on the Kazumi Magica page? I wrote those. --Universalperson 02:56, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Re: Oriko predicting Walpurgis
I'm sorry, but it's speculation based on incorrect information, and there's no real way that I can see to correct it. How are you going to fix it when it's based on the idea that Oriko predicted Walpurgis instead of Gretchen, which goes directly against canon? --CrownClown 20:12, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- I specifically mention PRIOR timelines, particularly Timeline 1, where Gretchen did not exist. It is entirely possible that Oriko contracted in Timeline 1, with the same powers. --Universalperson 20:15, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, it's not very clear in the way it's worded on the page. But even despite that, the possibility of Gretchen existing and being a bigger threat is still there, because Madoka exists and can and does contract in nearly every timeline. I mean, she didn't contract in the Oriko timeline, but Oriko still saw Gretchen. :/ --CrownClown 20:19, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- True enough - but then again that was entirely because of Oriko's actions. Oriko's future sight seems to be something like "this will happen if I do nothing" - and there's no reason to believe Oriko did anything to Madoka in Timeline 1. (Then again, there's no reason to believe Oriko even exists in Timeline 1). To me, it's just a very neat explanation about that apparent plot hole in Episode 10/Drama CD 1. Mami and Madoka seem to have advance knowledge of Walpurgis coming to Mitakihara when there's no apparent reason for them to know that Walpurgis is coming to Mitakihara (note Kyoko's reaction when Homura tells her that Walpurgis is coming to Mitakihara). Then in Oriko we find that there's a magical girl that can see the future. Suddenly there's a source of advance knowledge. --Universalperson 20:30, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- Wait, I thought that Mami and Madoka didn't know about Walpurgis-- they just fought it when it arrived, didn't they? I don't remember any kind of line that implied they knew. Kyoko knew about the existance of Walpurgis, but not when it would appear, so even if they did know about it, they probably didn't know it would be coming to their city. Besides, Oriko and Kirika were irregularities, so it's really doubtful they contracted in any other timeline. --CrownClown 20:36, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- I don't have the exact line, but in Episode 10 Mami says something along the lines of Madoka has a long way to go before she can take on the Walpurgis Night. Then in Drama CD 1 Madoka warns Homura about staying inside when a storm comes. It really seems like they knew Walpurgis was coming to Mitakihara in advance. --Universalperson 20:42, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, I guess that makes sense. But considering how Homura hadn't met Oriko is any other timeline (implied or otherwise), I find it doubtful that they'd know from her. Homura would have met her in the subsequent timelines when she was part of their team. As Homura said, the timeline was an irregularity, so I don't think she contracted in the other timelines. I'll just add a disclaimer to the page noting that it's unlikely, then. --CrownClown 20:46, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- How they knew, it clearly never says, but doesnt mean they got the information from some other source. As indicated by CrownClown. Also, if a Walpurgist Night event has happened in the past, then it is possible they knew when it would happen but they wouldnt know where, perhaps all Puellae Magi dread the date and get ready for the event, like hurricane season, when it happens. --Mutopis 21:20, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- I heard the Drama CD again, Mami says Madoka needs to train when Walpurgis Night comes, However, it could be interpreted when the period of Walpurgis Night is predicted to happen (if it is seasonal/annual event) if it ever arrives to their own city (it is possible they are just observing the date and wait to see what happens). It is possible they are just getting prepared for the even before the date just in case it happens. Again, as Kyoko said in the Drama CD, a Walpurgis Night event has never arrived to Mitakihara before, but doesnt mean one should not be prepared for it. How Kyoko knows about Walpurgis Night, it is never stated but one could speculate this is a well known information somehow, specially since they all know the date of the Witches festival. We have to also remember that Mami being the responsible type, it is possible she was just getting Madoka ready just in case it came to their town. Again, this is speculation but doesnt mean that Oriko is one possible explanation and as CrownClown explained I have my doubts she was the only source of it. --Mutopis 21:33, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- I don't have the exact line, but in Episode 10 Mami says something along the lines of Madoka has a long way to go before she can take on the Walpurgis Night. Then in Drama CD 1 Madoka warns Homura about staying inside when a storm comes. It really seems like they knew Walpurgis was coming to Mitakihara in advance. --Universalperson 20:42, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- Wait, I thought that Mami and Madoka didn't know about Walpurgis-- they just fought it when it arrived, didn't they? I don't remember any kind of line that implied they knew. Kyoko knew about the existance of Walpurgis, but not when it would appear, so even if they did know about it, they probably didn't know it would be coming to their city. Besides, Oriko and Kirika were irregularities, so it's really doubtful they contracted in any other timeline. --CrownClown 20:36, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- True enough - but then again that was entirely because of Oriko's actions. Oriko's future sight seems to be something like "this will happen if I do nothing" - and there's no reason to believe Oriko did anything to Madoka in Timeline 1. (Then again, there's no reason to believe Oriko even exists in Timeline 1). To me, it's just a very neat explanation about that apparent plot hole in Episode 10/Drama CD 1. Mami and Madoka seem to have advance knowledge of Walpurgis coming to Mitakihara when there's no apparent reason for them to know that Walpurgis is coming to Mitakihara (note Kyoko's reaction when Homura tells her that Walpurgis is coming to Mitakihara). Then in Oriko we find that there's a magical girl that can see the future. Suddenly there's a source of advance knowledge. --Universalperson 20:30, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, it's not very clear in the way it's worded on the page. But even despite that, the possibility of Gretchen existing and being a bigger threat is still there, because Madoka exists and can and does contract in nearly every timeline. I mean, she didn't contract in the Oriko timeline, but Oriko still saw Gretchen. :/ --CrownClown 20:19, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Rebellion Speculah
So I made this:
I imagine someone with better editing skills can make a better version, but I haven't seen anyone point this out so...--Universalperson 13:18, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Greif Seed Merch!
I have no idea where to put this, but I wanted to share.
Upload not coming up?
Sorry to disturb you but i've waited 24 hours and Upload hasn't came up... What do I do? Espeon 20:06, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- I don't know I'm not a mod. Actually, I don't even know who the mods and admins are. Unfortunately this wiki really only has a skeleton crew of editors. It might be awhile before someone can help you. --Universalperson 22:03, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Sandboxing
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Blocking Warcraft
I'd just like to try and confirm if what Warcraft was writing on the wiki as of the latest chapter release really is false information or not, and thus whether you blocking them was reasonable or not. I don't understand Japanese, so I can't translate the game myself, but if you have any other way to prove it (since everything they added appeared legitimate, if just poorly translated to English), please provide it. --Garr9988 (talk) 15:09, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
like Garr9988 said, i write about the Livia and Puella Care's doing, based on actual game stories. and i even write about the references - not only Main Stories(especially Part 2 Chapter 6 Section 1), but also including Another story Part 2 Chapter 2 Section 1 - homesickness and conflict, and Another Story Part 2 Chapter 4(Every section was important but most important section was Section 4 - a Taste of Hope). one more thing. a Reference of "self-proclaimed a servant of Great Will(大なる意志のしもべ)" is Livia's Dialogue lines(Awakening 3). Yes, i check main stories, another stories, and Livia's magical girl quotes when i write about the Livia and Puella Care. based on actually Magia Record Part 2 references.
Meanwhile, this Razielim do nothing about the reasonable logic. this guy keep saying "It does not matter if you quote the story" "I agree that the summary should be rewritten without the subjective parts, yet that requires a complete re-write from the ground up and I am not capable of that myself" and Keep Erase the texts without any Logical opinion based on Magia Record game itself.
i write about every references from Magia Record game, So would you kindly let me know which part about Livia and Puella Care is "false information" please? i can accept if i blocked because of edit warring, but i really don't understand that why i blocked because of "Inserting false information: And edit warring to protect false information." --Warcraft278 (talk) 02:57, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
I can only assume the reason for the block was that the user in question (Warcraft278 and btw, Garr is a boss from Warcraft so did you defend yourself with an alt or a friend account?) used quotes from the story to create a subjective and judgemental narrative of characters and groups. There is a difference between on one hand just stating formal information and on the other hand calling a character a "cold-blooded sociopath" or adding that a group's philosophy is that of "radical nihilism", or going on for an entire paragraph in a characters "Trivia" section how that character is abusing their friends. All of these are subjective moral judgements which simply do not belong on a wiki. A wiki is meant for formal information only, not living out personal vendettas against characters and groups, no matter if you add quotes from the game or not. The block wasnt about using "wrong information" but about adding highly subjective judgements to that information. Yes I did undo Warcraft's edits, but I was already talking to other users of the wiki who were disturbed by that user's edits and agreed that these sections should not be written this way on a wiki. --Razielim (talk) 15:43, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- I don't have access to Magia Record JP and I can't understand Japanese. And I have no clue how long Warcraft's been a user, but I guess all I can do to assure you that I'm not Warcraft is saying I'm not them. I also don't play WoW, so my username being the same as one of its bosses is a complete coincidence. I've been known to make some assumptions about lore on this wiki, but when it comes to anything like characterization and personalities, I would only include information verbatim to avoid any misinterpretation - not that I could check if Warcraft had been making assumptions and extrapolations myself, in any case. --Garr9988 (talk) 21:25, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. So this is how you play? You can't even read and understand the Japanese in Magia Record Stories so all you can do is just erase the Whole things with saying like "It does not matter if you quote the story" "I am not capable of that myself". and picking holes in others without any logical sense like "Warcraft278 and Garr9988 is from same WoW so they are all same"? defame other User's reputation with falsehood?
- can you even understand what Mitama said about Puella Care in Main Story Part 2 Chapter 1 Section 4? and Why Yachiyo got freaked out when Sudachi suddenly pick up the Shizuka(injured by Ao) in Main Story Part 2 Chapter 2 Section 2? hell, Yachiyo even said "We don't know what they'll do next! We should chase them when we have a time to talk!".
- In Sudachi's episode of Mitama training, Sudachi trying to direct selling for Help Livia. but Most of Magical girls of Kamihama(Masara, Aimi, Himika, Riko, Ria, Manaka) refuse the Sudachi's door-to-door sale suggestion. and even the Ryoko refuse that. moreover, Sudachi herself already realize that even the Tokime Clan magical girls only go to Mitama instead of Puella Care. Did you know that?
- You know, when you can read & understand the Magia Record Stories in Japanese Language, and became a person who 'capable of that', then you get to pick holes. Until then, please stop throw a tantrum when things don't go your way.
- And one more thing. Speaking of defame other User's reputation with falsehood, You said "Yes I did undo Warcraft's edits, but I was already talking to other users of the wiki who were disturbed by that user's edits and agreed that these sections should not be written this way on a wiki." but i can't even see the Any records that you talking to other users in your User contributions. if you already talking to other users of the wiki in User talk pages, that should be recorded in your User contributions. (https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Special:Contributions/Razielim)
- Besides, according to your User creating Log (https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Special:Log/Razielim), You make your account at 07:26, 24 June 2021 (UTC). and you start to undo my writes at 07:29, 24 June 2021 (UTC). are you telling me that You "already talking to other users of the wiki who were disturbed by that user's edits and agreed that these sections should not be written this way on a wiki" in 3 Minutes??? How is that even possible???
- So where is the proof that you were actually did that, and where is the "other users of the wiki" who "agreed that these sections should not be written this way on a wiki"? if you don't have any proof about that, it can be considered as a Lie. which mean what you did in those Pages are the act of Vandalism with Lying and Logiclessness. nobody loves Vandalist(especially who Lying others and no logic to their claims because they can't even understand the Storyline or Japanese, and falsely accuse an innocent other User as a 'Same person' without logic or sense just because that innocent other User Don't hear their unreasonableness) in Wiki, and i think you just lose credibility. --Warcraft278 (talk) 00:22, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- I think you got me confused with Universalperson. I'm not the one who blocked you, I'm the one who thought it was unfair that Universal blocked you. --Garr9988 (talk) 22:28, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- This kind of behavior is part of the reason why I blocked him. --Universalperson (talk) 09:35, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, maybe i was aggressive. but what i write in that Pages are all based on actually Magia Record Part 2 Stories. and what i said in 00:22, 5 July 2021 (UTC) was talking to Razielim. i already mentioned about that. also, what about that Razielim? this Razielim fella is just Vandalism the Texts what they don't like, and Now they make Lying such as "Warcraft278 and Garr9988 are same person" and "Yes I did undo Warcraft's edits, but I was already talking to other users of the wiki who were disturbed by that user's edits and agreed that these sections should not be written this way on a wiki.". You can confirm the Razielim is telling Lie, right? because you can check IP of Me and Garr9988, and you also can check that Razielim's actual records. Again, I'm sorry. but this Razielim guy start this first with act of Vandalism, and now they make lies too. all i want was writing the things about Magia Records, and this Razielim keep bothering me with Lies. If Razielim suggest a alternative way of texts instead of Undo whole my texts with translations and references, that could be Fine. or at least me and Razielim both blocked as a fair judgement. but i really don't understand why Razielim's action - especially defame Garr9988's reputation with falsehood(just because Garr9988 take my side) and make Lies are Never mentioned. --Warcraft278 (talk) 09:50, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- This kind of behavior is part of the reason why I blocked him. --Universalperson (talk) 09:35, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- I think you got me confused with Universalperson. I'm not the one who blocked you, I'm the one who thought it was unfair that Universal blocked you. --Garr9988 (talk) 22:28, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- I know. and what i said(00:22, 5 July 2021 (UTC)) was talking to Razielim, Not a Universalperson or You. because that Razielim guy's excuses don't make no sense, and now that Razielim guy make lies in here. especially 'Warcraft278 and Garr9988 is same person or complicity' and 'Yes I did undo Warcraft's edits, but I was already talking to other users of the wiki who were disturbed by that user's edits and agreed that these sections should not be written this way on a wiki.' I'm truly sorry for making you confused. --Warcraft278 (talk) 22:44, 5 July 2021 (UTC)