Talk:Magia Record Characters

If you guys got access to the art for new characters and want them to have those borders I made for the others, contact and send it to me (preferably the original image full-sized). -- The Witch's House 04:57, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

I uploaded the art for the new characters on their pages (I know the links are red still for the moment, but trust me the pages are there for the links), I just waited for you to make the icons :3Sondenise 07:38, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Would like to have the transparent character images opposed to the ones with a background please. -- The Witch's House 03:14, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Can we add the borders to the images of Iroha, Yachiyo, Tsuruno, Felicia, and Sana? Kraftholo (talk) 15:56, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Now that the game is over, I'm wondering why all of the Ume Aoki designed characters got a memoria with the flowery background with the exception of Mami, Felicia, Momoko, Kaede, and Rena. Were they released and just not uploaded? It seems strange that Asuka got one when she barely played a role in the main story.

Someone has uploaded the new artbook online to download. It includes the characters' profiles. Is anyone willing to take a crack at translating those? It includes info like the girls' abilities. Kraftholo (talk) 15:56, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

I have the book coming in the mail and I downloaded the scans. I was able to translate the abilities and added where they were born in. I'll probably upload the pages that pertain to each girl. Whether or not I have the time to translate (albeit poorly) the character pages is something else. Sondenise (talk) 01:09, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Why does this page lack a table of contents? How do I re-add it? -- McKnight 08:19, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Iirc, the main Characters page is just a composite of various other pages on the wiki. If you add a table of contents to this page, it'll show up in that main characters page as well. Sondenise (talk) 00:42, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

If that's the sole concern, it can be worked around as my latest edit demonstrates. (Feel free to undo it if you don't like it, though.) ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 04:12, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

What is the criteria that makes someone a "Main Story Character" rather than a "Side Story Character"? Some of the characters in the side story section would probably be considered main story. Speedanon (talk) 21:20, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

It's Character ID. Generally speaking (with the exception of Asuka), "Main Characters" have an ID number that starts 1xxxx whereas "Side Story" characters have an ID number that goes 3xxx. Asuka has a 1xxx ID but was relegated to Side story status due to her involvement (theorized to have originally had a larger part and to have originally been a 4* re: her overelaborate transformation sequence and the fact she was designed by Aoki). Sondenise (talk) 01:10, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Cleopatra

Seems like Cleopatra will be added to Magia Record soon. Should we wait until she releases to add her? PureChaos (talk) 09:31 27 February 2023 (EST)

Judging by the one teaser image of the Alexandria/Egypt event I saw, the character in question doesn't look like the Cleopatra seen at the end of the original series. We'd have to wait for some kind of confirmation on whether that IS Cleopatra and she's just received a redesign, or another character entirely. --Garr9988 (talk) 00:18, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Sure enough, her actual name is Ebony. SuzuneMU (talk) 09:45, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Even if she is, we don't know what name she'll have. We'll get more details when her banner is announced two days before the Alexandria Singularity's release. Be patient. SuzuneMU (talk) 06:39, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Doppel Summoning lines

I was wondering, if it was ok if i could add the doppel summoning lines of every magi in their designated slot, where their doppel description is CafeAuBandage (talk) 03:18, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

New page

Could someone make a new page for the two newest historian magis? The green one is Gunhild And the red one is Olga CafeAuBandage (talk) 20:54, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

The current pages have it the other way around. Are we sure about which one is which? PureChaos (talk) 08:03 23 March 2023 (EST)

The files of the game for their debut images there's three labeled as Olga_Gunhild_Silhouette, with both of them shadowed Then a second with Olga_Gunhild_Color, with only the green one coloured Then finally, Olga_Color, with both of them coloured CafeAuBandage (talk) 20:47, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

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going to plop these here until we can get a steady name for the new meguca (is it just Toyo?) Sondenise (talk) 15:19, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

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It does seem to be Toyo, especially given that unlike previous Puella Historia girls, she is based off a real person: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyo_(queen)

The file's destination also mentions the appropriate time period, and this girl mentions queen Himiko in her dialogue. There's a chance that they'll use the other version of the name (Iyo), but given the filename has her as Toyo, it's safe imo to assume she's gonna be Toyo EPF (talk) 07:31, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Want me to make it then? I'd be more than happy to (Under the name Toyo, of course). PureChaos (talk) 20:31, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Just FYI, but I started Toyo's page on my page. When she releases, feel free to copy+paste mine into her page. PureChaos (talk) 12:48, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

I really don't think there's any reason to do that over just creating the page, but if there is some reason not to just create the page, it's probably better to created it as User:PureChaos/Toyo rather than dumping it directly on User:PureChaos. Then it just needs to be moved when ready. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 23:47, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

I'm such an idiot. I get hyper fixated on doing one thing and I forget other possibilities. I will start her page as it seems she will be added soon. PureChaos (talk) 01:44, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Special Variants?

If it is decided that Oriko (Final ver.) is a special variant, then I will move Isabeau (Witch ver.) and Tart (Final ver.) to the Special Variants section as well. I just have one problem. How is this section sorted? PureChaos (talk) 11:58, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

The problem as I see it are that we have a section for characters from other media (like the spin off series and the OG series), but then we have the swimsuit and other alt units for the OG series listed under special variants (which is fine). Is Final Tart a special variant considering she actually shows up in the manga? Is white Kazumi a variant considering she also shows up in the manga? Of all the spin off units, only Final Oriko and Isabeau meguca version don't show up in their respective mangas. So I suggest we either keep one section for spinoff manga characters and then make another section for OG series variants and leave the special variants section to MagiReco original characters, or we bumps down Isabeau meguca and Final Oriko while leaving Final Tart and white Kazumi where they are. Sondenise (talk) 17:24, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Side note: they were originally sorted by ID, but then we started lumping them into first two rows OG characters, rumor infused characters, holiday characters as they show up.If we break out the OG characters into their own space, then we can sort the remaining special variants by ID number the way we do the others Sondenise (talk) 17:24, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I personally think there is no value in sorting them by ID. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 17:47, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Thats... actually a good sollution. I would not have thought of separating them. PureChaos (talk) 19:07, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

By the way, it looks like final Oriko was moved back into the main "spin-off characters" section. What's the logic on that? Was it an error? Or did you just decide there wasn't any point in having a separate "special variants" section just for Oriko and Isabeau? They could've gone in the same section as the special Holy Quintet versions though. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 23:59, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Mostly I didn't see a point in having a separate section for Oriko and Isabeau since it's unlikely we'll get more "variants" of established manga characters (unlike the Holy Quintet, who are much more likely to get more future variants). Sondenise (talk) 02:59, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

As of right now, there are four special variants in the "spinoff" section: 4004 (Oriko final), 4014 (Kazumi human), 4028 (Tart final), and 4121 (Isabeau witch). This might be copium but I'm fully convinced they'll be eventually joined by a fifth, a hypothetical *4038 for Suzune final, so since it would take up an entire row if so I do feel like there is merit to having the separate section. I'll defer to your judgement though.

Cleanup: 7XXX/8XXX Characters from Other Media

While no distinction is made in terms of ID namespace between NPCs original to Magia Record and NPCs from, for instance, Tart Magica, I believe that it would make the page considerably cleaner if the decision was made.

This raises a closely related question, though: What are we doing about the Flamel family, Yoriko, etc. -- characters who technically originate from a prior series, but did not actually appear until Magia Record? SuzuneMU (talk) 15:57, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I don't think Yoriko was ever even hinted at in Suzune Magia? So it seems strange to argue that she originates from there. Nicholas also didn't appear in Tart Magica as far as I'm aware, though his existence is implied by Pernelle since he's a historical character, so I think it'd make sense to treat him as a Tart Magica character. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 17:54, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Can I ask? Why is Asuka in the main character slot for Arc 1? shouldn't she bee with the side characters?

That's where I had her originally but when we reshuffled the magireco character page she ended up with the arc 1 main characters. the reason is her id number: she has an id number reserved for a main character, she's designed by Ume Aoki, fancy henshin and fancy magia, and she has a flowerfield memoria. She should have been a main character but then they rewrote the story and she got demoted to side character status. However, we now sort the characters almost purely by id. Sondenise (talk) 01:56, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Scene 0

Would anyone object if I separated the Scene 0 characters and added them to their own category in this page? Amaterasu (talk) 13:49, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Minor Characters

I have prepared all the icons for the minor characters, but am unable to upload the icons from my account. If there's a way to send them to someone to upload, please let me know. Sweet Beanie

If your account is too young, you will need to wait before uploading an image. I think the wait time is one week? Amaterasu (talk) 17:14, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

In 2 days, you should be able to upload the photos. Amaterasu (talk) 18:53, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Just noting that the reason it still doesn't work is because the uploaded extensions are PNG and the linked-to extensions are png. I'll let you decide whether to edit the page to PNG or move the uploaded images to be png. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 02:21, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Are we going to keep cluttering up the side characters list with all the faceless NPCs that are magical girls? I don't think it makes sense unless they have a proper live2D and are playable (Yuu is of course going to become playable and plays a major part in several events). I'd rather keep the faceless NPCs with ID numbers in the higher 8xxx range in the "side characters from magia record" section rather than have them clutter up the side characters list. Same for Lame, Fleche, and Fauchard. If you really want, I'd move them to "Spin-off series based characters" if you don't want them with the other faceless NPCs. Part of it also is almost all of them don't even have their own proper pages, just a short listing on the collective minor characters page. Sondenise (talk) 15:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

I was just moving them because Inui Itsumi was moved to Side Characters. I also see why it would clutter up the Side Characters page, though. I'll move them back. Amaterasu (talk) 15:43, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

I only moved Inui Itsumi up there because she's a magical girl _and_ has a named witch. Thus, for consistency of formatting, I thought it made sense for her to be listed with the regular magical girls, rather than with the generic mostly normal people. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 13:06, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Tokime Clan

If we have some MG listen in Arc 2 important characters because of their association with a certain group, I'll also move Ryoko Natsu and Chika Aoba into the A2I. Amaterasu (talk) 13:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm also removing the ID specification from A1 and A2 characters because the new sorting nullifies it. Amaterasu (talk) 13:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

I cant figure out for to center the subtext for Arc 2. I hesitate to do anything else in case I f### it up. Amaterasu (talk) 13:23, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

At this point we might as well remove the ID specifications for all the tables since we're not grouping them 100% by ID anymore anyways...Sondenise (talk) 14:12, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Done. I also wonder if we should move Michiru, Saki and Niko to SCFOM bc they aren't playable. Amaterasu (talk) 14:52, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Should we also move Asuka to side character category? Sweet Beanie (talk) 01:04, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

I personally feel we should. We should also move Kagari down since she's also nonplayable. Sondenise (talk) 03:03, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Minor Characters

Do we really need to show and create a table for all of the minor characters and anime minor characters? Most if not all of them simply point to their entry on the collective minor characters page and most of those are a paragraph at best. it just seems like a lot of unnecessary clutter. Sondenise (talk) 00:25, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't really mind one way or the other. It's sort of nice to have, but it's also not really necessary? ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 04:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

End of Game Doppels

Seeing as the game ends on June. I changed the characters who have "unreleased" doppels. to just No doppels Since its unlikely that we will get official doppel art (unless the artist sof the characters post drafts and there ideas. So they basically have No official doppels CafeAuBandage (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Kei

I think the icon being used for Kei here is actually intended to represent the magical girl who turned into Paola, rather than Kei. This is perhaps somewhat speculative, but I think it's at least clear that whatever the team encountered in The Ribbon at the Brink Where the Waves Break wasn't just Kei alone – there was something there speaking in Chinese, which I believe was probably intended to be either a remnant of Paola's consciousness or an unknown rumour. ~ Celtic Minstrel (talk) 19:45, 30 August 2024 (UTC)