Talk:Madoka Magica Portable
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) at the end of your comment."T - The reason why we chose PSP was not because it could only be done in PSP but because we thought what game console is used by the people who watched Madoka."
<3 <3 <3 --BrickBreak 18:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- ...And here I am stuck with the 3DS.
On another note, would anyone translate the Famitsu article? I've heard some people say it mentions the possibility other characters become witches, and I'd like additional confirmation.-- Universalperson 00:23, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Trailer
Trailer's been released: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JJ1JLv3UCs&feature=player_embedded --CrownClown 03:25, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
- The second trailer is remade in the official web site. It contains more information than the previous C81 edition. Yorkwoo 16:09, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
- I'm courious that why Kouko can use Rosso Fantasma? Did't she lost that ability before the time point Homura can get back? Yorkwoo 00:39, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- It's possible you can help the girls change and recover to some degree, just like you can witchify them. Plus, this game also has Moemura, there's probably some sequences set in the past. --CrownClown 01:10, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- I'm courious that why Kouko can use Rosso Fantasma? Did't she lost that ability before the time point Homura can get back? Yorkwoo 00:39, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Limited edition handkerchief
"The "HomuHomu Handkerchief" in the Limited Edition has the identical design as the one used in the anime scene where Homura folded out a handkerchief and sat on it. I really hope that people can share the feeling of Homura sitting on a handkerchief."
LOL Japan. Imagine what a creepy otaku could do with it. - Lord of the Kakapos 10:09, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Website Updated
Just a heads up that the game's website updated. There doesn't seem to be anything important, but it might be worth keeping an eye on it anyway - I'm half-expecting witch cards. --Universalperson 13:38, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- I'm expecting Witch cards soon as well. They did say there would be some new ones. SPDUDE48 10:39, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, it's been updated again, and it looks like something's happening at the Tokyo Game Show next week. I'm not really sure. --Universalperson 18:44, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
- If there's anything worthwhile, I'll be posting it. --randomanon 18:47, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
- Nothing worth mentioning that I've seen at the Tokyo Game show. It is one of many games where a brief preview's shown on the screen, among a bunch of other previews for upcoming games. That's it. I can't even find a video of it, only some blurry pics not even worth posting. --randomanon 18:22, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Welp, the site's been updated again, and it looks like a pretty big update. Not sure about everything, but under the section called "Application" there seems to be something about Mami blasting away at Charlotte.--Universalperson 14:22, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm gonna guess that it's a mini-game that will be available on the site on a certain date. (in this case, 14 of October)--84.77.58.17 15:03, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
And the site is updated again. It looks like it's just a picture, and a picture of a keychain...but I can't tell who's on the keychain. It looks like Mami doing a Tiro Finale, but the colors are off. --Universalperson 13:00, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
- I can only see 2 newer special gift. One is a telephone card with Mami & Kyubey sleeping. The other is a keychain with an hourglass on it. Also it seem they provide a new version of game which supports iPad resolution now. But I cannot confirm it now. Yorkwoo 15:09, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Music
What do we know about the music that will be used in the game? --Mutopis 00:55, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
- Nothing in particular. --randomanon 01:12, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Mami's Heart Pounding Tiro Finale
- I feel Charlotte's attack style is really dumb. I won't get hurt by it. I'm always beaten by familiars... Yorkwoo 17:50, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- Besides the video on the website, are there any other videos of gameplay? --Universalperson 19:00, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- It's not easy to take video from an iPod touch. I also searched Nico video and found nothing but PV. But it might be too early for now. Yorkwoo 03:37, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- There's one here. (No Charlotte, though.) Neuchadjinys 04:37, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- It's not easy to take video from an iPod touch. I also searched Nico video and found nothing but PV. But it might be too early for now. Yorkwoo 03:37, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- Besides the video on the website, are there any other videos of gameplay? --Universalperson 19:00, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- The game is commented badly as boring, monotonous, and dull. Some players commented it could be a paid game if it had been made funny. The pattern of enemy appearance is the same every time. Yorkwoo 22:32, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- The first update is provided today. Charlotte now can make her diving attack on Mami. Familiars also attack with Charlotte. Now it's not that boring. Yorkwoo 14:24, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Something also happens when 600 people think 140,000 points...I think.
- Yep. According to the website, it's... a cell phone background! Er, at least, I think that's what it means by "携帯待ち受けプレゼント". Something like that. Neuchadjinys 22:56, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Something also happens when 600 people think 140,000 points...I think.
- The first update is provided today. Charlotte now can make her diving attack on Mami. Familiars also attack with Charlotte. Now it's not that boring. Yorkwoo 14:24, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- I have played both iPhone and Android versions. I played the iPhone version on an iPod touch (4th generation), and Android version on Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo. I feel the iPhone version more comfortable to play. Sometimes the enemy is moving and born too fast, and sometimes I feel it very show to shoot on Android version. Yorkwoo 07:54, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
- Suddenly I have some ideas about the game, although I won't expect they will do it. It seems there is some capability to expand more stages. Here are some imaginary stages I feel wonderful:
- Gertrud. Mami is still protecting Madoka and Sayaka. The enemies are different style in both shape and form of attack.
- Izabel. Mami and Madoka are protecting Homura. Madoka is controlled by CPU, or even better, controlled by 2P if some network gaming is available. But if Homura is got hit, then mission is failed.
- Patricia. She is immune to both Mami's and Madoka's attack. Only Homura(as NPC) can defeat her. But You have to protect Homura from familiars first. As a magical girl, Homura(in Moemura form) can bear some hits, but not many. The direction is changed to vertical, and Patricia is at the highest point. Mami must jump on lines to reach her, and both Madoka and Homura will follow her. After the witch appears, there is a timer start counting down. Homura must not be killed before the timer reaching zero. After time up, Homura will automatically set the bomb to kill Patricia.
- But most likely they will only be in my imagination. Yorkwoo 17:00, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oh no! I don't want to say 'I am such an idoit' when I get the PSP game. I have made a limited contract... Yorkwoo 09:03, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I have updated this game and played it. I feel it buggy. I don't know how to choose Homura. I also can't use magic anymore. The magic meter is increasing indeed, but no matter how much it accmulated, I can't use magic! I always lose because the barrier protecting Madoka and Sayaka broken! Besides, it get harder in Ophelia's stage. Yorkwoo 01:59, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- Finally I have found a way to use special attacks and defeated Ophelia. But I couldn't upload my result. I wonder it caused by blocking IP from outsides of Japan. Currently, when you have enough magic and want to use it, press the pause icon and choose the 2nd one. Then you returned to title. There is one additional button to continue. Choose continue and wait a little moment then you can use your special attack. I defeat Ophelia by repeating doing this way. Yorkwoo 04:11, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
- There are over 2000 players cleared Ophelia's stage. The image which is said to be astonishing is partially revealed. Mami as singer? It seems NBGI have some plans related with Idol Master, which is also made into game by NBGI. Yorkwoo 02:15, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- When you get the entire picture revealed, please post it! I'd love to see Mami as an idol! Silvermoon424 03:17, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I have uploaded it. They said details will be revealed in upcoming Dengeki PlayStation Vol.514.
- I just don't know why, but even I have already downloaded the file of the game, I still couldn't have it installed in my phone (Android). What should I do?! Someone rescue me please!!
Kyoko Hoshina 08:12, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- I downloaded it from play store. I need to switch to Japanese store, of course. --Yorkwoo 16:22, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Gameplay Mechanics Note
You know, this is insane ridiculous speculation, but the way the gameplay mechanics are described makes me think we might see a new character. Or alternatively, magical girl Hitomi. --Universalperson 00:02, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
- I hope so, too. Yorkwoo 00:10, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Madoka USA
This is just a thought, but I wonder since we have a following in America. If DVD and blu-ray sales show strong numbers, perhaps that could convince them to release the game in English, if they think there is a market for it? I am sure localizing a game is not easy but Madoka does has some recognition in the US, albeit not sure how strong it is, but surely the numbers must be good enough to justify to chance it... Of course the gameplay must be good enough too.--Mutopis 00:20, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Kyouko's School Uniform
Ok, there is the artwork but now the character profile, seems to indicate she goes to the same school like the other characters. What are we going to do regarding this information?... --Mutopis 08:30, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Nothing, because we don't know the story behind it. She's been in a school uniform in the official art for the game (the teaparty box cover) for a while now, but we don't know why. --randomanon 08:49, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe she will transfer into Mitakihara Middle school if some condition met, just as Kyousuke being a guitarist. Who knows. BTW, there are something new on their official web site but I cannot view bigger images of something like Mami's witch form. Is there anyone having the same problem? Yorkwoo 16:47, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- I also have problems only with those images. I thought it's because I can run the latest version of Adobe Flash Player for technical reasons in my current set-up, but maybe it's a problem on their side afterall. --randomanon 19:50, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Translated script
A rather straightforward question: Think there'll be one? If this was for PC, no doubt a patch would be out fairly quick, but seeing as it's for PSP, that's not an option... --BrickBreak 21:30, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
- It typically takes a long time (years) for a patch to come out. I expect because tri4 has committed to it, that Madoka will be faster than most. It's possible too they may be willing to let out a transcript before the game integration if asked nicely. Still, you're looking at months. --randomanon 21:56, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
- I used to be in the PSP homebrew scene, kinda lost my track though. Perhaps that's why I wasn't considering a patch an option. Uh. Well, doubt I'll manage to hold back on playing anyway, but thanks. --BrickBreak 02:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, it could be patched like with Idolm@ster. Best way to know is ask tri4 directly since they're the ones translating it. --randomanon 07:36, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
- Know if anyone translated the menu/interface? As a veteran gamer and a biology student, I'll carry on suing a scientific approach which I'm sure you can guess (hey, worked for Initial D), but... --BrickBreak 17:59, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Visit tri4 for latest status. --randomanon 18:01, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- ...well balls, none of that was there last night. But again, I really shouldn't be surprised. --BrickBreak 18:30, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Visit tri4 for latest status. --randomanon 18:01, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Know if anyone translated the menu/interface? As a veteran gamer and a biology student, I'll carry on suing a scientific approach which I'm sure you can guess (hey, worked for Initial D), but... --BrickBreak 17:59, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, it could be patched like with Idolm@ster. Best way to know is ask tri4 directly since they're the ones translating it. --randomanon 07:36, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
- I used to be in the PSP homebrew scene, kinda lost my track though. Perhaps that's why I wasn't considering a patch an option. Uh. Well, doubt I'll manage to hold back on playing anyway, but thanks. --BrickBreak 02:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Dobokeru
"Dobokeru" can mean daze, but since this is Kyubey, wouldn't it make more sense to use the other definition, "deceive"? He does have a history of pretending to not know the truth now and then. It just seems a little more in character for him. Honeykiss 16:33, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
- Again, I don't know many words in English. It is possible that I can't make clear the difference among those words. So please have them fixed if you find more proper words. Yorkwoo 16:54, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Names
One quick question, does anyone know if the game will reveal the name of Mami's parents or of Kyoko's? It is probably a long shot in the dark but if we are dealing with some of the girls routes one can never know, but what the hell may as well just ask... --Mutopis 13:46, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
New Trailer
Right here. Some stuff we knew, some stuff we didn't know but expect, and one surprise. --Universalperson 02:59, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Live broadcast
There will be a program in NBGI's network broadcast channel:
http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/event/bnltv/
on Mar 14, 2012, at 21:00(Tokyo time). Both Kaori Mizuhashi and Ai Nonaka will be there, talking about various stuff about the game. --Yorkwoo 02:33, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Screen Shots
Some 70+ PSP game screenshots! --Mutopis 12:19, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Game Difficulty
Some sources say that the game is difficult to beat, is there some reliable way to determine this, also what kind of difficult settings are there? --Mutopis 14:12, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm betting the source of OP information is the Not-Ayase blog. The blog contains too much misinformation to be a reliable source. I've watched a player playthrough of the first loop in UST (to about beginning of episode 6 of anime) and from few play impression in 2ch, the game doesn't seems that hard but you have to be very careful, for example:
- Any actions can raise Emotion Points.
- SG can become muddy easier if the point is high.
- You can't use GS to cleanse a completely mudded SG.
- You can't use any skill that uses MP if SG is completely mudded.
- Recovery items are rare.
- It's impossible to know when to press Q-button.
- If you're surrounded by 4 familiars, turns will be "You -> Familiar -> Familiar -> Familiar -> Familiar".
- I never heard anything about half-witch mode, though. The producer said game is designed so you can get into Witch route easily but the game will become easier as you play it more since Karma Points directly reflects default statuses at the start of game. --0x99 15:34, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- I watch the video and think it is turn-based. You take one turn no matter move or attack, and all enemies also take one turn each. If many enemies are around you, you will get multiple hits. So you have to think some smart way to move to prevent such situation. That makes me remember about the original Ultima. --Yorkwoo 15:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that there is no Homura magic tree posted in the page as of yet --Mutopis 09:36, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Look at the file links. --randomanon 09:55, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- I would have thought Homura would have her own subsection... --Mutopis 10:14, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
There is some mention that the saves should be more easier, specially if they have to go through long dialogues just to catch up from where they died... --Mutopis 12:29, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Live gameplay
Go see it...it's running right now: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mdoka-debu --randomanon 16:51, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- Some recordings:
- Part 1 (Beginning ~ Charlotte)http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21096661
- Part 2 (Charlotte ~ Elly)http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21098918
- Part 3 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21102551
Just a heads up
To anyone playing from the Memory Stick, the game freezes after talking to Homura on the bridge and going to the city map. Gotta wait for a patch. --BrickBreak 12:03, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Please refer to this thread for workarounds. --randomanon 13:02, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- I did see that before, just... ugh, that'd be annoying, and knowing myself, veeeeery prone for forgetfulness. Then again, how could I expect not to suffer with this game? --BrickBreak 13:21, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Make sure to convert to CSO first. That will save you from the tutorial freezes. --randomanon 17:26, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I did that, it's running smooth. Still freezes on video sequences though, gotta skip them - hopefully, they're nothing but clips from the anime. --BrickBreak 15:05, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Another method would be to set the PSP to sleep Mode before a specific part of the game freezes. I have yet to attempt this for the part where Mami first reveals to Sayaka and Madoka what a Grief Seed does. 188.221.222.125 09:10, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I did that, it's running smooth. Still freezes on video sequences though, gotta skip them - hopefully, they're nothing but clips from the anime. --BrickBreak 15:05, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Make sure to convert to CSO first. That will save you from the tutorial freezes. --randomanon 17:26, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- I did see that before, just... ugh, that'd be annoying, and knowing myself, veeeeery prone for forgetfulness. Then again, how could I expect not to suffer with this game? --BrickBreak 13:21, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
About spoiler in PSP game
I heard many players got a lot of bad endings. It might not be proper to write them in the game page since there are too much information there. Is there any plan for these? --Yorkwoo 16:50, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- My suggestion, make a new page with a spoiler heading. This will be a subpage for PSP Game Endings. Then provide a short description of what it is and a link to it from the main PSP game page. --randomanon 17:25, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Since PSP game is separated into chapters, better create new page with title something like Madoka Magica Portable Chapter 1: As If We Met in a Dream... (suggestion) and put information related to PSP game there. See Talk:Main Page for more info about reorganizing. --0x99 18:18, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure, routes might make more sense. That's how the Japanese wiki is separating them. So far I only really know about the Madoka Kaname route which is basically a tutorial one. Very straight-forward, closely follows anime, not many choices but apparently always ends with Madoka contracting to save Sayaka and Homura resets. --randomanon 19:16, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- I think it still make sense to have a separate page for each route (chapters) though, we can always put information such as possible routes within chapter, Q-button timing, and such in it in an organized manner. --0x99 19:21, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, separate pages is good, I'm suggesting routes rather than chapters, as that's how the game does it. Plus, you have to finish the Madoka Kaname route first, then I think some other routes (not sure on the exact parameters) before you can do the Homura route. Only then can you unlock the bonus route. The Japanese wiki also separates by days and morning/noon/evening for time period (it is 30 days to Walpurgis in all routes) since that's what you see at the top of the map screen. It's easier to track than chapters. --randomanon 19:32, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm, I still want to use the official "title" for each routes (that's why I'm calling it chapter). For example, "As If We Met Met in a Dream..." for Madoka route, "Only If You Are By My Side" for Mami's route, etc. --0x99 19:39, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- I see. I thought you were using them to refer to episodes rather than character routes...since the Madoka route goes to roughly ep. 8 and I think the rest of the routes go to ep. 12. --randomanon 19:45, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, seems like Madoka's route is the only one with a fixed ending. I've asked my friend to list
first threeall chapters in the game:- 夢の中で逢った、ような… (As If We Met in a Dream...) —Madoka route
- あなたが側にいてくれるなら (Only If You Are By My Side) —Mami route
- 運命はきっと変えられる (The Destiny Could Be Changed) —Homura route
- 私が願った、奇跡 (The Wish I Prayed For) —Sayaka route
- 残された最後の希望だったんだ (It Was The Last Path Left) —Kyouko route
- 想いは現実を越える (A Wish Can Surpass Reality) —Bonus route
- --0x99 20:00, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe something has to be unlocked before you can get a different ending to the Madoka route? --83.108.126.230 20:55, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about that as I've never seen any report of someone able to break the fixed ending of Madoka's route. It may be possible but nobody, so far, has found a way to. --0x99 22:16, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe something has to be unlocked before you can get a different ending to the Madoka route? --83.108.126.230 20:55, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, seems like Madoka's route is the only one with a fixed ending. I've asked my friend to list
- In my opinion, it's better to use something like 'Someone's Route' as title because it is easier to understand and search. Also the title can be shorten. I suggest the "official title" to be subtitle in those pages. --Yorkwoo 02:33, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- The reason I want to put full title in the page name because of consistency (so game, manga, anime, etc. uses the same format). --0x99 15:43, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm confused by this because that's not how the pages are named. Anime episode pages are just "Episode 1" not "Episode 1: As if We Met in A Dream", they don't have the full name. Ditto for manga subpages, they also have short names. It still seems confusing to me to name pages for the game after episodic titles, when the game is divided into routes. --randomanon 15:52, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm referring to the reorganization plan in the Talk:Main Page. The game is divide into multiple routes with title for each routes (see above), you have to select the route you want to play right when the game starts. --0x99 17:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm confused by this because that's not how the pages are named. Anime episode pages are just "Episode 1" not "Episode 1: As if We Met in A Dream", they don't have the full name. Ditto for manga subpages, they also have short names. It still seems confusing to me to name pages for the game after episodic titles, when the game is divided into routes. --randomanon 15:52, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- The reason I want to put full title in the page name because of consistency (so game, manga, anime, etc. uses the same format). --0x99 15:43, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- I see. I thought you were using them to refer to episodes rather than character routes...since the Madoka route goes to roughly ep. 8 and I think the rest of the routes go to ep. 12. --randomanon 19:45, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm, I still want to use the official "title" for each routes (that's why I'm calling it chapter). For example, "As If We Met Met in a Dream..." for Madoka route, "Only If You Are By My Side" for Mami's route, etc. --0x99 19:39, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, separate pages is good, I'm suggesting routes rather than chapters, as that's how the game does it. Plus, you have to finish the Madoka Kaname route first, then I think some other routes (not sure on the exact parameters) before you can do the Homura route. Only then can you unlock the bonus route. The Japanese wiki also separates by days and morning/noon/evening for time period (it is 30 days to Walpurgis in all routes) since that's what you see at the top of the map screen. It's easier to track than chapters. --randomanon 19:32, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- I think it still make sense to have a separate page for each route (chapters) though, we can always put information such as possible routes within chapter, Q-button timing, and such in it in an organized manner. --0x99 19:21, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure, routes might make more sense. That's how the Japanese wiki is separating them. So far I only really know about the Madoka Kaname route which is basically a tutorial one. Very straight-forward, closely follows anime, not many choices but apparently always ends with Madoka contracting to save Sayaka and Homura resets. --randomanon 19:16, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Since there isn't a translation yet, would you want something like summaries of story scenes? Ykm 15:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- I have finished Mami's route today, and is beginning Sayaka's route. If there is a place, I'd like to write something about it. But writing all is really complex. --Yorkwoo 16:26, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm also working my way through the game, on Mami's route right now. I'm not crazy enough to try translating the whole thing word-for-word, but if someone creates pages for it, I'd be glad to help write descriptions of the scenes. Ykm 17:21, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Homura's Majo
This is a spoiler so I'm going to hide this stuff inside a collapsable table. Please reply inside the spoilers table.
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This is mentioned in 2ch, but "HOMULILLY" (click to see) seems to be Homura's Majo. Her Majo is represented with a disc on the top with infinite sign. Her witch type is 此岸の魔女 (Shigan no Majō) which basically means "Witch of Mortal World" (i.e. the opposite of Higan). Witch runes below reads "Game Over". I'm not sure how reliable this is, can anyone who've played (or have access to special BD/DVD with unlock codes) confirm? --0x99 18:27, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Homura’s witch, Homulilly: >It’s a record player with the infinity symbol under it, inside an hourglass. >It says “Unable to move foward, the witch continuously spins and spins like a broken record, repeating the same sound over and over again for all eternity.” >Bad end - Homura becomes witch, the universe ends, game over. Can’t load your save, you have to start the route all over again.
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Portable Spreed Sheet
Walpurgis Night's Name
Did they actually reveal it or is it still "?????" --Universalperson 02:21, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Still ????? AFAIK. --0x99 13:08, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps Walpurgis' Real name will be revealed in the movie, maybe something about the name is some sort of secret or it is too shocking to reveal... --Mutopis 13:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- IMHO Walpurgis is a gimmick, a reverse Deus Ex Machina of the series. Revealing her real name would be killing the character. --0x99 13:54, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps Walpurgis' Real name will be revealed in the movie, maybe something about the name is some sort of secret or it is too shocking to reveal... --Mutopis 13:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Comments from 4chan
Note: There are factual inaccuracies among these comments, some completely made up by an unreliable source.
More commentary from Japanese fans:
- I like how Madoka kind of tossed away Sayaka’s and Hitomi’s friendship for Homura.
- Kyubey also states that Madoka may want to protect others, but her true emotion and reason was because she’s able to protect and watch over helpless Homura and spend her daily life with her.
Ok, I can buy Madoka tossing Sayaka's friendship over Homura if certain conditions changed the nature of Madoka and Sayaka's friendship... but the second part? I swear, is like they wanted to make a yuri VN... --Mutopis 12:56, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
"I am going through the comments from 4chan and picking up what seems believable, I wish there was a way to quickly verify some of these:" --Mutopis 09:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- The option of saving Mami from Charlotte is the one where you retreat and secretly follow her. In other words, Mami won't let you come along no matter what.
- Once Mami is saved, Mami tells Homura she’s sorry she doubted her all this time, and tells her inner feelings towards Madoka and Sayaka about being lonely. Mami and Homura form a friendship. Along the days you can watch scenes where Mami invites Homura over and gives her cake and talks about her family’s death.
- H.N. Elly - Homura finds Madoka and saves her from the witch, instead of Sayaka, since she hasn’t contracted. • Next, is now Sayaka. Homura wants to prevent Sayaka from contracting, watching Sayaka in the shadows and grieving over Kyousuke on how he cant play the violin. Homura greets Sayaka at the hospital who’s taking to Kamijou.
- Believe in Sayaka, and explain everything that’s going on about Sayaka to Madoka. — Sayaka doesn’t contract. She gets mad at kyuubey and rejects his contract. Next day, Hitomi says her father’s close friend is an American surgeon who figured out a way to heal Kamijou’s hands. Sayaka confesses to Kyousuke before Kyousuke goes to America for his surgery. Kyousuke accepts her feelings, and thanks her. Sayaka doesn’t become a Puella Magi, never meets Kyouko, and lives on a happy life.
- Homura now meets Kyouko. She invites Kyouko over to her house and forms a partnership to fight against Walpurgisnacht. Kyouko meets Mami, her old friend, but the two hate each over due to past disputes.
- Homura calms the two and persuades them to make up and become friends again. The two talk about right strategies against Walpurgis.
- Over the course of days, since Sayaka grows insanely distant from Madoka, since she spends almost all of her time with Kamijou, Madoka begins to feel extremely lonely.
- She invites Homura over, or goes out with Homura with all the chances she gets. Homura tries to decline because she beleives that if she becomes too close to Madoka, Madoka would want to protect her and contract with Kyuubey. But her emotions get in the way, and she can’t bear to see Madoka sad, and ultimately cannot reject.
- Later that night, Kyuubey, who had almost no role, sneaks into Madoka’s house, and explains everything about the Puella Magi cycle. Madoka, shocked, leaves her house in the middle of the night and goes to see Homura. Madoka and Homura have a talk, and repeat episode 11 where Homura hugs Madoka, etc.
- She invites Homura over, or goes out with Homura with all the chances she gets. Homura tries to decline because she beleives that if she becomes too close to Madoka, Madoka would want to protect her and contract with Kyuubey. But her emotions get in the way, and she can’t bear to see Madoka sad, and ultimately cannot reject.
>Ending 1a - If Homura fights alone, or with Kyouko, or with Kyouko and Mami and not the full party, the game will take it as if she fought in the anime timeline-ish kind of. Madoka will contract with Kyuubey, become Ultimate Madoka, and rewrite the world with her powers and delete Witches from Existence.
>Though UNCONFIRMED, but on most of the 2ch players say that you can fight demons, in the wasteland. You fight them endlessly until you die. Ultimate Madoka comes and Saves Homura and revives her. Using the power of all the despair she consumed until now throughout the timelines. Madoka is able to hold only a tiny fragment of existence, and materializes by using the negative energy and Homura’s memories of her, and stays by Homura’s side forever, like a ghost-ish thing. She is only visible to Homura.
>Ending 1b - Everyone participates in Walpurgis, except Madoka. Just the beginning event scene is different than 1a, still the outcome is the same
>Ending 2 - Homura defeats Walpurgis all by herself. Horray, Madoka is saved, Good job. Now go make super homu love to her.
>Secret - If everyone else dies first and Homura last, on the top floor. Homura turns into a witch, the universe ends, since all possibility and hope becomes absolutely and completely lost.
- I never heard of anyone getting this "secret" route. I'm assuming it's another Not-Ayase made-up story. All reports from 2ch I've seen so far only mentions you will always end up getting anime's ending (whether Homura fights alone, Mami & Kyouko alive or not, etc.) About the demons, you will only have to fight with it until the ending music (Connect) ends. There's nothing about her dying, etc. --0x99 12:02, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- This reminds me, do we have any info or screen shots regarding the demons? We still know almost nothing about them... --Mutopis 12:08, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm, I'll try finding screenshots. --0x99 12:12, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Seriously, there is only those 3 endings? How could it be possible for Homura to defeat Walpurgis alone and yet she failed when with the others? (*smack my face* stupid question, the game developer and Gen are screwing us). I am kind of dumbfound that the endings is as if trying to "ask" us to wait for the continuation of Puella Magi's 3rd movie where it will pick up from what's left of the anime. (*sorry for ranting*) Refering to the demons, perhaps it is still not possible to get that kind of ending, maybe it is a DLC or requires unlocking of special password. You never know what they had for everyone especially when the 3rd movie is not out and putting into the game might spoil the whole ending for the game. Well, just a speculah and not to be taken seriously. Demonicslayer 13:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- OK, here is demons: File:MadoPSP Demons.jpg. While you can fight with them, they won't fight you back, you're force to use only Magic Arrow skill, you can't die here, it ends right after Connect ends. --0x99 15:44, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm, I'll try finding screenshots. --0x99 12:12, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- This reminds me, do we have any info or screen shots regarding the demons? We still know almost nothing about them... --Mutopis 12:08, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Someone is telling me the secret route is confirmed [on this wiki]. Can someone verify this? --Universalperson 14:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Probably this part in Homura's route page:
「ワルプルギスの夜」本体と対峙する(HPゲージが表示される)最下層で「敗北」すると、ほむらが魔女化する。 ただし、ゲームオーバーの前にイラストが1枚表示されるだけで、魔女図鑑への登録およびイラストを後で見ることはできない。 特典ディスクのギャラリーに全く同じイラストが収録されているので、鑑賞はこちらで(「○○の魔女」の名前もこちらで明かされている)。
- It says if you lost to Walpurgis after the HP gauge is shown, the illustration of Homulilly will be shown before the Game Over message. However this illustration won't appear in Majo Zukan or CG Gallery but you can see it later in special DVD. Rough translations:
When confronting with Walpurgis main body (HP gauge is shown), if you are "Defeated" in the lowest level, Homura will become a witch. However only one illustration will be shown right before Game Over; it won't gets registered to Majo Zukan and you can't watch it later. Gallery in the special DVD has exactly the same illustration, watch it here if you want (her "witch of x" name is revealed in [the illustration in the game].)
- --0x99 15:03, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Bonus route
"Of course, there is also this:" --Mutopis 09:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
>Bonus route is basically full of jokes, drama, and wtfness
>just, key things are.
>Homu slaps Madoka for groping her
>Sayaka and hitomi fight over kyousuke physically and verbally
>Idol mumisan
>super sweet homura-chun
>Ending. Everyone beats walpurgis
>OUR FIGHT HAS JUST BEGUN
>homura facepalms and reverses time.
"Seriously, the part where Homura slaps Madoka because Madoka was groping her sounds highly unlikely and out of character, unless there is evidence of it I am highly skeptical. I will buy the idea of Homura gropping Madoka, but seriously... --Mutopis 09:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- In all seriousness, Homura slaps Madoka because Madoka calling herself clumsy and has no trait or whatsoever beside being a magical girl. Homura slaps Madoka and try to comfort her for saying that by saying "even though you're clumsy and stupid, being a cute magical girl is enough", etc. etc. --0x99 11:53, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- This sounds more believable --Mutopis 11:55, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Verification Filther
Fans are not going to wait for verification and there is bound to be misinformation. I wish there was a way to gather verifiable information from reliable sources to counter the misinformation before it starts spreading, the last thing we want is for this game to be presented to be silly, or bad! If anything it is doing a disservice to the creators of the series --Mutopis 12:48, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- It's hard to do confirmation especially for the game because so far nobody has discovered all the possible endings and there's only a few of us who can read Japanese (although the game is full voice). 2ch/Futaba can give a rough overview of what's possible and what's not possible but that's so far those boards can provide. --0x99 13:21, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Majo Zukan
I wanted to post a list based on the current screen shots we have of the Witch Encyclopedia. How often do we get more screenshots? <removed list to conserve space>
- I found screenshots of all the witches' encyclopedia entries on 2ch ([1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21]), and the tail end of this video shows the entries you unlock during the 'good' branch of Sayaka's route. With this information, the list is:
- 1 Anthony
- 2 Adelbert (tiny)
- 3 Adelbert (large)
- 4 Gertrud
- 5 Pyotr (w/ hat)
- 6 Pyotr
- 7 Polina
- 8 Charlotte
- 9 Daniyyel+Jennifer
- 10 Daniyyel+Jennifer (TV head)
- 11 H.N. Elly (Kirsten)
- 12 Anja (plane)
- 13 Anja (car)
- 14 Anja (boat)
- 15 Albertine
- 16 Dora (Blob-type & Wheel-type)
- 17 Gisela
- 18 Sebastian's (serpent-type)
- 19 Sebastian's (claw-type)
- 20 Elsa Maria
- 21 Oktavia's Violinist familiar (not sure if it's Holger, since he's the conductor)
- 22 Klarissa
- 23 Oktavia's Wheel of Fate familiar
- 24 Oktavia von Seckendorff
- 25 Michaela (zombie)
- 26 Michaela (ghost)
- 27 Izabel
- 28 Mathieu
- 29 ? (Presumably teacher-like familiars)
- 30 Patricia
- 31 Walpurgis minion (bottom middle on card)
- 32 Walpurgis minion (bottom left on card)
- 33 Walpurgis minion (top right on card)
- 34 Red-and-black checkered familiar
- 35 Pink poodle-like familiar
- 36 Walpurgisnacht
- 37 Candeloro's Madoka familiars
- 38 Canedloro's Kyouko familiars
- 39 Candeloro
- 40 Ophelia's geisha familiars (flame throw attack)
- 41 Ophelia's geisha familiars (melee attack)
- 42 Ophelia
- 43 Quitterie's familiars
- 44 Quitterie
- 45 Itzli
It seems that Suleika, Uhrmann and Roberta aren't in the game... --Neuchadjinys 19:55, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Not even Kriemhild Gretchen? That sucks. We never even got to see the Witch of the Netherlands . . . There're always the galleries --SPDUDE48 20:531, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- That's because if Madoka becomes a witch, it's an instant game end. They wouldn't make it a playable witch.--randomanon 22:06, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- oh right. Do you know when'll be updated on the Gekidan Gallery? --SPDUDE48 20:12, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- That's because if Madoka becomes a witch, it's an instant game end. They wouldn't make it a playable witch.--randomanon 22:06, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Gekidan Inu Curry Gallery
Have there been any new pictures as to what's in the Gekidan Gallery? Hopefully there will be a zip with all the images eventually. --SPDUDE48 13:21, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Homuslap event transcript
Full transcript of Homu's Madoslap event in the bonus route: |
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鹿目まどか: マミさんも、CDだすし…… さやかちゃんも、恭介君といい感じだし 杏子ちゃんも、さやかちゃんと仲がいい。 鹿目まどか: 皆、いろいろ変わっていくんだね…… わたしは、何が変わったんだろう? 暁美ほむら: 何か、変わりたいの? 鹿目まどか: ほむらちゃん……。 またいつの間に……。 暁美ほむら: そこは気にしないで で、まどかは変わりたいの? 鹿目まどか: 変わりたいというか、変わらなきゃいけないような気がしてるだけかも。 鹿目まどか: だった、わたしには、何になりたいって気持ちがないんだよ。 マミさんやさやかちゃんや、杏子ちゃんみたいに。 鹿目まどか: でも、それを見てるだけって なんだかつらいなぁって。 鹿目まどか: わたし…… 『魔法少女になりたい』しか無くって 魔法少女になったから……。 鹿目まどか: 魔法少女しかできない女の子って駄目なのかなぁ。 鹿目まどか: 今、皆が楽しそうにやってることが羨ましいだけなのかなぁ。 鹿目まどか: わたし、魔法少女以外のこと何もできないから。 ドジで、のろまで……駄目な女の子だし。 暁美ほむら: そんなこと無い! 〈SLAP〉 鹿目まどか: きゃっ。 暁美ほむら: まどか、あなたは、ドジでのろまで…… とっても可愛い魔法少女よ それ以外、なにを求めてるの!! 鹿目まどか: それ……褒めてないよ……。 暁美ほむら: 私は、私は、あなたに 何度も何度も……だから あなたは、あなたのままで……。 暁美ほむら: 何も変わらず、今のままで…… 自信を持って!! 暁美ほむら: あなたは……あなたはね…… 私にとって大事な大切な人なの。 あなたは覚えてないかもしれないけど。 鹿目まどか: あのね、ほむらちゃん。 よくわかんないけど なんとなく、わかったような気がするよ。 暁美ほむら: ありがとう……よくわかってないのに いきなり叩いちゃってゴメンね。 鹿目まどか: ううん、大丈夫。 ほむらちゃんはわたしに いろいろ伝えようとしてるんだね。 鹿目まどか: たぶん、わたしが悪いんだろうなってそう思う。 ……でもね、1つだけ、いいかな? 暁美ほむら: なに? 鹿目まどか: ……ドジでのろまはね ちょっと否定して欲しかったかなって。 暁美ほむら:〈即答〉 ゴメン……。 鹿目まどか: やっぱり、わたし ほむらちゃんに、そう思われてたんだね。 暁美ほむら: え、あ、うーん……。 〈まどかの感情値が20増加した。〉 Madoka: Mami-san's going to release a CD... Everything's going great for Sayaka-chan with Kyousuke-kun, too, and Kyouko-chan is getting along with Sayaka-chan. Madoka: Everyone is changing in lots of ways... but what's changed for me? Homura: Do you want to change something? Madoka: Homura-chan... When did you...? Homura: Never mind that. So, do you want to change, Madoka? Madoka: I think maybe it's less like I want to change than like I feel like I have to change. Madoka: See, there's nothing that I really want to be. Not like Mami-san, Sayaka-chan, or Kyouko-chan. Madoka: But it's kind of hard just watching that. Madoka: Because I... became a magical girl with nothing but "I want to be a magical girl"... Madoka: I guess a girl who can't do anything except being a magical girl is no good. Madoka: I guess I'm jealous of everyone seeming like they're having so much fun right now. Madoka: I can't do anything at all besides being a magical girl. I'm a clumsy, slow... useless girl. Homura: That's not true! (slap) Madoka: Kya! Homura: Madoka, you're a clumsy and slow... and absolutely adorable magical girl! What else do you want?! Madoka: That... isn't a compliment... Homura: I... I... you.... over and over... That's why you have to stay you... Homura: Never change, the way you are now... Have confidence in yourself!! Homura: You... You're... someone very important and precious to me. Even though you may not remember. Madoka: Um, Homura-chan. I don't really understand, but I think I kind of get it anyway. Homura: Thank you... I'm sorry for hitting you even though you don't really understand. Madoka: No, it's okay. You're just trying to get things across to me. Madoka: I think it's probably my fault... But can I say just one thing? Homura: What? Madoka: ... I did want you to deny that I'm clumsy and slow, a little. Homura: (automatically) I'm sorry... Madoka: I knew it, you really do think that about me. Homura: Uh, um, well... (Madoka's emotion value increased 20 points) |
Just for fun. --0x99 18:07, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Does anybody know Japanese well enough to translate this? Silvermoon424 18:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- I added a quick translation above. My apologies for any formatting gaffes. Ykm 00:04, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- Much appreciated! --0x99 00:11, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you! This event sounds really interesting! --Silvermoon424 03:03, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- Much appreciated! --0x99 00:11, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- I added a quick translation above. My apologies for any formatting gaffes. Ykm 00:04, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Regarding Kyousuke Hate
I am hearing that there is some hate regarding the character. We need to verify how extensive it is, but also we need to know what is the general reaction and explain why so we can add it to the page explaining the cause, also there was a mention that the hate is huge in 2chan that it created several threads, we need a screen shot of one example (if possible) and a translation with it so it can be added to the Kyousuke page (perhaps fans will forget their hatred of Hitomi after this...) --Mutopis 23:34, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm, is this related to Kyousuke calling Sayaka "monster" in Sayaka's routes? --0x99 23:37, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- I heard that was one reason, something about how he called her a monster and all that, and the fans reacted negatively about it... --Mutopis 23:41, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
How did you get Kyousuke to call Sayaka a monster? When I saved them, they did not remember anything as they fainted and Sayaka and Kyouko escaped. They do remember hearing Sayaka's voice saying that she was a hero of justice though but they dismissed it thinking they were just dreaming. Are there any specific conditions that should be met in order for Kyousuke to call her a monster? O.o
- I got the same result as you, but we've seen a [screenshot] in a magazine that shows he calls her that under some circumstance where he sees her as a magical girl with Kyouko. I am unable to find that scene though. --randomanon 09:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- You get the better result when Sayaka's soul gem is not that tainted. Then she will escape from her fate to become Oktavia. --Yorkwoo 10:54, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- Sayaka doesn't want to save Kyousuke and Hitomi at first, but Kyoko says she should do that. After she saved them, however, they call her monster rather than thank her. This is what happens in Sayaka's route if she become a witch. I personally link it to the third timeline.
- You get the better result when Sayaka's soul gem is not that tainted. Then she will escape from her fate to become Oktavia. --Yorkwoo 10:54, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
--Yorkwoo 23:58, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, but I am trying to get the fan reaction regarding that scene. Do fans now dislike Kyousuke even more after that? I am trying to gauge the fan reaction to it... --Mutopis 05:22, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- There's also this Sayaka's body rotten (another Gem-throwing, thank you Madoka), Kyouko found her Gem then Kyousuke got to see Sayaka alive in her rotten body and call her "Monster". I guess the writer is reincarnation of satan or something. --0x99 00:06, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- UROBUCHI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Mutopis 05:20, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- I guess in the end, Urobuchi still has a lot of hate to throw into Sayaka. Pity Sayaka that she has to go through that many difficulties in life in such a short moment in every timeline. Even if Sayaka gets a happy end with Kyouske, she still has no happy ending in the end. Surprisingly, Madoka (again?) done that gem-throwing thing in another timeline... Though I do not really hate Kyousuke, but it definitely hurt to be called a 'monster' when being a 'zombie' is bad enough. But it is quite natural in some way that Human always despise others with great power, just like X-Men. From the looks, Sayaka would be better off with Madoka in the ethereal world or we might see "G-Uro"-"butcher" trying to make her suffer in the 3rd movie again... sigh... Demonicslayer 08:15, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- Speaking of a "happy" end with Kyousuke... there is one in this game, isn't there? (Or is such an end only possible if Sayaka does not contract as a magical girl?) i.e., if she becomes a magical girl, Kyosuke's a lost cause for her no matter what?) This scene makes me think there's such a "good" end... http://wiki.puella-magi.net/File:Picture_12.png Animerican-Redeemed 21:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- I guess in the end, Urobuchi still has a lot of hate to throw into Sayaka. Pity Sayaka that she has to go through that many difficulties in life in such a short moment in every timeline. Even if Sayaka gets a happy end with Kyouske, she still has no happy ending in the end. Surprisingly, Madoka (again?) done that gem-throwing thing in another timeline... Though I do not really hate Kyousuke, but it definitely hurt to be called a 'monster' when being a 'zombie' is bad enough. But it is quite natural in some way that Human always despise others with great power, just like X-Men. From the looks, Sayaka would be better off with Madoka in the ethereal world or we might see "G-Uro"-"butcher" trying to make her suffer in the 3rd movie again... sigh... Demonicslayer 08:15, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- UROBUCHI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Mutopis 05:20, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
In Sayaka's route, please do not blame Madoka for throwing Sayaka's soul gem. It is Sayaka herself throw out the soul gem. Mami Stopped the fighting between her and Kyoko, then all 3 of them are sucked into Charlotte's barrier. Mami called Sayaka and Kyoko to escape, but Sayaka, who did't want to leave Mami alone, insisted staying there, and then Mami got the same fate as in anime... Knowing she is too weak to protect others, Sayaka threw her soul gem to dismiss her magical girl duty after quiting the barrier with Kyoko. The gem got into the barrier and moved away so she lost it. Madoka and Homura then came and saw a soulless Sayaka. Kyubey told them to get her soul gem back in 2 days or Sayaka may die forever. Again, Kyoko use her magic to keep Sayaka's body. Madoka and Homura went out to find her gem. --Yorkwoo 15:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- My mistake. Thanks for clarifying the whole incident happening in that route. Well, I thought what 0x99 said about 'thank you Madoka' meant that Madoka was the one who thrown it. Perhaps I misinterpreted the whole thing said there. Honto Gomenasai, Madoka (and all the Madoka fans). Another thing that caught my attention, is from my guess, in fact that this scene happened only in Homura's route, perhaps meant that Sayaka was never really given a chance for 'happy ending'. Since the Homura's route was meant to give a happy ending, yet twisting the story into a Homura Magica (since Madoka never become a magical girl), I am wondering if the story was meant to appease Homura's fans. Lastly, I am wondering if the words 'my wish, my prayer' was actually the wish that Homura hoped for since it is from Homura's perspective... Demonicslayer 18:56, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Homura's route happy ending
I heard that if you defeat Walpurgis with Homura, Mami, Kyouko and Sayaka alive without anybody becoming a witch and without Madoka contracting, you will get the tea party ending instead of anime's ending one. There have been many reports in 2ch that this is true. Can anyone confirm it? --0x99 23:56, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- I also heard someone written about this. This should be reliable. --Yorkwoo 00:05, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, confirmed. --randomanon 08:57, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
I tried getting the good end after playing Mami's route the first time (she became a witch because of this Homura's route was unlocked without first doing Kyoko's and Sayaka's) and it seems like you first have to finish Kyoko's route without her becoming a witch because when you've to make the choice whether to go and look for her with Mami, Madoka or Kyoko, you can only choose Kyoko's if you've finished her route without her becoming a witch. I'm not sure if that's not a bug though :\ (Oblivion 22:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC))
- No, this is intended. --SayakaVonSeckendorff 23:22, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Original Sound Track
There is an OST in the BD bundled with limited contract of this game. I don't know if the DVD coming with normal contract also contains this.
Track | Song Name | Comment | |
1 | Spes - Materia Madocae - | BGM of Game Shop | |
2 | Justitia - Materia Sayakae - | Choose a place to go | |
3 | Fides - Materia Mami - | ||
4 | Prex - Materia Kyokoensis - | ||
5 | Tutela - Materia Homurae - | Encyclopedia | |
6 | Feliciter | ||
7 | Incipit in prece | Game title screen | |
8 | Vox maternae | ||
9 | Victoria | Game Result | |
10 | Ubi eam? | ||
11 | Quod id est? | ||
12 | Obstans | A sad scene | |
13 | Semen doloris | ||
14 | Inquietam | ||
15 | Solitudo mea | ||
16 | Non sola sum | ||
17 | Para, ite! | ||
18 | Non fieri possum | ||
19 | Numquam mitescam | ||
20 | Cum quoqumque modo | ||
21 | Forma tumultuosi somnii | Emergent situation | |
22 | Adhaesus deformis | ||
23 | Clientes saluant | In Charlotte's barrier | |
24 | Natalis puellae magicae | ||
25 | Exitus desperationis | ||
26 | Via ad scholam | Scene as usual | |
27 | Valetudinarium | ||
28 | Domus meus | ||
29 | Hora theae | ||
30 | Cubicutum coniecturae | ||
31 | Veni, ven | In Gertrud's barrier | |
32 | Diffidentia floret | In Charlotte's barrier | |
33 | Area infinita | In witch's barrier | |
34 | Dolus vel pedica | In Gisela and Ophelia's barrier | |
35 | Experimenta ultima | ||
36 | Area strigae | BGM of Mami's heart pounding Tiro Finale | |
37 | Delusio summa | In Oktavia and Izabel's barrier | |
38 | Terror infinitus | In H.N Elly and Elsa Maria's barrier | |
39 | Dolus vel lascivia | In Gisela and Ophelia's barrier | |
40 | Finit in maledicto | Scene of W.N. | |
41 | Finis malus | ||
42 | Felix vera |
--Yorkwoo 16:37, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Is there anything new about this OST? I think it should be mentioned or added on the Madoka Magica Soundtrack page. --Mutopis 14:09, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- They are all new music, different from what anime plays. --Yorkwoo 14:14, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
I took pictures of the disk cover. What do you want to know about this in advance? --Yorkwoo 04:44, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Do they list the name of the soundtrack composer anywhere? It's assumed that it's Kajiura Yuki, but the style's a bit different... --ren 00:02, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- ZIZZ Studio did the music for the game apparently. --SayakaVonSeckendorff 00:48, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- The composer isn't listed in the BD so I don't know that. --Yorkwoo 01:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Is this ending on the PSP game real or fake?
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1465010085?pn=1 <--a link to a Chinese forum which said it is the good end of the game with a picture which five of them sitting together and having a party with a line "This is my prayer, my wish..." above and comments from the poster that "[In the ending,] homura, mami, kyouko, and sayaka cooperate to beaten w. night successfully and then they including madoka held party in mami's home, and even sayaka "force" kyoko to get on school, uniform, wht a 癒し ending" (*sorry for my poor English.) Is the above material truely the good end of the game?C933103 16:44, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes. Requires Madoka to not making contract with Mami, Sayaka, Kyouko and Homura defeating Walpurgis together. In Japanese board they are callibg this お茶会エンド (tea party ending). -0x99 20:54, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- But as according to that CHinese forum post, it said it is required to 1.in homura line 2.avoid mami dead and 3.let sayaka made contract and 4.prevent she from becoming witches and 5.successfully beaten w. night to get to the ending.......C933103 05:24, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Homu Sad End
Homura's end where she fights Walpurgis solo was like a depressing doujin ending. She dies in Madoka's arms, glad she could finally save her. Madoka doesn't contract and it's the end. Course the route is completely terrible with Sayaka going witch and dead, Mami suiciding, Kyouko gone home and presumably depressed over losing Mami and Sayaka. Now that I think about, I'm not sure I've read a Madoka doujin that was that depressing. -
I have never heard this ending before. So Homura defeats Walpurgis on her own, doesnt become a witch, and dies on Madoka's arm without her contracting with Kyubey? Can someone verify this? --Mutopis 06:54, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- Never heard anything about it. --0x99 08:23, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- I have watched some video playing this ending. But I'm not sure it is unmodified. I my self haven't gone that far yet. --Yorkwoo 15:51, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the video. Ah, that explains the mysterious Homura's event CG (see below). Gotta try it, I wonder if there's any special condition beyond having Homura fight Walpurgis alone?
- (Notice she's smiling... oh god this is depressing...) --0x99 18:25, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, this ending is described on the Japanese wiki. It has many preconditions that lead to that specific ending. It is the only one where Homura fights Walpurgis alone on the Homura route. --randomanon 01:34, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- I have watched some video playing this ending. But I'm not sure it is unmodified. I my self haven't gone that far yet. --Yorkwoo 15:51, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Another Ending You can go here for screenshots of another Homura route ending where Mami is dead, Sayaka doesn't contract, Kyoko and Homura successfully defeat Walpurgis and Madoka doesn't contract. --randomanon 08:22, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Kyoko Route:speculah
Well, apparently Kyoko's route is very depressing. Apparently instead of paper cutouts they actually showed the graphic aftermath of Kyoko's father gone mad... I find it odd they went one way in the anime and another way in the game... --Mutopis 02:15, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
It seems like in the Kyoko route, she made a grave for Mami... I feel like despair... --Mutopis 02:15, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- Sad but what sort of crap happens for Kyoko to become a witch? I mean, it would take some serious hammer to crack her hardened shell of badassery.
- I am not certain, but apparently it has to do with Oktavia. If Kyouko and Madoka try to save Sayaka/Oktavia but Homura gets there before them, she kills Oktavia. Kyouko in the good end calms down but in the bad end loses it and goes witch. --Mutopis 06:47, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- Or, with another possibility, she and Homura fight against Walpurgis Night, but unable to defeat it. Madoka contracts to defeat Walpurgis Night, and then becomes Kriemhild Gretchen, kills Kyoko. --Yorkwoo 15:57, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- I am not certain, but apparently it has to do with Oktavia. If Kyouko and Madoka try to save Sayaka/Oktavia but Homura gets there before them, she kills Oktavia. Kyouko in the good end calms down but in the bad end loses it and goes witch. --Mutopis 06:47, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- What is the importance/symbolism of the teddy bear? Silvermoon424 04:37, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Kyoko's Background
Do we have a lot of information regarding her background? I heard it was very sad, we need to add any new information to Kyoko's page in the PSP subsection to indicate it is new information. Also, since it is related to the Drama CD, Farewell Story, we need to add a subsection there to indicate the new information taht the drama cd didn't cover... Which reminds me, did the game gave any new info regarding Mami or her family? --Mutopis 03:59, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Screenshots
Have there been any new images from the Gekidan Gallery recently? SPDUDE48 16:03, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Routes section
Shouldn't we separate each routes into its own page? --0x99 06:21, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- Good idea. --Yorkwoo 06:22, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- Per discussion in Talk:Main Page (and above), I think we should go with:
- thoughts? --0x99 06:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. There's so much content, this page badly needs subpages and re-org. Even the talk page has so much text I don't even have the patience to wade through it all. --randomanon 14:54, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Gisela
I thought Gisela was defeated by Kyoko in the flash back. Is this an oversight or does the game explains what happened? --Mutopis 06:02, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- The same witches appear in different routes and are defeated by different magical girls. As to why, I have no idea. --randomanon 06:14, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- It would be really odd, unless it slipped from their minds that Gisela had an encounter with Kyoko in the past (which happened during the events of the Drama CD, prior to Homura's hospital stay). Unless we are to assume somehow Kyoko failed to kill Gisela or Gisela escaped from Kyoko's attack... (I just re-watched ep 7 BD, while she does fight Gisela in a badass way and seems like she is winning, it is ambiguous enough to say with certainty if Kyoko killed her or not...) --Mutopis 09:11, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- Not really, there's several easy explanations I can think of off-hand. One, in different timelines, events play out differently so girls become witches at different times and get killed by different magical girls. We see that with Oktavia in the anime. Even past events before Homura timestop varies, like with Kyousuke being a violinist in one and a guitarist in another. The other explanation is with the game, they chose to re-use existing witches rather than make more witches, or they didn't care about continuity between game routes. Please note this is speculation on my part and don't think we can know the answer. The reason is not stated in the game, which is why my answer was: I don't know. --randomanon 09:19, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- Considering fans would want an explanation, the only three possible options is speculah: Gisela didnt die at the hands of Kyoko, a parallel universe, and It's magic! --Mutopis 10:30, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- Another possibility is that Gisela was defeated, but her grief seed was overused and she hatched again at a later time. KM 10:48, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- Considering fans would want an explanation, the only three possible options is speculah: Gisela didnt die at the hands of Kyoko, a parallel universe, and It's magic! --Mutopis 10:30, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- Not really, there's several easy explanations I can think of off-hand. One, in different timelines, events play out differently so girls become witches at different times and get killed by different magical girls. We see that with Oktavia in the anime. Even past events before Homura timestop varies, like with Kyousuke being a violinist in one and a guitarist in another. The other explanation is with the game, they chose to re-use existing witches rather than make more witches, or they didn't care about continuity between game routes. Please note this is speculation on my part and don't think we can know the answer. The reason is not stated in the game, which is why my answer was: I don't know. --randomanon 09:19, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- It would be really odd, unless it slipped from their minds that Gisela had an encounter with Kyoko in the past (which happened during the events of the Drama CD, prior to Homura's hospital stay). Unless we are to assume somehow Kyoko failed to kill Gisela or Gisela escaped from Kyoko's attack... (I just re-watched ep 7 BD, while she does fight Gisela in a badass way and seems like she is winning, it is ambiguous enough to say with certainty if Kyoko killed her or not...) --Mutopis 09:11, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
BEHOLD, THE BOLD TEXT OF OBVIOUSNESS: familiars become Witches. Kyoko does not destroy familiars because it's a waste until they feed. Therefore, even if Kyoko destroyed "the original" Gisela (if it was even the original) it is entirely plausible ones of its familiars got away, fed, and became a new Gisela. 70.81.159.144 16:53, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- FYI, This occurs in the past, when Kyoko did destroy familiars. She didn't stop doing that until after she left Mami. We also don't know if familiars turn into the same witch or they become their own witches. It's speculah to assume. I'll only point out there's a great deal of reuse of the same witches across different routes, which makes me thinks there was more pragmatic reasons behind it, e.g. development reasons. --randomanon 17:38, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Madokami
When does she appear?
- In Homura's route when there is an anime ED ending. Madoka makes her wish, same as the anime. --randomanon 06:15, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- She also appears in one of Madoka's moves 2:28 --84.77.58.17 22:31, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Dates
What do we know about the dates of events in the game? this pre-release screenshot from August says 05/07 but May 7 and July 5 aren't compatible with the anime. The map screenshot only seems to count the number of days elapsed. Is there any information in the release version to build a timeline out of? KM 12:07, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- There are no dates in the game. Only days, varying anywhere from 29 to 31 days in any given route. The dates do not start the same as the anime. For example, in the Homura route, Day 1 you decide whether to shoot Kyubey or not. If you do, it plays out the scene with Madoka finding an injured Kyubey. No exact dates are given for past events either. Only approximations like a "few years ago" or "a few months ago" etc. They break the day events down further into segments of time such as morning, noon, evening, night etc. That's all. --randomanon 12:30, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- Oh well. 29 days happens to be the shortest possible time between that scene in episode 1 and walpurgis night's attack in the anime, so at least that fits in with our model. KM 13:31, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- I should mention that the days don't really match up with the events of the anime. For example, Day 1 in both Madoka and Homura's route, you can have Madoka save an injured Kyubey. But then Mami fights Charlotte on day 7 in the Homura route and day 8 in Madoka's route. It's also impossible to replicate all the events exactly from the anime timeline in any of the routes. --randomanon 13:48, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- Oh well. 29 days happens to be the shortest possible time between that scene in episode 1 and walpurgis night's attack in the anime, so at least that fits in with our model. KM 13:31, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
The outcome of defeating Walpurgis on Mami's route.
You get this if you defeat Walpurgis: Mami and Madoka defeat Walpurgis, however, Walpurgis is still alive and Mami takes the hit for her and dies (This is where the Mami taking a hit for Madoka CG came from) Madoka then fights Walpurgis alone and the rest we know. Just figured I would share this little bit of information. 84.77.58.17 10:53, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- I wonder if this is what happened in the ep 10 original timeline, of course we dont know how Mami died, but it could be that way... --Mutopis 11:31, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- If Mami and Madoka really defeated Walpurgis, then Homura didn't need to contract, and the story will not happen. This is not allowed, I think. --Yorkwoo 14:51, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- I wonder if this is what happened in the ep 10 original timeline, of course we dont know how Mami died, but it could be that way... --Mutopis 11:31, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Sales
After 2 weeks, this title is only sold about 81K copies. It is said that there are many bugs result in no response. It's really a pity. --Yorkwoo 17:05, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- "Only" 81k sales for a PSP game that's not a known game title after two weeks is actually very good. The first week of sales placed it 3rd with 72K sales. The concern was the follow-up sales the second week show it's not going to be the blockbuster people thought it might, dropping it to 18th. However, if you look at the 4Gamer list, it gives you a better understanding of what rankings are like. For instance, the list covers all software games and PSP sales do not look anything like 3DS sales where top sellers eventually break 1M. They're all merged together though so many on the top 20 are well-known titles like Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Mario etc. PSP titles aren't on the list long because the kind of sales they get are much lower, so you're mostly seeing first week sales which are much stronger typically than latter weeks. In fact, the only PSP title you see on that list that isn't a first week seller is SEGA's Shining Blade which did 19K in second week sales, for a two week total of 141K. Madoka's second week of 8K sales may not seem that great but it is the same as the debut sales for another PSP title that made the top 20, e.g. 8K for second week sales is not terrible.
- Regarding bugs, I've only encountered one known freeze which is also noted on the Japanese wiki. It has a simple workaround of making two different choices on days. There are also reports of people occasionally seeing problems with menu bugs (e.g. buttons become blank or things look strange etc.) that are fixed by resetting the game. Some of the freeze complaints may be due to people using a pirated ISO rip which does freeze up constantly, FYI. Aside from that, I have not heard of any other bugs. --randomanon 19:09, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- Sometimes when a battle happens after dialogue the emotion value changes to that of another girl (eg: Mami to Madoka's) Now this isn't bothersome. I'm not fully sure whetever it is a graphical or game bug yet.--84.77.58.17 23:31, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, that's an example of what I meant by it "looking strange." It's only visual though, it doesn't effect game play. The soul gems go dark at the expected rate of the emotional value of the girl you're using for fighting. --randomanon 02:08, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- Sometimes when a battle happens after dialogue the emotion value changes to that of another girl (eg: Mami to Madoka's) Now this isn't bothersome. I'm not fully sure whetever it is a graphical or game bug yet.--84.77.58.17 23:31, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- Since the game is a VN hybrid, I decided to take a look at VN sales for comparison. I think it's closer to that than your average game, meaning I doubt your average gamer has much interest in buying something where the storyline dialogue is the main focus. Looking here, big VN sellers like Kanon, Air, Fate/Stay Night ended up around 146K-168K. Top 20 for first half of 2011 were all under 30K. So that gives what is a reasonable ballpark, though I assume hybrids are suppose to have more cross-market appeal and thus should theoretically sell better than VNs. --randomanon 21:24, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Witch transformation
Aren't there any videos or images showing Mami and Kyoko turning into witches?
Also, isn't the name of Ophelia and Candeloro familiar showing up somewhere?
- No, the transformation itself isn't shown. The names of all witches are shown in runes at the introduction of the scene. Screenshots of those are on the respective pages. --randomanon 08:35, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
- When Mami becomes a witch, it is shown as in the Promotion Video before. No special pictures available. Event CG then animation showing the witch and its name. I think it is also the same in Kyoko's case. --Yorkwoo 09:58, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
- So, could someone provide those event CGs?
- For Mami, there is a picture showing her tainted soul gem. There is even no CG available when Kyoko becomes a witch. --Yorkwoo 16:12, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- So, could someone provide those event CGs?
- When Mami becomes a witch, it is shown as in the Promotion Video before. No special pictures available. Event CG then animation showing the witch and its name. I think it is also the same in Kyoko's case. --Yorkwoo 09:58, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Voice Actors
- It is confirmed that Kyoko's father is played by Banjou Ginga (銀河萬丈), and Kyoko's sister is played by Mami Shitara (設楽麻美). See ED on each route. --Yorkwoo 15:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Bugs Confirmed
NBGI has announced there are some bugs in this title in the official website. They are:
- In Sayaka's route, there are conditions to stop game from running properly.
- Sometimes the game hangs during dungeon play (witch's barrier, Walpurgis, and some battle events)
- Karma value of Homura incorrectly displayed in results.
- Some times there are two same tips displayed consectively.
How to deal with those bugs will be announced later. --Yorkwoo 13:48, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
The patch is now out, and it's supposed to address all of these. Ykm 23:38, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
About each character's page in game?
Since each character has performances in every route, is there necessary to have each character's page to describe them in PSP game? Also their special attacks can be listed there. --Yorkwoo 16:19, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- Just create a new section in character page, just like Appearances section in Homulilly page. A more detailed info for each route can live in routes page. --0x99 11:00, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Passwords for Gallery
Should we add a list of passwords here? I currently have a password from a card that came with the Limited Edition, but it doesn't appear to be working when I input it in one of the Blu-Ray's menu. 188.221.222.125 06:40, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- That's password for PSP theme, input it in the game (It's in Extra -> PSP Theme, I think). PSP theme password shouldn't be posted in the Wiki, but for story password, maybe. I'm not sure about this, though. (It's convenient, but it may as well not within the grey area we're in). --0x99 10:57, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
As far as I know, those passwords are used to unlock the BD gallery. They are all fixed values. --Yorkwoo 14:57, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Gallery images
How come there haven't been any new gallery images uploaded lately? SPDUDE48 15:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- You mean from Inukare's gallery and bonus DVD/BD disc? Can you make a list of what's left? I can capture them from Blu-ray disc. --0x99 15:52, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- I honestly have no idea what's left. The only images I've seen are the ones posted on this wiki. Perhaps it would be easier to capture all of them? SPDUDE48 16:04, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- i'm have image file of all event in the game, but they are in .gim format and it would take a long time to convert them all to png since the converter is a command line program Kimidori 16:08, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- I honestly have no idea what's left. The only images I've seen are the ones posted on this wiki. Perhaps it would be easier to capture all of them? SPDUDE48 16:04, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
PSP Videos
Someone decided to translate the game dialogue and posted it on youtube, including the endings. PSP videos --Mutopis 13:36, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
Clean Up
Is someone going to look up and clean up the game routes? There is alot of work to be done... --Mutopis 09:26, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
PSP theme that comes with the limited edition
I just got the limited edition of the game (after having already got the standard...) and I read there is a card included with it, that has a code for a special psp theme but I can not seem to find the card at all. Is this card maybe only available if you ordered the game from a certain place or in a certain period of time? And if not can someone maybe tell me, where exactly the card should be? (for example of the case of the Blu-ray or game for example) Oblivion 21:43, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- I have that card. It is in the box and not from some certain place. --Yorkwoo 14:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
PSP Portrait Assets
- PSP character portrait files, eyes and mouths are all separate for each base portrait: PSP Portrait Assets
- Samples of fan pasting of character portraits assets [22]
- [complete portrait http://www.mediafire.com/?y977a3rwamhw6mq]
- [23]
- madoka and sayaka
Special Edition Items
Am I right to assume that these items do in fact come with the Special Edition package of the game? I want to get the game, but only if it includes these items:
- Special video: I will be pretty happy if I have some cookies.
- Video of VA interviews
- Special gallery from Gekidan Inu Curry
- Illustration gallery by entering password
- Game OST
- Original wallpaper for PS3
- Original wallpaper for PC
- Character introduction gallery
:Yes, they are. But they are on the same BD, which is the only one disk. --Yorkwoo 06:15, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Ability trees
I was wondering if anyone has these in SVG format? I'm referring to the trees at the very end of the gallery on this page. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 22:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)