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Keep track of items for sale on Amazon JP? See links on main page for now. Perhaps an admin would like to tack on referrer codes?

What do you mean exactly? Create a page with all the products and links to the Amazon page?
That's basically what I meant. By referrer codes I meant this Oatmeal 10:31, 18 January 2011 (CST)

Fanarts

Do we, will we, have any restriction on posting fanart in character galleries? (bandwidth, legal, otherwise?) --Sayaka 13:14, 21 January 2011 (CST)

Did not notice this post, I don't think we should include fanarts in wiki. --0x99 22:12, 25 February 2011 (UCT)

Review?

Just wondering, is there any point in keeping the changes that have been done in the wishlist? Easier review? --Homerun-chan 22:08, 25 February 2011 (UCT)

Yup. So that you can know someone has already finished this task, rather than it being removed from the wishlist for unknown reason. Cleanup after a week should be enough. --0x99 22:12, 25 February 2011 (UCT)

Theories illustrations

The theories that still need some illustrations are :

--Homerun-chan 17:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Done Prima 05:10, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Remove false character speculahs?

"Clean speculah section in character pages and remove those proven false by canon." - why should we delete them? I think what has been speculated is somewhat valuable information. Just like we still have false speculahs on Theories page, I think we should keep false speculahs on character pages, just mark them with red X's or maybe even move into separate sections ("Speculations proven wrong") or something like that.
But yeah, I agree that it needs cleaning either way... --KFYatek 14:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Going over the character pages, it looks like the only ones that really need cleaning up are Homura and Kyuubey's. (The other pages have relatively small and accurate speculah sections.) It's been a while since this conversation, but should we get started on setting up "Speculah proven wrong" sections? Momoism 18:00, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
In accordance with the guidelines used throughout this wiki, I changed the entry to "(...) and properly tag those proven false (...)". As discussed in other talkpages, all speculah are usually considered useful information, and should just be marked as debunked if relevant. Still have to make a template for these tags though. --Homerun-chan 21:24, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
First try at a theory categorization. I fear the headers will be too big/visible for the actual pages. Opinions? (it's still a work in progress, remember) --Homerun-chan 21:44, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

TV / NicoNico / BD Differences

I think it would be a good idea to make a page which shows the differences between the different versions of each episode. Maybe as a seperate page or on the page for each episode. Keksus 03:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

KFYatek is at it. See the page in his namespace (I don't have a link right now, will post it this evening) --Homerun-chan 07:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
User:KFYatek/Episode revisions. Also, feel free to contribute there if you feel like it. --KFYatek 07:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Documents Pages Need Re-organization

I'd like to see someone take on the two pages for Documents. They badly need it re-organized so it's easier for people to find things...plus, it's a popular section for fans. Right now, everything is just getting dumped in the Discussion page because no one knows what else to do. I really don't know how to do proper wiki formatting but I can assist on what sources came from where and when etc. on the majority of the stuff if someone is willing to look through and set up a proper structure. Also adding the benefit of having the information set up well will help with people doing research for analysis and speculah. I anticipate more interviews coming down the line where things in the anime will be explained. --randomanon 19:27, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

I have the reverse problem. I'm willing to restructure it when I have the time, but I'm too lazy to skim through the documents to sort them out. So maybe you can do the sorting, and I (or whoever wants to help of course) do the formatting?
Also, how about splitting that page in subpages? It's already pretty long right now, and it's not gonna get any shorter with all the stuff that's in the talkpage ... --Homerun-chan 20:01, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Urgh, well organization and formatting are not my strong points and I'm already far behind on my queue for the Madoka things I do in my spare time...I can't commit time right now to an overhaul, only assist with some of the research end of what came from where. Hopefully someone else will be willing to step up to the plate. I do see subpages would make sense, like one for all the tweets. --randomanon 21:14, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Regarding the (sub)pages, how about we split them like this:
  • Interviews with the script writer (Urobuchi)
  • Interviews with the staff (Shinbo, Inu Curry, Miyamoto, Ume-sensei, ...)
  • Interviews with the voice actresses
  • Tweets
("Tweets" getting its own page; the rest either staying as sections of the general page, or becoming subpages too)
Then of course we'd find a way to keep track of the source, the date/month when the article got published and a summary (as it is now). Probably order them chronologically, or by theme...
That way it shouldn't be too hard to organize if someone gives us the sources, and it doesn't seem to hard to find an article back either. --Homerun-chan 09:19, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Are there enough interviews with Urobuchi to make a separate page just for it? Aren't there any interviews featuring both Urobuchi and Shinbou, for example? The idea is good, but I think there are quite a few things that can go wrong. --KFYatek 11:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
I count 4 interviews involving Urobuchi on the page, didn't check the talkpage. If that's a problem (joint interview, etc.) we can still put him in the "staff" section/page. And I don't think there is any interview involving both the staff and the VA cast, so the problem shouldn't show up (and if it does, we can still link the article properly) --Homerun-chan 15:32, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
I am comfortable seeing it organized however someone sees fit...some suggestions off the top-of-my-head: I think it should be done by primarily by category over chronology now. Timing made sense during the anime run but now I think categories is more intuitive for someone to organize things and for users searching for something specific. It also helps since we're going to be getting document drops on the manga series now too and not just the anime. Another great thing to have some way of marking/labelling things that are raw scans that could use translation and/or verification, or to ID a source we're not sure about. Something like that would be good to see with each item. I also think maybe a breakout of a table where one can have the scan or source listed, then a translation in the next box etc. Something consistent would be better than the sort of the hodge-podge we have now of go to this link, view this scan, awkwardly long comment below an image, etc. Just some thoughts I had. FYI, having construction near my home that's disrupting my internet at odd times, so unsure of my reliability in the near future. --randomanon 18:20, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Having a table with the raw scan, a translation and additionnal information is what I had in mind too. I also agree with you about the organization in categories, however that's not that easy to do in practice since it's pretty subjective (see the fanworks and media talkpages). Either that or the ordering by interviewee should work though.
On the other hand, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "some way of marking/labelling things that are raw scans that could use translation and/or verification, or to ID a source we're not sure about". Could you develop? --Homerun-chan 20:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Basically it's a convenience for someone like me so I have some way of looking at all the items and seeing which ones still need 1) translations, 2) verification based on an unsure/unreliable translation, 3) an identified source. The way I have to do it now is click on everything and look through it. Some kind of visual cue (tag, color, something) would really save me time figuring out which needs what. Also for translators too--just direct them to a page and figure out which items could use translation rather than needing someone around directing them to each individual item.
As for categories, it's actually OK to do it by topic, in a variety of ways (rather than mostly by chronology like we've been doing), because we can have a column for cross-links. From a user perspective, they're probably looking for something by topic than where or when a source originated. That only makes sense if you've been very involved and know exactly what interview you're looking for...but most users are thinking about a topic/question like, "hey, what's the deal with the black cat?" and wouldn't know which month, who said what, etc. about it. The most user-friendly way, imo, is to list some common categories based on the info we have and what seems like the kinds of categories people might seek out. If there's a good structure put together with some standard categories, I can work to fine-tune categories and put in cross-links and so on. --randomanon 21:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I propose we try different things here, and when we feel like it's okay we'll move it to the main namespace. However, when making the page I realized how unfamiliar I am with these documents, to the point where it's been difficult for me to come up with categories, or even find an instance of files with missing source or mistrusted translation. tl;dr I fear I won't be of much help on this one, except for more technical/administrative stuff ... --Homerun-chan 15:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Cleaning up the list

There are some stuff that are old as fuck in this list, so maybe we should remove them?

Through the Looking-Glass theory from 2ch.
I for one don't even know what that is, but given that it sounds like speculah and dates back from early February I don't think it's really capital to have it ...
Update all romanization to Hepburn romanization.
Isn't it done yet?
Pages to update after the finale
Are they all up-to-date yet?
Put all we know about Walpurgis Night (be it the real thing, anime speculah, references from real-life works, and so on) on this page
Can we consider it done yet?

Also, reorganizing that list by order of priority... --Homerun-chan 20:05, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

1- Agreed. Got no clue what that is...
2- ...Can't comment this, I'm not the man to ask
3- As far as I can see, yes, even though they might be in the middle of a huge clusterfuck, it's there. Unless we consider tagging all speculahs as of the last episode info as part of this.
4- I believe so. --BrickBreak 21:17, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
About the romanizations
As far as I know the wiki, most romanizations are either in proper, "Wikipedia-style" Hepburn, ie. with long vowels as ā, ī, ū, ē, ō, eg. Shinbō, Kyōsuke, Kyūbē, Tōkyō, Ōsaka etc. - or in what I'll call "fansub-style Hepburn", with long vowels written directly as they are written in kana, eg. Shinbou, Kyousuke, Kyuubee, Toukyou, Oosaka etc. The only notable occurences of a different romanization system are: Kyubey's and Jubey's names - understandable, since it's sort of an official spelling; transliteration of Japanese written in runes - also understandable, since we use the spelling used by authors directly.
Moreover, from my observations, "fansub-style Hepburn" is used in normal text, while proper Hepburn is used with the "nihongo" template. So the situation is not so bad and quite consistent. I'm not advocating neither on switching to proper Hepburn everywhere, since macrons are hard as hell to type on most keyboard layouts (BTW: tip for Linux guys with US or very similar keyboards: try AltGr+} (or AltGr+Shift+] if you prefer) and then the letter), nor to "fansub-style Hepburn" everywhere, since the proper one look more professional and gives a familiar look and feel to all users of Wikipedia ;) So I personally think it can be considered done, but YMMV.
Through the Looking Glass
I don't have a clue what the "Through The Looking Glass" theory is; it's probably long obsolete, but it still would be nice to have it for the sake of completeness. I thought I can give a try translating it, digged into 2ch archives, found that it is discussed in thread 71, made some rough looks with Google Translate and... well, it got to me that it won't really be easy for me, because I just... haven't read anything from Carrol's Alice universe. Shame on me, I know.
So well, when someone feels like it, it can still be translated for the sake of completness, But I consider it such a low priority that yes, it shouldn't be prominently displayed on the wishlist.
The rest
They won't ever be really complete, but yes, they are complete enough to be removed from here, I think. Organizing the pages should be there, though.
--KFYatek 11:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Not sure about the character pages

I'm not really sure what pages need work. According to the guidelines, Sayaka's isn't really done properly, and the whole article is bullet-pointed information, but on the other hand it does say everything about her, albeit in a broken up and bare-bones way that has little in common with the given example of a well-written character article. Should this sort of page be rewritten in normal prose? This is something I'd happily do, but then I don't want to jump the gun on it. Then you have stub pages, such as Madoka's father. While this initially seems to need more work than a "Sayaka-type" page, there's not much more to be said about him anyway, and he's a pretty minor and low priority character in general. Would it be possible for someone who's worked on this Wiki longer, and has a clearer idea of what the finished products should be, to do a tier list of the various character pages in order or need for rewriting/additions? Bersayaka 23:50, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Namespace

Should this be moved outside of the main namespace? Basically like how the crappy fandom wiki has directly wiki-related pages' titles preceded by the wiki's name and a colon: https://madoka.fandom.com/wiki/The_Puella_Magi_Wiki:Rules EPF (talk) 23:45, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

I think a lot of it is obsolete, but it wouldn't be bad to clean it up and update it. I moved it as suggested. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 23:52, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Remaster

This conversation started on Talk:Glossary#Deleting the glossary.

Should we change the css for the tables? I'm pretty sure some User pages use the todo tables, so I'm worried that by changing them we're gonna ruin them. For how I think the rows should look, this is my current idea. Its kinda messy because of the fact that its a table inside of a table.

Status Task Priority Reviewed Task Created By/When Description
Waiting Do this and this High No TheresaFrog421 (talk) 18:11, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Description

- TheresaFrog421 (talk) 18:11, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

What do we think:
Status Task Priority Reviewed Created By/When Description
Waiting Do this and this High No Sweet Beanie (talk) 18:35, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Click to expand
Detailed description goes here. You can write multiple paragraphs, lists, or even embed another table.

Sweet Beanie (talk) 18:36, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Yeah it's a bit nicer than my version T-T. Should we make this a template? Because it could be done in css, but imo a template would be better, as it would do stuff like the status colors on its own (because the css does do it, but the editor still has to input the class in the cell, in the template it would just use a #switch to switch through looks based on what the cell says), same goes for Priority having a color. Also (because I didnt even consider this lol) the table being sortable means we should proabbly assign ids to statuses/priorities, like if the editor puts in High as the priority it would have an ID of 1, so that the table knows to sort it the highest. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 18:43, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Yeah I'm down with making this a template. That would also allow us to put or add more detail later on. ~ Sweet Beanie (talk) 18:45, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
We should probably migrate the already existing tasks that are under the new ones to the new tables, I think it should be fine to look who created which task and when, and then put that info into the new rows (I mean the old ones already have when, just not users). Also I think its fine to just delete the done ones. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 19:54, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Old See Also Stuff

I pulled these from the See Also section. Are either of them still reasonably relevant? The Google Doc link strikes me as probably obsolete, not sure on the summary list.

~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 23:40, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

The google doc could have been useful, but im SURE its way too outdated to use now, so no. Amaterasu quit the wiki, so unless we just take the list without permission and make it a part of the page, or we let people edit their page without permission- its useless in my eyes (And I dont think we should do either). - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 23:45, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
It's just a list of pages, I don't see a problem with copy-pasting it somewhere else if it seems useful. The question is whether it does seem useful. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 23:48, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Okay I looked at it and yeah, if it was just Magireco and Exedra stuff I wouldnt care as much but it even covers online and mobage. Putting it in a new section and hiding it (like with a collapsed table) should be okay. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 23:52, 5 June 2026 (UTC)

Individual Squabbles

This is for individual task issues, clarifications, etc. so that there's not one million headers each time. The individual tasks will be numbered and the replies can be below the number of the issue. ~ Sweet Beanie (talk) 07:24, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I think it's actually better to have a million headers, especially if you're going to add really long lists like the current one. It makes it easier to edit just the section pertaining to the topic you want to discuss. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 12:02, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Magia Record Enemy Renders

It seems there are no renders of many of the later, smaller non-magical enemies, like for example the Samurai enemies from Battle Shammannesses of Kamihama. I can manually rebuild them with the assets but it will take a bit and there's around 30 I need to get through. Additionally, the individual enemies with variants that technically have renders have them grouped together. For this example, I'll use the Echo Bird Variant Aqua Variant to convey this and that one has a render alongside its other 5 elemental variants. I can also build these manually, but I fail to see the usefulness of that. What do you think? Regardless of that, let's also use this section below to keep track of what is being worked on, when it's done and what else is missing, and so on. (To my knowledge the Wings of the Magius are all implemented, including the purple noose, but if not let me know I can make those too) ~ Sweet Beanie (talk) 07:24, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Yeah I meant that they should be built, but not manually, with the textures there's a plist and a json file, I know that the plist file helps but not always, I'm pretty confident that the json file is enough to script something that would arrange those textures into sprites. I've already tried but only with the plists, because my laptop isnt able to handle the jsons T-T
  • um...
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The reason for this is just equality for every sprite, cause we have that for Exedra, as it just gives us those sprites, but Record didnt. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 07:41, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
I was just gonna trace screenshots and position the assets. I didn't know there was a way to make them with code. Can you let me know how you did that so I can try to do the same thing? ~ Sweet Beanie (talk) 07:44, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
I did it on a game engine called Godot. The code just needed 2 files, the texture and the plist file of the enemy, the code would go through the plist file and use the info in it to cut up the texture and position the parts. It worked for the 2 echos I made, but the Coco is horrid. The reason the Coco didnt work, is because the plist doesnt specify which parts are specific to animation, it does sometimes give letters to the parts (like a, b) but those aren't very clear either (for ex: the Coco's sprite had parts from a to like f [might be wrong] but the only correct parts were b?? and not even all of them). The plist also sometimes just ignores positioning the parts correctly, though I think that maybe this has to do with the originalWidth and originalHeight it gives for parts (The echo's parts all have the same originalSizes BUT the Coco's parts all had different ones), I dont really know how to properly code that tho. That's why I'm sure the json comes into play, I havent really tried it out yet because my laptop can barely take uploading one to godot, so I can't imagine doing that for EVERY enemy. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 07:52, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
Rather than Godot, I suggest seeing if you can get something working with the Cocos2D game engine, which is also free from what I can tell. The reason is, I think those files were made in Cocos2D in the first place, so it might be a lot easier to get it to work there. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 12:01, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
I tried everything. I couldn't make it work with either program. Maybe I'm just stupid idk. If anyone can either drop a detailed tutorial or something, I'll do it the old fashioned way. ~ Sweet Beanie (talk) 15:39, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
I really think you shouldn't bother, there's way too many of them to make them manually, and I'm 100% sure that there is a way to do it with code. We can make the enemy pages without them and use the "Enemy_####_l.png" or "Chara_####_##_b.png" images as placeholders, but I do think they're still needed (especially with some enemies just not having the "Enemy" or "Chara" sprites). - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 19:20, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
I agree. There is 100% a way to do it in code, because the game itself needed to do it in order to display the enemies on the screen. We just need to figure out exactly how they did it and do the same thing. I did some searching and found this (also live on the web) which seems to have actually solved it, though I don't think we can just take screenshots from there (it has a fancy background, plus it only has magical girl sprites AFAICT, not enemies). There was also that other site (it was linked in another discussion somewhere on here) that appeared to have solved it and did have some of the enemies, so if someone could figure out how to run it locally, that might also work. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 19:44, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
While I don't have updates on doing it myself, while looking for where to find enemy lists for Let's See What You're Maid of (because the fandom Magireco wiki didnt have every enemy listed), I found a japanese website that has rendered icons, now I don't know if they have full renders, because the whole website is japanese and I can barely navigate it T-T. If they do have renders, I'm not sure how we go about asking for them. 'Alina is coming to town' page, they're collapsed but you can see all the christmas oscars have rendered icons. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 20:12, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
  • In Progress:
    • Iroha's Doppel Background (hers is special)
    • Light Doppel Background
    • Aqua Doppel Background
    • Forest Doppel Background
    • Flame Doppel Background
    • Void Doppel Background
    • Plain Knight Familiar
    • Black and Gold Knight Familiar
    • Isabeau's Minion Girl (Spear 1)
    • Isabeau's Minion Girl (Axe)
    • Isabeau's Minion Girl (Spear 2)
    • Promised Blood Goon (Fist 1)
    • Promised Blood Goon (Fist 2)
    • Promised Blood Goon (Fist 3)
    • Promised Blood Goon (Chainsaw 1)
    • Promised Blood Goon (Chainsaw 12)
    • Tokime Tribe Girl (Fan 1)
    • Tokime Tribe Girl (Fan 2)
    • Tokime Tribe Girl (Fan 3)
    • Tokime Tribe Girl (Staff 1)
    • Tokime Tribe Girl (Staff 2)
    • Neo Magius Girl (Book 1)
    • Neo Magius Girl (Book 2)
    • Neo Magius Girl (Book 3)
    • Neo Magius Girl (Bell 1)
    • Neo Magius Girl (Bell 2)
    • Shepherd Meguca (Blue)
    • Shepherd Meguca (Pink)
    • Red Samurai
    • Blue Samurai
    • Red Roman
    • Plain Viking
    • Leather Viking
    • Mongol Soldier
    • Ancient Japanese Tribesmen (Amaryllis' story doesn't have human enemies I guess)
  • Done:
    • Dark Doppel Background
    • WOTU Assets have been already compiled. That's also the only existing photo of the Universe available.

MagiReco Fandom Migration

Migrate information and images from the Magia Record Fandom wiki: Is this outdated? Apart from game info that I would want to collect so that the enemy pages link in the future, I can't really think of anything to look for there? If there is, add it in the description. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 14:38, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

I've gotten word that the names of the Kimochi were early translations that this wiki kept but since the Kimochi don't have proper translations, we can just keep these until then. Otherwise idk but it's worth checking out regardless. ~ Sweet Beanie (talk) 15:39, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
I think there's probably quite a lot. Just off the top of my head, I can think of their event pages (which contain detailed information about the actual quests in the event and item drops), and their unit pages (which have several details that ours miss, such as upgrade materials). Although you could argue that much of this doesn't matter since the game is EOS, I think it's fair to preserve it regardless (especially since there's been enough work to archive the game that a free version could one day become available). I think they also have more detailed information on when events ran and re-ran. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 18:22, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
I definitely agree that the event pages need more info, I mean compare our Exedra event pages with the Record ones. Also imo we should rename them to Magia Record Event - Title like the current Exedra event titles. I also think we should make more detailed gameplay pages like we did for Exedra. I don't know much about what could be added to the unit pages, but I was thinking about adding enemies to them, because I know that enemies appear as parts of their side stories and I think either Boxwood or Raspberry is unique to those side story quests. Also maybe taking the story parts of the page out might be good? Idk though. - TheresaFrog421 (talk) 19:36, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
I'd say that this wiki should skew more towards story than mechanics, so we definitely don't want to remove the magical girl side stories. But, if you have a better place to put them than the unit page, then by all means. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 19:46, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
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