Madoka Magica Episode 8: I Was Stupid… So Stupid
"I was stupid… so stupid…" ~ Sayaka Miki
| I Was Stupid… So Stupid あたしって、ほんとバカ | |
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| First airing | 24 February 2011 |
| Script | Gen Urobuchi |
| Storyboard | Shin'ichi Omata |
| Episode director | Takashi Kawabata |
| Animation Director | Tomoyuki Matsumoto Yuuji Kondou |
Summary
Sayaka finishes off Elsa Maria, but refuses to use the Grief Seed, giving it to Kyoko, and doesn't feel well afterwards. Madoka helps her go back home. They are sitting on a bench with Madoka crying over Sayaka's actions. Sayaka tells that all that is left for her in life is fighting Witches. Madoka tells that she wants to make Sayaka happy, but Sayaka runs away, telling Madoka not to follow her, while her Soul Gem is dimming.
Kyoko and Homura are talking about Walpurgisnacht in Homura's apartment, Kyubey appears uninvited and tells them about Sayaka's current condition. Madoka goes to Sayaka's apartment to find out that she's been absent since the day before. As Hitomi and Kyousuke are walking home, the two of them stop in a park and have a lively conversation. Sayaka watches from afar.
Homura speaks with Sayaka, trying to get her to use a Grief Seed, but Sayaka refuses. Sayaka accuses Homura of putting up false pretenses and always lying to them. Homura admits she is just doing things for Madoka's sake and prepares to kill Sayaka, but Kyoko interferes. Homura uses a flashbang grenade to escape.
Sayaka is riding in a train where two men are discussing and badmouthing their girlfriends and generally acting misogynistic. She interferes, asking them how they can speak this way about women who love them. Her train of thought grows progressively more fatalistic as she wonders why she bothered trying to save such a worthless world, and she begins to transform into darkness.
Madoka talks with Kyubey and he tells her about her apparent power. She seems to almost agree to become a Magical Girl, but Homura suddenly appears and riddles Kyubey's body with bullets before she can form a contract with him. Homura then breaks down in tears in front of Madoka, who has a strange moment of realization and asks if she has met Homura before. Before Homura can answer, Madoka excuses herself and goes searching for Sayaka, ignoring Homura's calling out to her. Another body of Kyubey appears and eats his previous corpse. Kyubey realizes that Homura is from another time, and Homura refers to Kyubey by his real identity, "Incubator."
Kyoko finds Sayaka and sees that her Soul Gem is almost completely dark. Sayaka says that the hope and despair must always be in balance. Ironically she saved the boy who was in complete darkness, wishing for a miracle to get him out of this darkness, but by doing so she made herself fall into that same darkness that he was in, balancing things out, saying that this is the way Magical Girls are and calling herself stupid thinking that she could ask for a miracle for someone while remaining happy herself. In the end, she understood that you can't have a wish (miracle) without giving something major in return (her soul). Crying, her Soul Gem explodes, turning into a Grief Seed, creating a Labyrinth with Sayaka apparently becoming a Witch.
The episode ends with Kyubey noting "since this country calls women who are still growing up shoujo (少女 girls), for girls who on the way of becoming majo (魔女 witches), it's logical to call them mahou shoujo (魔法少女 magical girls)."/"It makes sense then, that since you’ll eventually become Witches, you should be called Magical Girls."
Runes
This episode made a more intensive use of the musical font. See Runes of episode 8
Audio Commentary
See Also: Guidebook staff commentary from the Magica Quartet
| I Was Stupid… So Stupid あたしって、ほんとバカ | |
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| Commentary | Aoi Yuuki Chiwa Saitou Junichiro Taniguchi |
The 8th episode features the chief animation director, Junichiro Taniguchi, in addition to our standard Aoi Yuuki (Madoka) and Chiwa Saitou (Homura).
This is the guy who makes sure that the series and characters all have a sort of unity. It's the sort of job where if you do it well, you're not noticed. He says that honestly, the people who keyframe and tween have a harder job overall. There are about 10 such animators for the series. And then there are one or two who help do corrections to the drawings.
He says that regarding the content, they all are surprised every time they're told what to draw.
Next, Saitou asks about how they decide on facial expressions since the show is big on using the facial closeups to evoke the emotions that the characters are feeling. Taniguchi says that he would often be doing the faces. He says that he'd be making weird faces (looking at himself in the mirror), but that they turned out nicely on the screen.
Yuuki asks about the wide face style. Taniguchi says that they certainly start with very 'Kyun' style smiles, but by this point, it's distressing and dark. The wide face style works well for these sad expressions...both here and in the later seasons of Hidamari Sketch. Saitou says it hurts when acting some of those sad scenes, but it must have been just the same for the artists drawing them.
Kyubey is probably pretty easy, says Yuuki. He just moves his tail around, with no facial expressions. They start discussing if he's trying to express something with his tail. When irritated, Yuuki's cats will whap their tails on the floor, and when they're interested in something their tails go up.
Saitou then asks about the artists, since they often skip episodes like working on the first one and then the fifth one...would they need to be filled in on how the story is going? Taniguchi says that that is the producer's job, to give them an understanding of how to draw.
They then talk about how difficult the characters are to draw. Taniguchi says that Hitomi is the hardest because she's constantly filtering her emotions. On the other hand, Homura is easy. The cool beauty.
Finally, here is episode 8, Homura says 'Madoka' in front of someone else, instead of 'Kaname Madoka'. She's shaken up at this point.
Next is the scene on the train, with Miki Shinichirou and Tobita Nobuo playing the role of the hosts. Urobuchi Gen pulled this conversation he heard in person on the train. Saitou thought it was pretty amazing to pull in big-name seiyuu for such a small role.
There are a lot of scenes where the characters just stop and think or talk. Saitou asks about how much they have to think about other items in the scene. For example, when Madoka is talking with Kyubey, they have to have the CG artists provide most of the motion in the scene. The fountain is moving around and changing colors. In this scene, Taniguchi says that they want the viewer to be noticing things...subconsciously? Temporarily have your attention drawn away from the characters, probably.
Then there's the big scene where everyone cheers, and then... Homura comes up. This is the real first time where Homura breaks down. It was written in the script for Saitou to express that Homura hasn't run out of power, it was just emotion that caused her to lose strength.
Finally is the scene in the train station. Sayakaaaaaa..... 'Atashi the...hontou Baka' Now it's fully a tragedy.
And here we have Kyubey explaining exactly what's going on. In the initial airing, Kyubey narrowed his eyes, but remember that Kyubey's not supposed to make a facial expression, but they corrected it for the blu-rays. ...
It's pretty interesting how different commentaries are difficult to summarize. Sometimes the staff guests are easier to write up, but other times the commentaries are easier to write with seiyuu as the guests.
Observations
- In Homura's apartment, there are a number of documents pertaining to Walpurgisnacht on display. Images of these documents have been archived at the article: Homura Residence.
- Homura's room is laid out like the surface of a clock. There are gears on the ceiling.
- The artist Paul Klee made a painting called "Walpurgis Night". Not only does it have a strangely familiar name, it also seems fairly similar to Sayaka transforming into a Witch.
- There is a scene where "Hotel Nwobhm" can be seen. NWOBHM is an acronym for "New Wave of British Heavy Metal", a genre of music that started in the late 1970s where many bands attempted to toughen up their music.
Production errors
- At the beginning of the episode, when Sayaka has defeated Elsa Maria, the Grief Seed she picks up and throws to Kyoko is Elsa Maria's. The scene then cuts to Sayaka. When it cuts back to Kyoko, she is holding Elly's Grief Seed.
Trivia
- This episode is notable for "killing off" Sayaka at the end of the episode. In the anime Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, one of the main characters (Kamina) also dies in the eighth episode. What is notable here is that Kamina also has blue hair like Sayaka and wields a sword as his primary weapon, with her costume including a cape.
- The train conversation scene between the two hosts is actually based on a real event that Gen Urobuchi witnessed.
- Miki Shinchirou and Tobita Nobuo are the voice actors for these hosts.
- In the novel, Kyubey transmits Sayaka's last thoughts to Madoka via telepathy. Her last words before Witching out were "I'm sorry, Madoka."
Billboard
The billboard that appears behind Sayaka and Kyouko at the train station contains symbols that are believed to illustrate how new timelines split off from old ones. An alternative theory is that it shows how a Witch splits her Labyrinth off into a separate world, leaving her old body behind as if it were an umbrella and hat she no longer needs to wear.
Chart that appears to be typical explanation of timeline split.
The BD version of the billboard, which is now glowing.
Attempts to decipher the billboard.
Another theory.
Another billboard featuring an upside-down girl with umbrellas.
Same billboard from Episode 12/Eternal Story
Images
Official Art
An older scan from a feature in Newtype relying on the same wordplay as Kyubey's line in this episode.
Screenshots
Homura's apartment is laid out as a clock. Note the gears coming from the ceiling.
Musical runes appearing during Sayaka becoming a witch. See Witch Runes/Episode 8. The duplicate figures of the man in the background appears to be an orchestral conductor.
The grief seed Homura gives to Sayaka.
Sayaka's healing music circle.
Sayaka transforming during the train scene.
Miscellaneous
Parallel between the witch from episode 1 and the sketches in Homura's house.
Analysis chart for episode 8.
The painting "Walpurgis Night" by Paul Klee. It resembles Sayaka's transformation animation on the train, and is similar to Gertrud's silhouette.
Sayaka's transformation into a witch.
Comparison between Homura’s home and one of the sites which appears in “Le Portrait de Petit Cossette” (an OVA directed by Akiyuki Shinbo)
Annotations
- By Episode 8 Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica has passed the original series of Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu as the most popular current anime ever on the Japanese discussion board 2channel (２ちゃんねる)[1].
See also
- Kyubey is Evil Theory. A theory that emerged as soon as episode 1 aired, and that has been confirmed in this episode. Please note that this page explains the initial theory and, hence, may be inacurrate.
- Witches as Fallen Magical Girls Theory. A theory explaining the link between witches and magical girls. As for the above, this is the original version of the theory, that may then not really fit this episode's content.
- Live Reactions - http://archive.moe/a/thread/46355310/ and http://archive.moe/a/thread/46356816/
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