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*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1]] (January 18, 2011–February 27, 2011)
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1]] (January 18, 2011–February 27, 2011)
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2]] (February 28, 2011-April 25, 2011)
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3]] (April 25, 2011-March 14, 2012)
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4]] (March 15, 2012-April 27, 2017)
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5]] (April 27, 2017–September 19, 2017)
*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6]] (September 20, 2017–September 16, 2023)
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== Note about new accounts ==
== Main Page cleanup ==
 
I've taken the liberty to clean up the Main Page styling a little. It's using the same layout as before, but with more consistent spacing/etc. so it looks a lot less cluttered. It's also now and a lot less broken when viewing on a mobile phone. Adding/removing columns should now be a lot less insane. I'm unsure what to do with the News/Wishlist links, though, since they haven't been updated for quite a long time. -- [[User:0x99|0x99]] ([[User talk:0x99|talk]]) 10:13, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 
: The News page could probably be updated by trawling the Main Page edit history, and maybe adding other bits if you can think of them. With some work it could even be arranged so that it's the ''source'' of the news on the main page (wrapping the lines that should be on the main page in <nowiki><onlyinclude></nowiki> tags). ~ [[User:Celtic Minstrel|Celtic Minstrel]] ([[User talk:Celtic Minstrel|talk]]) 13:33, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 
:: Good idea. I'll find some time to do it. -- [[User:0x99|0x99]] ([[User talk:0x99|talk]]) 13:49, 16 September 2023 (UTC)


Don't you think the note about new accounts doesn't go well with the rest of the design the way it is now? I think we should think of a way to include it in the page in a more "natural" way. Maybe put it right under the wishlist reminder? --[[User:Homerun-chan|Homerun-chan]] 20:11, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
:: I did this, seems to work great. Now to populate 2015 to 2021... -- [[User:0x99|0x99]] ([[User talk:0x99|talk]]) 12:42, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
:I'm not sure that would looks noticeable enough, but if I put a box over the change current design it would looks too intrusive. I'll do what you suggest and see if someone complains. --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 20:13, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
::I don't think it SHOULD be noticeable, in my opinion, it should be placed under the "What is Puella Magi Madoka Magica? "NOTE: Due to spamming, only accounts that are at least one day old are allowed to create new pages or upload files." --[[User:Madokaanon|Madokaanon]] 20:16, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Better now? --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 20:21, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Now that I think about it, shouldn't it be possible to add that notice directly somewhere in the subscription process? So that you see the note when you create your account (after all, it's the only moment when you really need it, all visitors don't need to see that at all times). Anyway, it's still better now IMO, thanks for the change. --[[User:Homerun-chan|Homerun-chan]] 20:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Unfortunately, it's not possible to edit the account creation page without writing custom extension for it. I'll look if I can do something. --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 20:42, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


== File uploads ==
::: That's slightly different from my thought, but it's probably easier to work with this way anyway. ~ [[User:Celtic Minstrel|Celtic Minstrel]] ([[User talk:Celtic Minstrel|talk]]) 15:07, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


Since image files are now stored on a separate server (because bandwidth usage skyrocketed recently) it will take up to 5 minutes for ''new version'' of image uploads to appear on the site. I've put a bit of mechanism so that new uploads don't require a wait, but that mechanism doesn't work when replacing a file. So for the time being, please wait up to five minutes when uploading a new version. --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 22:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
== Main visual ==
:Just noticed GIF resizing was broken; fixed that already. --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 01:31, 1 March 2011 (UTC)


== Fanarts ==
Would it be worthwhile to add the Scene0 main visual to the main page, too? I think a tabber would work for the desktop view, and on mobile there should be enough space to add it below Rising's. [[User:EPF|EPF]] ([[User talk:EPF|talk]]) 13:07, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
: I've made some adjustments, what do you think? -- [[User:0x99|0x99]] ([[User talk:0x99|talk]]) 13:18, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
:: I'm not sure… I've been so used to seeing the name beside the key visual and now it's moved below it… I can't find any real complaints though… ~ [[User:Celtic Minstrel|Celtic Minstrel]] ([[User talk:Celtic Minstrel|talk]]) 15:07, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
::: OK, let's try again. What about this one? -- [[User:0x99|0x99]] ([[User talk:0x99|talk]]) 15:16, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
:::: Oooh, I like it! Thanks [[User:EPF|EPF]] ([[User talk:EPF|talk]]) 15:30, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


OK, so we are not supposed to include fanart in character gallery. That's reasonable, sorry about that. But... what are we doing with those images? They are currently linked on talk pages' "I want them preserved" sections, but... is that really suitable? Yes, I agree that fanarts shouldn't be too obtrusive as being not canon, or non even speculahs, but I think they are worth preserving, and many visitors may be interested in them. But talk pages are something that really has to be dug up to discover.
==Not sure where to put this==


So what do we do, then? Create another sections named "Fanarts" on character pages? Make a section on the [[Media]] page? Or just leave them on talk pages? --[[User:KFYatek|KFYatek]] 02:20, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
So... I'm not sure why I'm not an autoconfirmed user, but I don't know where to put this question? -- [[User talk:ReiAyanami|ReiAyanami]]
:The "I want them preserved" section was created by [[User:Saveol2009]], but I put your image there so that it's easier to keep track of images uploaded (for the time being). Personally, I believe fanarts are better preserved in an image repository, like Danbooru, since identifying source or artist is easier that way. --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 02:34, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
:I think you may need to wait few more hours. Autoconfirm is set to 3 edits and 7 days from the date of registration. From what I see, you should get autoconfirmed today (Nov 7) at 20:18:23 (UTC) -- [[User:0x99|0x99]] ([[User talk:0x99|talk]]) 14:30, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
::OK, but we can have links to Danbooru or anything like that. Images hosted locally vs. links to original locations is another problem, but it doesn't affect the question - where to put them? --[[User:KFYatek|KFYatek]] 02:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
::Alright, thank you! I didn't realize it was so exact. :) [[User:ReiAyanami|ReiAyanami]] ([[User talk:ReiAyanami|talk]]) 19:28, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:::I don't think we should directly include them in wiki at all. Putting a link to characters tag  in each character page should be enough. (In external links section, with a wording like "''Kyubey'' at Danbooru image repository" or "''Kyubey'' at Pixiv image repository".) --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 03:00, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Sorry for this, we used to have a lot of spam back in the day (who made a few edits to get autoconfirmed then proceeded on creating an SEO spam page). -- [[User:0x99|0x99]] ([[User talk:0x99|talk]]) 21:07, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
::::Sounds reasonable. Got it, thanks for clarification. --[[User:KFYatek|KFYatek]] 03:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
::::just noticed this entry. i think they are better to exist in the form of original content on /a/ and not even worth on storing it on your hard drive because really are we going back to that folder to appreciate those images again or more likely they are just going to sit there.  
::::props for this section [http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Threads#Non-general_threads here]. had a good read --[[User:Saveol2009|Saveol2009]] 21:16, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
:::::Especially now that you've deleted all the "I want them preserved" sections on talk pages, there's quite a number of fanarts which are uploaded here, but not linked ''anywhere'', not even on talk pages (see [[Special:UnusedFiles]]). Shouldn't the admins delete them, not to waste server disk space, now that they're officially considered unwanted? Oh and by the way, maybe put some disclaimer on the upload page (if possible), something like ''"Please do not upload fan art images, unless they contain viable interpretation or speculation information"''? --[[User:KFYatek|KFYatek]] 00:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)


== TV Tropes ==
== Future of Fanworks ==


the website [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica tvtropes.org] has a list of typical anime characteristics for each character --[[Special:Contributions/88.130.216.36|88.130.216.36]] 12:59, 1 March 2011
'''(This was originally on my talk page but I have moved it here as it concerns the whole wiki.)''' While not an official Wiki, this is a Wiki for official content. Outside of personal OC's on the user's pages, is there a reason to include fanworks on the wiki? Fan roleplays have long since died, and many games are likely dead due to flash player shutting down. Is there a reason to have them? [[User:Amaterasu|Amaterasu]] ([[User talk:Amaterasu|talk]]) 17:24, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
:Added. Though I think it better fit in [[Main Page]]. --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 20:24, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
:I think it's best to keep what we have now as an archive rather than remove it since they were a part of the fanbase during the early days. We keep [[Poorfag]]'s page up for a reason since it was a meme thing and it doesn't interfere with official pages much like OCs on our user pages. As long as they're kept separate from the official stuff, I think it's ok. I believe you can still play the games even though flash player shut down, I remember there being a big project to archive and make old flash games playable when the shut down was initially announced. -[[User:The Witch&#39;s House|The Witch&#39;s House]] ([[User talk:The Witch&#39;s House|talk]]) 02:34, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
::I'm also very much agree with this. For a more early meme and such we could make a banner that this was part of the community in the early days and are no longer updated. For ongoing content such as [[Fanworks]] I think the list of games/media/crossover are still worth keeping (and possibly updating). --- [[User:0x99|0x99]] ([[User talk:0x99|talk]]) 06:39, 23 December 2023 (UTC)


== BPO ==
== GunsGirlZ Crossover ==


The Broadcasting Ethics & Program Improvement Organization (放送倫理・番組向上機構), a Japanese media watchdog group, has launched a complaint at Madoka Magica for Mami's death scene in Episode 3 ([http://blog.livedoor.jp/dqnplus/archives/1602552.html See archived 2ch thread]). Not really sure where to put this? --[[User:Fallacies|Fallacies]] 18:10, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
So I have been just looking around the wiki, and I stumbled across the crossover page! I read it, expecting it to have the GGZ collab in it... but it wasn't there? I was wondering if it just hadn't been added yet, or if theres a reason that it hasn't been! The GGZ collab is probably my favorite PMMM collab, with the battle cats coming in second :P
:Correction: It's not BPO that complaint about it, it is some idiot file a complaint to BPO using Urobuchi's tweet (about his Sai-Zen-Sen Selections, not related to Madoka) and some news site picked it up. --[[User:0x99|0x99]] 18:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
::Ah, My bad. ^^; --[[User:Fallacies|Fallacies]] 20:00, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
[[User:MadoLily|madolily .+*]] ([[User talk:MadoLily|talk]]) 17:54, 21 March 2024 (UTC)♥
:Honestly it just hasnt been updated. you're more than welcome to add the info if you'd like (I dont play it unfortunately but it looked cute!)[[User:Sondenise|Sondenise]] ([[User talk:Sondenise|talk]]) 21:56, 21 March 2024 (UTC)


== Postponements ==
::I can't see anything about the crossover on the page you linked to. You should link not to the other wiki's main page but to a page actually talking about the crossover. Otherwise there's no point in adding the link at all. ~ [[User:Celtic Minstrel|Celtic Minstrel]] ([[User talk:Celtic Minstrel|talk]]) 02:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


Since Episode 10 has already aired on NicoNico, I think we should change that frame to Episode 11. Does anyone know if it's scheduled on some concrete date, or is just indefinitely postponed like the TV broadcasts? --[[User:KFYatek|KFYatek]] 14:19, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
:As 0x99 said in his revision note, the best thing to do is probably leave this page untouched for now, and only update it when we have official information. What aired yesterday wasn't the general live stream (but the "channel" stream, restricted by location), and besides, it would be surprising if they broadcast episode 11 on nicovideo (wednesday) before MBS (thursday). So tl;dr let's wait and see. --[[User:Homerun-chan|Homerun-chan]] 16:15, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
::What about like that? --[[User:KFYatek|KFYatek]] 17:41, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Yes, I think this is the best we can do for now. No implication or misleading whatsoever. --[[User:Homerun-chan|Homerun-chan]] 18:21, 17 March 2011 (UTC)


== Background image ==
Oh, sorry about that. The link broke... Sadly since the computer I use is limited by my school I can't fix the link,, I'm sorry haha
[[User:MadoLily|madolily .+*]] ([[User talk:MadoLily|talk]])♥


Will it ever include Kyouko?  Just wondering... [[User:Oatmeal|Oatmeal]] 20:38, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
:Looks like someone else fixed it for you, so it's okay. ~ [[User:Celtic Minstrel|Celtic Minstrel]] ([[User talk:Celtic Minstrel|talk]]) 17:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:33, 26 March 2024

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Previous discussions are archived at:

Main Page cleanup

I've taken the liberty to clean up the Main Page styling a little. It's using the same layout as before, but with more consistent spacing/etc. so it looks a lot less cluttered. It's also now and a lot less broken when viewing on a mobile phone. Adding/removing columns should now be a lot less insane. I'm unsure what to do with the News/Wishlist links, though, since they haven't been updated for quite a long time. -- 0x99 (talk) 10:13, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

The News page could probably be updated by trawling the Main Page edit history, and maybe adding other bits if you can think of them. With some work it could even be arranged so that it's the source of the news on the main page (wrapping the lines that should be on the main page in <onlyinclude> tags). ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 13:33, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
Good idea. I'll find some time to do it. -- 0x99 (talk) 13:49, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
I did this, seems to work great. Now to populate 2015 to 2021... -- 0x99 (talk) 12:42, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
That's slightly different from my thought, but it's probably easier to work with this way anyway. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 15:07, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Main visual

Would it be worthwhile to add the Scene0 main visual to the main page, too? I think a tabber would work for the desktop view, and on mobile there should be enough space to add it below Rising's. EPF (talk) 13:07, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

I've made some adjustments, what do you think? -- 0x99 (talk) 13:18, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
I'm not sure… I've been so used to seeing the name beside the key visual and now it's moved below it… I can't find any real complaints though… ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 15:07, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
OK, let's try again. What about this one? -- 0x99 (talk) 15:16, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Oooh, I like it! Thanks EPF (talk) 15:30, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Not sure where to put this

So... I'm not sure why I'm not an autoconfirmed user, but I don't know where to put this question? -- ReiAyanami

I think you may need to wait few more hours. Autoconfirm is set to 3 edits and 7 days from the date of registration. From what I see, you should get autoconfirmed today (Nov 7) at 20:18:23 (UTC) -- 0x99 (talk) 14:30, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Alright, thank you! I didn't realize it was so exact. :) ReiAyanami (talk) 19:28, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Sorry for this, we used to have a lot of spam back in the day (who made a few edits to get autoconfirmed then proceeded on creating an SEO spam page). -- 0x99 (talk) 21:07, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Future of Fanworks

(This was originally on my talk page but I have moved it here as it concerns the whole wiki.) While not an official Wiki, this is a Wiki for official content. Outside of personal OC's on the user's pages, is there a reason to include fanworks on the wiki? Fan roleplays have long since died, and many games are likely dead due to flash player shutting down. Is there a reason to have them? Amaterasu (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

I think it's best to keep what we have now as an archive rather than remove it since they were a part of the fanbase during the early days. We keep Poorfag's page up for a reason since it was a meme thing and it doesn't interfere with official pages much like OCs on our user pages. As long as they're kept separate from the official stuff, I think it's ok. I believe you can still play the games even though flash player shut down, I remember there being a big project to archive and make old flash games playable when the shut down was initially announced. -The Witch's House (talk) 02:34, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
I'm also very much agree with this. For a more early meme and such we could make a banner that this was part of the community in the early days and are no longer updated. For ongoing content such as Fanworks I think the list of games/media/crossover are still worth keeping (and possibly updating). --- 0x99 (talk) 06:39, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

GunsGirlZ Crossover

So I have been just looking around the wiki, and I stumbled across the crossover page! I read it, expecting it to have the GGZ collab in it... but it wasn't there? I was wondering if it just hadn't been added yet, or if theres a reason that it hasn't been! The GGZ collab is probably my favorite PMMM collab, with the battle cats coming in second :P

madolily .+* (talk) 17:54, 21 March 2024 (UTC)♥

Honestly it just hasnt been updated. you're more than welcome to add the info if you'd like (I dont play it unfortunately but it looked cute!)Sondenise (talk) 21:56, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
I can't see anything about the crossover on the page you linked to. You should link not to the other wiki's main page but to a page actually talking about the crossover. Otherwise there's no point in adding the link at all. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 02:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


Oh, sorry about that. The link broke... Sadly since the computer I use is limited by my school I can't fix the link,, I'm sorry haha madolily .+* (talk)♥

Looks like someone else fixed it for you, so it's okay. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 17:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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